No games until 2021

I will only say this. I tried to get DG to do dance and ballet. Hell no!!! Then we tried bike riding but she fell and hated it. Hiking was boring. I got her into soccer and it connected at 5. At 7, I tried to get her to tryout softball at it was one big, "no." Hoops? "No." All she ever wants to do is play soccer, go to school, hangout and play with her friends. She does like surfing but that is for Jah and more for love of mother earth. No school open so this all sucks and I already prepped her for online next two years and she is ok with that as long as they can play sports. I told her probably not for two years. In two years when college opens up in California maybe she can get those cleats back on. Thanks a lot for nothing. Take a kids two years away. Wow!!! Sellfish little brat she is, only wants to play soccer in college like other men so she can get a discount or get in for free because she worked her ass off, unlike the ladies husband who helped "well to do" folks get in with a fake sport.
My kid loves soccer too but unfortunately there’s COVID. So, now my kid is learning to Improvise, Adapt, & Overcome.
 
If you as a parent thinks that pro/rel and win at all costs is a bad philosophy to instill on children playing U9 you are in your absolute right to think so. But if that’s your take then leagues like CSL or SCDSL are NOT for you
In my opinion the SCDSL philosophy sucks where coaches can select (through petition supposedly) which flight they’re going to play in.

If you are teaching "win at all costs" then you are part of the problem. Period.

You are the coach who abuses the substitution rule to kill 30 seconds on every throw-in when they're up by a goal.

You are the coach who screams at their defenders to kick the ball as hard as they can out of bounds just to make another kid chase the ball, just to kill time.

You are the coach whose midfielders don't learn anything about possession because your entire strategy is to have the centerback kick the ball as hard as he or she can up to your attackers.

You are the coach whose kids start getting knee and ankle injuries at age 11 because they've been abused for the past 3 years.

You are the coach teaching 8-year-olds to fall in the box in order to embellish in a meaningless league game.

There is absolutely nothing good that kids can learn by teaching them how to win at any cost.

That whole status thing with parents actually exists and sometimes it can even trickle down to their kids.

Absolutely it exists. Absolutely. Pro/rel doesn't solve this-- it makes it 100x worse. Parents on a team that came in third place in Silver and which normally would be good enough to compete in Silver Elite may abandon their team in order to go status hunting, just because the team can't move up. This is why it's not a big deal for a flight 2 SCDSL team to move up to flight 1, because it is based on how competitive the coach feels the team can be. If a coach has a team that goes 0-14 in league play and doesn't move down a flight, that's on them.
 
My kid loves soccer too but unfortunately there’s COVID. So, now my kid is learning to Improvise, Adapt, & Overcome.

Check it out all.

While all the rest of you spend your time whining about how you can’t go back to living in a world that no longer exists, others see the opportunity and are blowing by your kids, who you are teaching to feel sorry for themselves.
 
Check it out all.

While all the rest of you spend your time whining about how you can’t go back to living in a world that no longer exists, others see the opportunity and are blowing by your kids, who you are teaching to feel sorry for themselves.
Not me, I've taken this opportunity to teach my kids how to be "woke". We've eliminated the use of gender pronouns and my wife and I now say we take our coffee plain or without cream.
 
Youth soccer has been unfairly classified as a higher risk in CA than it should or vs many other places and that needs to be changed.

The house if cards that is youth club soccer has been exposed for what it is. For the most part a business disguised as a nonprofit that uses all kinds and manner of marketing to convince parents to pay the big $$.

What really needs to happen is reducing the costs and open up youth sports to a broader audience where $$ are not the override factor on who really participates.


Yeah that articles has some hits and misses but the topic is relative. Youth Soccer is segregated whether we like it or not, economically at least and that needs to change.

Time for change, I not sure the election is going to have some miraculous enlightening that's all sudden going to change youth sports guidance in California.

Making the best of whatever situations come up I've always tried to teach my kids and in the long run I think that and diversity has kept them motivated, training, happy and moving forward.
 
If you are teaching "win at all costs" then you are part of the problem. Period.

You are the coach who abuses the substitution rule to kill 30 seconds on every throw-in when they're up by a goal.

You are the coach who screams at their defenders to kick the ball as hard as they can out of bounds just to make another kid chase the ball, just to kill time.

You are the coach whose midfielders don't learn anything about possession because your entire strategy is to have the centerback kick the ball as hard as he or she can up to your attackers.

You are the coach whose kids start getting knee and ankle injuries at age 11 because they've been abused for the past 3 years.

You are the coach teaching 8-year-olds to fall in the box in order to embellish in a meaningless league game.

There is absolutely nothing good that kids can learn by teaching them how to win at any cost.



Absolutely it exists. Absolutely. Pro/rel doesn't solve this-- it makes it 100x worse. Parents on a team that came in third place in Silver and which normally would be good enough to compete in Silver Elite may abandon their team in order to go status hunting, just because the team can't move up. This is why it's not a big deal for a flight 2 SCDSL team to move up to flight 1, because it is based on how competitive the coach feels the team can be. If a coach has a team that goes 0-14 in league play and doesn't move down a flight, that's on them.
You made an assumption about the type of coach I am because I said I favor pro/rel and that winning should matter lol I genuinely had a laugh. Kids all over the world are exposed to those kind of environments at young ages and look at how they progress. Look at Dominic Calvert-Lewin for example. Someone who was cut at the age of 9 is now the joint leading PL goalscorer for the time being. The top players will always gravitate towards the top and pro/rel helps function this. If parents want to leave a club in search of status like you said then they’re in their right to do so. Just because they leave to go to a higher tier level club doesn’t mean they’ll make the team. It might seem unethical for parents to take their child away from a team but the way a lot of clubs are ran are unethical anyways. Not having pro/rel is a big factor in why small neighborhood clubs don’t exist anymore and sell out to be a chapter/affiliate of FC Golden State, Pateadores, Strikers, or any of the 5 surf teams. Some would rather be another clubs Flight 1 or Discovery team rather than using their own identity and work their way up.
My first ever soccer team was a recreation center team and for 2 years we never lost until I was 11 and lost a game in a Cal South league. I was now motivated to play and train harder because I now know there are players better than me. I never wanted to go to a gold team, I was fine being in my silver team and learning and I swear to God we would sometimes beat the Gold teams whenever we’d play them. Listen to the kids they probably want this.
 
Youth soccer has be classified as a higher risk in CA vs many other places and that needs to be changed.

The house if cards that is youth club soccer has been exposed for what it is. For the most part a business disguised as a nonprofit that uses all kinds and manner of marketing to convince parents to pay the big $$.

What really needs to happen is reducing the costs and open up youth sports to a broader audience where $$ are not the override factor on who really participates.


Yeah that articles has some hits and misses but the topic is relative. Youth Soccer is segregated whether we like it or not, economically at least and that needs to change.

Time for change, I not sure the election is going to have some miraculous enlightening that's all sudden going to change youth sports guidance in California.

Making the best of whatever situations come up I've always tried to teach my kids and in the long run I think that and diversity has kept them motivated, training, happy and moving forward.

Yes! Thank you for finally exposing these fat cat soccer moguls for what they are. They’re raking in money hand over fist and it’s so unfair! We need to stop them in their tracks by socializing youth soccer!
 
What really needs to happen is reducing the costs and open up youth sports to a broader audience where $$ are not the override factor on who really participates.
and if you do this, how those Blues and West Coast coaches make any money?
 
Yes! Thank you for finally exposing these fat cat soccer moguls for what they are. They’re raking in money hand over fist and it’s so unfair! We need to stop them in their tracks by socializing youth soccer!
This is something I can get behind. Soccer socialism. We may have more things in common than we care to admit. I've even taken a liking to the word "woke". It's won me more than one argument with my wanna be woke offspring.
 
The risk is the unknown. What’s the benefit of rushing back to soccer? Again, why can’t kids ride bike, skateboards, surf etc for physical activity?

I understand the rush back to soccer from the coaches perspective because we are talking about their livelihood and I am very sympathetic to that.
However, I have yet to hear 1 valid reason for rushing back to soccer for kids because it’s not in their best interest. Learning how to skate, rides bikes, and surf etc. is in the best interest of kids until we have more information.

I'm more liberal than the vast majority of the person's on these crazy boards, but the three activities your listed for kids during a pandemic -- biking, skateboarding and surfing -- spoke volumes about your economic status, privileged position in life and incredibly limited understanding of the millions of masses in SoCal. Time to drop your avatar and screen name, and stop the charade of being someone from the streets of SoCal who understands what we go through or need on a daily basis. Nobody, I mean nobody, from my hood even thinks about surfing. They hope to get to the white person beaches maybe once or twice a year. Average annual family income hovers around $40k. Kids don't have bikes, ain't no bike lanes, and it ain't even safe to bike on these streets. Welcome to where the blue-collar working masses, struggling their way through life live... kids surfing, skateboarding, biking? Please stop. Your livin' in your own Truman Show.
 
I swear to God we would sometimes beat the Gold teams whenever we’d play them.
That was me as kid sports guy when I was young and free to dream. School teachers and friends all told me to my face that I would never make it in the NBA or Pro baseball. I told them for years how wrong they were and I would prove them wrong. I was on silver level HS School baseball team and we would play and bat against future # a draft picks once in a while and the scouts had their guns out. I got my big chance against Paul Abbott when he pitched at Sunny Hills in 85'. 93 MPH and a nast change up and curve balls. I thought I had a chance ((in my dreams the night before)) for the scouts, who were watching Paul, maybe see that spark that i was brought to the team and all that hustle and "Hey nows." Well, three pitches later I was sent to bench. My once chance to shine in front of the Cubs and Twins. I got my chance and struck out swinging. I did foul tip the second pitch. First one was right down the middle and I knew I was dead after that pitch at 93. Never scene anything like it :)
 
I'm more liberal than the vast majority of the person's on these crazy boards, but the three activities your listed for kids during a pandemic -- biking, skateboarding and surfing -- spoke volumes about your economic status, privileged position in life and incredibly limited understanding of the millions of masses in SoCal. Time to drop your avatar and screen name, and stop the charade of being someone from the streets of SoCal who understands what we go through or need on a daily basis. Nobody, I mean nobody, from my hood even thinks about surfing. They hope to get to the white person beaches maybe once or twice a year. Average annual family income hovers around $40k. Kids don't have bikes, ain't no bike lanes, and it ain't even safe to bike on these streets. Welcome to where the blue-collar working masses, struggling their way through life live... kids surfing, skateboarding, biking? Please stop. Your livin' in your own Truman Show.
I get not surfing options, but biking and skateboarding cost vs. what club soccer costs? I truly hope that there is low cost soccer opportunities that are less than a used bike or skateboard that kids can take advantage of
 
I'm more liberal than the vast majority of the person's on these crazy boards, but the three activities your listed for kids during a pandemic -- biking, skateboarding and surfing -- spoke volumes about your economic status, privileged position in life and incredibly limited understanding of the millions of masses in SoCal. Time to drop your avatar and screen name, and stop the charade of being someone from the streets of SoCal who understands what we go through or need on a daily basis. Nobody, I mean nobody, from my hood even thinks about surfing. They hope to get to the white person beaches maybe once or twice a year. Average annual family income hovers around $40k. Kids don't have bikes, ain't no bike lanes, and it ain't even safe to bike on these streets. Welcome to where the blue-collar working masses, struggling their way through life live... kids surfing, skateboarding, biking? Please stop. Your livin' in your own Truman Show.

This is a joke right?
 
I'm more liberal than the vast majority of the person's on these crazy boards, but the three activities your listed for kids during a pandemic -- biking, skateboarding and surfing -- spoke volumes about your economic status, privileged position in life and incredibly limited understanding of the millions of masses in SoCal. Time to drop your avatar and screen name, and stop the charade of being someone from the streets of SoCal who understands what we go through or need on a daily basis. Nobody, I mean nobody, from my hood even thinks about surfing. They hope to get to the white person beaches maybe once or twice a year. Average annual family income hovers around $40k. Kids don't have bikes, ain't no bike lanes, and it ain't even safe to bike on these streets. Welcome to where the blue-collar working masses, struggling their way through life live... kids surfing, skateboarding, biking? Please stop. Your livin' in your own Truman Show.
I’m from the MOST DANGEROUS hood in California...learn about North Richmond homie.
 
I'm more liberal than the vast majority of the person's on these crazy boards, but the three activities your listed for kids during a pandemic -- biking, skateboarding and surfing -- spoke volumes about your economic status, privileged position in life and incredibly limited understanding of the millions of masses in SoCal. Time to drop your avatar and screen name, and stop the charade of being someone from the streets of SoCal who understands what we go through or need on a daily basis. Nobody, I mean nobody, from my hood even thinks about surfing. They hope to get to the white person beaches maybe once or twice a year. Average annual family income hovers around $40k. Kids don't have bikes, ain't no bike lanes, and it ain't even safe to bike on these streets. Welcome to where the blue-collar working masses, struggling their way through life live... kids surfing, skateboarding, biking? Please stop. Your livin' in your own Truman Show.
Hey bro, I did offer Macdre free lessons this summer but Covid hit. I swear as God is my witness that I will offer anyone free Surf Lessons next summer. I swear on my life. BTW, the last beach house I was at was owned by a super smart cat from India. Worked for Microsoft. He has his own Cove with 30 other families and I can tell you that that private beach is not all white. Maybe half, but the rest is mixed up.
 
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