Bad News Thread

More than 11,000 new cases of the disease were reported on Thursday, along with 19 deaths, according to the Department Health. A study by Public Health England showed infection rates increasing across all age groups, but are highest among people aged 20 to 29. Separately, the government said eight in 10 adults have now had their first vaccine dose.
 
This is bad...

Put in perspective. The current uk wave even with yesterday’s spike is still below spring 2020. Also guess Fauci was right about insisting on the 2 shots instead of just rolling out 1 to everyone. And it’s still confines to mostly the young

on the other hand there’s still the likely possibility in the us of a fall wave particularly unvaccinated areas and question whether the collapse of the j&j vaccine might have been in retrospect a good thing.
 
Put in perspective. The current uk wave even with yesterday’s spike is still below spring 2020. Also guess Fauci was right about insisting on the 2 shots instead of just rolling out 1 to everyone. And it’s still confines to mostly the young

on the other hand there’s still the likely possibility in the us of a fall wave particularly unvaccinated areas and question whether the collapse of the j&j vaccine might have been in retrospect a good thing.
First, they said everyone needs the shots from Wuhan Bat Lab. Then they said, "free donuts, $70 gift or a chance to win $1,000,000. All you have to do is get your damn Wuhan shots, now!!! Then, we have the folks like me and my wife who will always be 100% a big fat, "never!!" So, we will be left out and labeled rebellious and will not be allowed service, no card, no service. The same assholes who got all mad in 2016 and cheated big time in 2020 are now demanding two classes like they always have demanded. Total losers and Karma is taking them out as I speak. Oh boy, I can;t wait!!!

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Put in perspective. The current uk wave even with yesterday’s spike is still below spring 2020. Also guess Fauci was right about insisting on the 2 shots instead of just rolling out 1 to everyone. And it’s still confines to mostly the young

on the other hand there’s still the likely possibility in the us of a fall wave particularly unvaccinated areas and question whether the collapse of the j&j vaccine might have been in retrospect a good thing.
Ps same story playing out in Lisbon which is being put under travel restrictions
 
Here's the deal. I think people are second guessing their decision. This is serious stuff. I have a dear friend who has been ultra rich and super liberal his whole life. Trust fund pal and is one of the most generous people I know. However, he is so scared to die that he got his shots quickly for his family. His son has experienced headaches and bloody noses the last 30 days after taking his 2nd dose. Never had these issues before but now is going to a specialist next week.

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Here's the deal. I think people are second guessing their decision. This is serious stuff. I have a dear friend who has been ultra rich and super liberal his whole life. Trust fund pal and is one of the most generous people I know. However, he is so scared to die that he got his shots quickly for his family. His son has experienced headaches and bloody noses the last 30 days after taking his 2nd dose. Never had these issues before but now is going to a specialist next week.

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That’s not how it works.
 
Yikes!!! I have a feeling in my gut that things are about to get real gnarly. Delta strain is here to stay and CDC is telling everyone to hurry the hell up and get their shits. England has some news that will give even more pause of concern.

LONDON, England, June 18, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – The death rate from the Delta COVID variant is six times higher among those who were fully vaccinated for two weeks or longer than among those who never received a shot, according to data published by Public Health England on Friday.

 
Yikes!!! I have a feeling in my gut that things are about to get real gnarly. Delta strain is here to stay and CDC is telling everyone to hurry the hell up and get their shits. England has some news that will give even more pause of concern.

LONDON, England, June 18, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – The death rate from the Delta COVID variant is six times higher among those who were fully vaccinated for two weeks or longer than among those who never received a shot, according to data published by Public Health England on Friday.

Maybe they should normalize for age and comorbidities.
 
Buffalo Bills wide receiver Cole Beasley took a strong stance against the NFL and the NFLPA over the league’s updated COVID-19 protocols, saying he would rather retire than get vaccinated.

"I don't play for the money anymore. My family has been taken care of. Fine me if you want. My way of living and my values are more important to me than a dollar," Beasley said in a lengthy statement posted to Twitter Friday. "I will be outside doing what I do. I’ll be out in public. If your [sic] scared of me then steer clear, or get vaccinated ... I may die of covid, but I’d rather die actually living."

Beasley is taking issue with the NFL’s new guidelines for training camp and preseason which heavily restricts unvaccinated players while allowing those who have received the vaccine to return close to normalcy.
 
Of which you apparently know nothing of...
Pfizer is apparently 88% effective at preventing Delta from sending you to the hospital. That is a wonderful thing. But the other 12% do go to the hospital. It’s not as simple as “do you trust your shot or don’t you.”.

It‘s more like a dice game where all the payouts are bad.

You can play the game as written, and accept the consequences. (early “herd immunity” proposals.)

You can cheat, and use loaded dice. But you might still get unlucky. (vaccines)

Or, you can try to shut down the game, because that casino sucks. (keeping R< 1)
 
Pfizer is apparently 88% effective at preventing Delta from sending you to the hospital. That is a wonderful thing. But the other 12% do go to the hospital. It’s not as simple as “do you trust your shot or don’t you.”.

It‘s more like a dice game where all the payouts are bad.

You can play the game as written, and accept the consequences. (early “herd immunity” proposals.)

You can cheat, and use loaded dice. But you might still get unlucky. (vaccines)

Or, you can try to shut down the game, because that casino sucks. (keeping R< 1)
So we vaccinate, mask up, and lock down again until?
 
So we vaccinate, mask up, and lock down again until?
Vax alone is probably good enough, if we all do it. Worst case would be vax+masks. I don’t see a risk for lockdowns in a fully vaxxed region.

But it makes us safe through herd immunity, not just through individual immunity.
 
Spin the chamber, pull the trigger, roll the dice. Like having unprotected sex many people never experience adverse effects.
I think at some point (like now), people have to agree that not everyone is going to get vaccinated and deal with it. The interesting piece will be how it gets dealt with.

I see where the private sector is going - many large companies are requiring people to provide proof of vaccination via secure portals in return for not wearing masks in company common areas, etc. Those that do not provide proof of vaccination will have to wear masks in designated areas throughout their place of work. They are not being mandated to get a vaccine, but will be treated differently if they don't get vaccinated. It won't go over well and we will see how it plays out. People are leaving the workforce at a rate never seen before. Vaccine "encouragement" may accelerate it.
 
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