CIF- cant play club and high school at same time

If HS is allowed to play games so is club. Clubs are not stopping for High School season. HS will either have to change their rule or make kids choose. But, this is not a club issue. It was created by CIF.
 
outside! said:
It is possible to play college soccer without playing club. Christina Burkenroad from Mission Bay HS went on to play D1 on the recommendation of her HS coach. It is not common, but college coaches will take talent anywhere they can find it. ID camps can be a way to get noticed by a coach.
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Good to hear about ID camps. My DD is on a pretty solid NPL team, I just don't ever see her moving to ECNL but she'd love to play in college. We'd never push her to go ECNL as she really loves her team and coach, and we feel that's important.
 
timbuck said:
What if the club teams just have "under-cover scrimmages" during the high school season? Seems to work out these past few months.
No club logo. Coach hiding under a tree in a hoodie and sunglasses.
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If the player(s) have time to practice or participate in two cohorts club not going care.

If someone tested positive and the contact tracing kicks in could get ugly for a HS kid that's latter found to be double dipping so to speak.

Playing games or paid scrimmages with refs could get messy with CIF unless they change the concurrent play rule, everyone has a camera and video nowadays so going low key in certain areas can be difficult.
 
timbuck said:
What if the club teams just have "under-cover scrimmages" during the high school season? Seems to work out these past few months.
No club logo. Coach hiding under a tree in a hoodie and sunglasses.
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haha, is that what you are doing? :)
 
outside! said:
When she was younger, she played club. During her high school years the family had economic problems. She was living in a car for part of high school. She is a great athlete.
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I don't know of any club who would turn away a player like this due to a financial issue.
 
timbuck said:
What if the club teams just have "under-cover scrimmages" during the high school season? Seems to work out these past few months.
No club logo. Coach hiding under a tree in a hoodie and sunglasses.
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If you get caught, you will get royally, royally fucked. Big big consequences. This isn't the same as practicing-during-COVID. A coach willing to risk the penalties of this isn't a coach your kids want to play for.
 
notintheface said:
If you get caught, you will get royally, royally fucked. Big big consequences. This isn't the same as practicing-during-COVID. A coach willing to risk the penalties of this isn't a coach your kids want to play for.
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Caught by whom? What are some of these “Big big consequences” you speak of?

FYI......There are college coaches attending “scrimmages” in SD.
 
notintheface said:
If you get caught, you will get royally, royally fucked. Big big consequences. This isn't the same as practicing-during-COVID. A coach willing to risk the penalties of this isn't a coach your kids want to play for.
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The HS would get in trouble. Not the club. And I think specifically the HS player would get in trouble- No longer allowed to participate (not sure if remainder of season or a few game suspension). And the HS team would likely have to forfeit any games that an ineligible player participated in.
If the HS coach knowingly allowed a player to play a HS game will also participating in a club game, that HS coach probably gets in trouble too.

Lots of HS sports have club coaches. Our school has the volleyball team run by a local volleyball club. Our soccer (girls) is an ex-club coach. I think our boys soccer program is run by a club coach. Pretty sure the other schools in our district have similar set ups.
 
Why would club coaches need to do hidden scrimmages during HS season? If HS is allowed to play games, club teams will be able to also. Kids will have to choose if HS keeps this rule in place.
 
socalkdg said:
If we even make it to the tier needed for soccer, which is a big if, then club soccer will finally be allowed tourneys, spring leagues, and club teams will finally be able to play games on weekends. Considering most clubs have been going half speed, do you think any of them want their players gone for 3 months for High School after the year that they have had?

Mine is going to run track. First tier back, and can do it and club soccer.
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The CIF rule press release said they’re doing this because the CDPH said you can’t be participating in more than one team at a time. So that’s about “cohorting for safety”, not the standard completion rule. If that’s right, the rule would Yee that you can’t be participating on any other team in any other sport (club or HS) when you’re on a HS team. So that press release about the rule either totally wrong as to why this did that or they adopted a rule that doesn’t even do what they want. Not to mention it wouldn’t make sense once you start competing in HS because by definition you’re leaving your stable cohort when you compete anyway. None of this makes sense. Is the rule they just adopted actually just reimplementing the old rule about competing in the same sport at the same time or is it something new tans broader that would prohibit kids from playing any second sport anywhere?
 
Publius said:
The CIF rule press release said they’re doing this because the CDPH said you can’t be participating in more than one team at a time. So that’s about “cohorting for safety”, not the standard completion rule. If that’s right, the rule would Yee that you can’t be participating on any other team in any other sport (club or HS) when you’re on a HS team. So that press release about the rule either totally wrong as to why this did that or they adopted a rule that doesn’t even do what they want. Not to mention it wouldn’t make sense once you start competing in HS because by definition you’re leaving your stable cohort when you compete anyway. None of this makes sense. Is the rule they just adopted actually just reimplementing the old rule about competing in the same sport at the same time or is it something new tans broader that would prohibit kids from playing any second sport anywhere?
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With at least a few less typos this time:
The CIF rule press release said they’re doing this because the CDPH said you can’t participate in more than one team at a time. So that’s about “cohorting for safety”, not the standard competition rule. If that’s right, the rule should say that you can’t participate on any other team in any other sport (club or HS) when you’re on a HS team. So that press release about the reason for the rule is either totally wrong as to why they adopted it or they adopted a rule that doesn’t even do what they want. Not to mention it wouldn’t make sense once you start competing in HS because by definition you’re leaving your stable cohort when you compete anyway. None of this makes sense. Is the rule they just adopted actually just reimplementing the old rule about competing in the same sport at the same time or is it something new and broader that would prohibit kids from playing any second sport anywhere?
 
If the goal is to minimize cross-team transmission, the rule will end up applying to any player participating on a second team. Even if CIF initially got the details wrong, DPH will help them fix it.
 
Publius said:
With at least a few less typos this time:
The CIF rule press release said they’re doing this because the CDPH said you can’t participate in more than one team at a time. So that’s about “cohorting for safety”, not the standard competition rule. If that’s right, the rule should say that you can’t participate on any other team in any other sport (club or HS) when you’re on a HS team. So that press release about the reason for the rule is either totally wrong as to why they adopted it or they adopted a rule that doesn’t even do what they want. Not to mention it wouldn’t make sense once you start competing in HS because by definition you’re leaving your stable cohort when you compete anyway. None of this makes sense. Is the rule they just adopted actually just reimplementing the old rule about competing in the same sport at the same time or is it something new and broader that would prohibit kids from playing any second sport anywhere?
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That’s correct - it prohibits you from practicing or playing any other sport while you’re playing HS.
 
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