Interesting take and a logical one to follow. Kinda the same thing as CV19 being part of someone's death certificate. I mean, if we are going to be specific about cause of death, might as well lay it all out there.
No games until 2021
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Right now numbers mean nothing and are not credible. They are being manipulated, omitted to support agendas on both sides. Also likely that people just don't know what they are doing.
AZ quietly reported an oops last week - over 2500 hospitalization cases had been misreported by one healthcare system. They were in fact admitted into the hospital but never hospitalized. Similar mistakes have occurred over testing and capturing accurate data on death certificates. This is just one healthcare system of several in the state. Investigations ongoing. Makes you wonder what other clerical mistakes have occurred. More to follow I'm sure.
I just found the “prove a link between X and Y” discussion to be boring. It’s a weak argument, and that kind of proof requires a ton of data that no one here has or is qualified to assess. So I figured it was time to replace it with a better one.
So the only thing that matters to you is "death" rate and FOX news is your source of information? lol
We can’t do anything so why even try?
MacDre
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An educational opportunity for kids to explore and try something that they would not have the opportunity to explore if playing club soccer and attending a brick and mortar school.
I also think many kids nowadays are over indulged and could benefit from a little adversity and learning how to push forward. Pain is weakness leaving the body...right?
Could you reconcile your position about “Covid” and the teachers union with the recent shut down in Madrid, Spain please? Specifically, what impact did the teachers union have on the recent shutdown in Madrid?
MSK357
GOLD
why would i talk about the teachers union in spain? im talking about the teachers unions here in california, where they say its too dangerous for teachers to be in the classroom with students yet the same classrooms are being used for daycare with daycare teachers to help with distance learning for $205 a week per kid.
Lot's of "mistakes" I hear and were all human and bound to a make mistake or two or three even. We will need to wait until later to find out what is really going on with all those numbers. The game of numbers and how folks use numbers to scare the sh*t out of you. Math my ass!!!!
MacDre
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No I can’t. The reason being is that they are kids and not guinea pigs. In order to do what’s in the best interest of the kids we have to proceed with caution. I am actually proud that we don’t have those stats at this juncture.
Now is the time for kids to focus on individual skills. They can work on their strength, conditioning, technique, and the MENTAL ASPECT of the game now. When play returns the kids will hit the ground running with way more mental tenacity and be better teammates.
MSK357
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Not much opportunity to explore when parents cant afford supervision for their kids while they are at work. Please tell me how a family where both parents work and who cant afford $205 a week for daycare can provide an additional opportunity to explore without a brick and mortar school that tax dollars already pay for?
MacDre
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$205 a week seems like it would be cost prohibitive for many so I would suspect that the daycare is sparsely attended and not densely populated like a public school. Not an apple’s to apple’s comparison pal.
MSK357
GOLD
hey pal, classrooms dont have to be densely populated either. Hybrid learning where half the students are occupying the room in the morning and the other half in the afternoon have already been worked out before school even started. instead our state mandated no in person learning while daycare has never stopped. Now schools are getting paid for daycare utilizing these "empty" classrooms. But dont take my word for it, heres a link:
L.A. schools are closed — but there are loopholes for those with money
K-12 schools in Los Angeles are not allowed to be open at the moment. Yet many schools have reopened anyway, either by outsourcing their facilities to established providers like the Y, or by rebranding as day camps, which are license-exempt and virtually unregulated in California.
www.latimes.com
MacDre
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I get it but I don’t. I come from an era where kids played outside unsupervised. I got my first kiss playing “house.” Kids can skate, bike, play tag, jump rope, climb trees, doorbell ditch, hopscotch, go hiking, lemonade stand, volunteer at old folks home etc.
Plenty of low to no cost activities available.
Your very use of the the phrase "hide in the basement" shows a base disrespect for others decisions. Yes, you should show more respect for others decisions. As a family we personally only know one family friend who has died from covid. It has been devastating for everyone who knew this beautiful women. By the way she had no underlying condition, was skinny, never smoked, worked out at a gym when they were open, and walked five miles a day. She fought 43 days to stay alive. At first her symptoms were very mild then on day 7 or 8 she suddenly got worse and was rushed to the hospital. She was one of the lucky ones to get Remdesivir. Had a few days where she seemed to improve but started crashing again and was put on a ventilator. She fought for weeks but lost the battle. No one else in her family had covid. She was only 59!! Let that sink in. Statistically for her, the death rate wasn't .005% it was 100%. Whatever your position on covid, RESPECT others decision instead of mocking them, you don't know what they have gone through.
Another word for Isolation Dre. This is the big "Mental Aspect" your missing to see and seem to not understand. If kid has only one parent ((a bastard child and lucky to be alive, but was not well protected before born from some and not really cared for from Elites afterwards because their a little bastard anyways)), then most likely their all alone all day and then after individual skills training, their all alone again. Do you know how many kids have only one parent and that parent works in socal?
Death Rate...yah, pretty much, that and hospitalizations. Why fret about case rates if it doesn’t correlate?
No....those are CDC’s published numbers (see the footnote in the image), just happen to be a screen grab from Fox News. I hate most media news outlets.....mainly Fox and CNN are the worst. (Wrong yet again...). It does however answer the question that was asked does it not?
MSK357
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times are not the same bro. I used to do that do, but most of my day was still at school during the day. I had adult supervision during the day that tax dollars paid for. Those tax dollars arent covering what it used to during this pandemic. whether we like it or not, public school is daycare for many working class families. Now kids are at home alone unsupervised for most of the day. I doubt you would let your daughter spend most of her day unsupervised outdoors like you did back in the day. especially in rougher neighborhoods.
I came from a similar generation. My parents biggest issue was getting me to come home or stay inside.
How many teenagers climb trees, build lemonade stands, etc? Can’t volunteer at old folks homes right now (both my kids are acting Presidents of their youth volunteer groups) due to the restrictions.
Your points are valid, but can not be extrapolated across all age groups. Teenagers have different interests that are far more socially based.
Sheriff Joe
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No you shouldn’t.
Tough to isolate just one factor. Often times mental illness is an underlying factor and the lockdowns just push over the edge. But it's the same with COVID deaths...someone has a heart condition, catches COVID and now it's a COVID death.
But I do have any anecdote (yeah yeah yeah....anecdote is not data). My niece. Happy go lucky girl...very high extrovert....typical teen angst but nothing out of the ordinary before lockdowns. Not one of the A-crew populars, but definitely on the B-crew. Her parents were really scared of the virus because of her older sister, who is vulnerable. Kid went into a tail spin with no school and then going from going out with friends every evening to nothing. She hates her sister so there's no company there, and is at the age where she doesn't like hanging with her parents either. Attempted suicide by taking her sister's pills over the summer. The suicide note said she couldn't stand the isolation anymore. And yes, they had tried to get her help,but like my son, she wasn't a good candidate for zoom therapy, particularly with a therapist she had no in person face to face in the before time. She lived, got medicated, but the parents recognized it as a cry for help. Still has issues but was at a sleep over bday party with 10 other girls on the weekend and seems to have at least turned around from her darkest hour.