Surf Cup Scandal: Dallas Texans (PST) Salazar colludes with TFA

[SoCal23]

Exactly correct. Surf tried to win that game, RSL tried to win that game. Things happen, it's soccer. If Surf had won, they would have moved on in the playoffs. A draw only put them at risk for not advancing.

We're waiting for the video to be produced, so we can all see the evidence. Let's go, Caparelli. Upload it to YouTube and let's put this to rest.

Fair enough, it's just difficult to comprehend knowing the quality of team you have.

Exactly correct. Surf tried to win that game, RSL tried to win that game. Things happen, it's soccer. If Surf had won, they would have moved on in the playoffs. A draw only put them at risk for not advancing.

We're waiting for the video to be produced, so we can all see the evidence. Let's go, Caparelli. Upload it to YouTube and let's put this to rest.

You guys have such a great team, I guess the boys could have had a bad day. I mean TFA "B" team handled RSL pretty easy 5-2, and let's be real, TFA "B" is not very good. There is the other possibility that Surf knew the Texans would beat TFA "B". Because Surf tied, they would go in as the wildcard, eliminating TFA and setting up a favorable matchup against AZ Arsenal for a clear pathway to the final. I know wild stuff, but man, I don't put anything past anyone anymore.

What's the call for the video for? There is overwhelming evidence. What is the video going to accomplish? They already look like fools.

 

[CheatingMkay]

Both coaches were banned after the final match or before the final match? The Dallas Texans coach got to pose with the boys and their championship cup and post it to their homepage. "Texans End 2020 on a High Note at Surf Cup"

Surf Cup staff learned of the situation the night before the finals, a few hours after the semifinal match. And then received independent confirmation from Dallas Texans parents who reached out a few hours before the final. The coaches were confronted prior to the match, and both lied about it. I'm not privy to exactly what was said to the coaches, but Surf Cup decided to let the match go on and ban the coaches from all future Surf Cup Sports competitions.

 

[CheatingMkay]

Fair enough, it's just difficult to comprehend knowing the quality of team you have.



You guys have such a great team, I guess the boys could have had a bad day. I mean TFA "B" team handled RSL pretty easy 5-2, and let's be real, TFA "B" is not very good. There is the other possibility that Surf knew the Texans would beat TFA "B". Because Surf tied, they would go in as the wildcard, eliminating TFA and setting up a favorable matchup against AZ Arsenal for a clear pathway to the final. I know wild stuff, but man, I don't put anything past anyone anymore.

What's the call for the video for? There is overwhelming evidence. What is the video going to accomplish? They already look like fools.

There is overwhelming evidence. But the TFA coach said he had video which would exonerate him if produced. Produce it, or forever be branded a cheater.

 

[SoCal23]

There is overwhelming evidence. But the TFA coach said he had video which would exonerate him if produced. Produce it, or forever be branded a cheater.

Go ahead and brand him.....he's not producing it....lol

It's a really bad mistake he made. He's a passionate guy and that moment got the best of him for sure.

 

[Advantage]

Well said ! And spot on everything you said about TFA training but that whale a with all the younger age groups ect one thing add debatable or not. TFA (the W )condones this behavior from the younger 2012 to 2010 whether it’s their A B C teams. Am glad someone called the coach Caperelli name out already ,definitely should be held accountable. Word is that he currently attending cal south classes to obtain he's D license , wonder how that going to turn out

Why parents on the TFA side didn’t say anything because their child would have suffer the consequences. Because when they don’t get their way they turn on the player/parents ,90% are Latinos they go with that illusion you mention. But trust me Karen/Ken would have been raising hell if they received or heard coach talking about let’s just tie .That why a good handful or more left to their neighbor club and taking advantage during Covid in regards to clubs fee

Back to this , I keep hearing but I may be wrong, these last couple years have they really being raided by LAG and LAFC. Anyway website page was probably taken down because the W probably threatened to sue TFA can’t take the truth. End the day everything out whether both Dallas or TFA like it our not.

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There is overwhelming evidence. But the TFA coach said he had video which would exonerate him if produced. Produce it, or forever be branded a cheater.

There is overwhelming evidence. But the TFA coach said he had video which would exonerate him if produced. Produce it, or forever be branded a cheater.

you should of won your 3 games but you didnt so move on!!!
maybe if the surf cup "staffer" uploads the video of him recording 10yr olds on the spot (which there was no consent)

 

[Looky_Louie]

If Surf knew before hand I would have suspended the two coaches and allowed the game to be played on the condition that the teams play to win (maybe even prohibit the parents on the sideline). I'm pretty sure if you tell kids that if you lose you don't move on, that kids will play their hearts out. If the game still ended in a tie, then so be it. Obviously the game should be monitored. I have no clue regarding the timing of Surf's knowledge but to me its a lot better to prevent a situation before it happens than allow it to happen and punish after the fact. Some may laugh at this, but I'd bet the fact that any action taken by Surf that prevented the game from being played or disqualifying the teams would be construed by some as ulterior motives by Surf to benefit a Surf team. You may laugh at this too, but maybe, just maybe Surf took the high road in this situation.

I don't know the inner workings of TFA, but we've had nothing but positive experiences with TFA (other than usually getting our butts kicked). It's been a few years, but I've always felt, at least with the youngers, that they play the right way and play some of the most attractive soccer. A handful of years ago we played TFA at Surf Cup. It was the first year they went to the mini fields for the youngers. Goalies could literally score off punts (hadn't implemented any rules yet at the tourney to prevent it). It turned into a game of boom ball, shots on kickoff etc. Every team except TFA resorted to this style of play. TFA continued to play their short passing game, which ultimately cost them in the playoffs.

It makes no sense for the Texans to offer TFA 2 a collusion. What do they get out of colluding with TFA team 2. They could have easily beaten them and still made the finals as all the remainder teams sucked, including Surf 2010. As you can see all the teams that made it to finals got spanked.
As far as TFA 2 they seem like a pretty legit team. According to Youth Soccer Rankings they are ranked 12th in the nation and 4th in Southern California. A lot of the players from team 2 have either gone to TFA 1 or even gone to LAFC. It just doesn’t make sense that the Texans would agree to collude if they are a better team and general. I just think that Surf was probably losing their game and colluded with RSL-AZ to tie in hopes that TFA or the Texans would lose and they would both slip into the semi finals. At the end of the day all of it seems shady from Surf fixing the brackets and surf tying 4-4 and the coach from Surf coming to the final game pressuring the kids to raise their hands to something that can’t be proved and filming the kids with no parent consent. I’m just saying allegedly.

 

[fantasyfutbol]

It makes no sense for the Texans to offer TFA 2 a collusion. What do they get out of colluding with TFA team 2. They could have easily beaten them and still made the finals as all the remainder teams sucked, including Surf 2010. As you can see all the teams that made it to finals got spanked.
As far as TFA 2 they seem like a pretty legit team. According to Youth Soccer Rankings they are ranked 12th in the nation and 4th in Southern California. A lot of the players from team 2 have either gone to TFA 1 or even gone to LAFC. It just doesn’t make sense that the Texans would agree to collude if they are a better team and general. I just think that Surf was probably losing their game and colluded with RSL-AZ to tie in hopes that TFA or the Texans would lose and they would both slip into the semi finals. At the end of the day all of it seems shady from Surf fixing the brackets and surf tying 4-4 and the coach from Surf coming to the final game pressuring the kids to raise their hands to something that can’t be proved and filming the kids with no parent consent. I’m just saying allegedly.

The topic is Salazar and Caparelli cheating. A sub topic is Dallas parents appear to not have liked that situation and reported it to a North Texas News Source. The link still works. Check it out for yourself.

You decide to join on Sunday and your first post is "Surf Sucks". Maybe Surf does suck, it appears they do. What the hell does that have to do with Salazar and Caparelli being dirtbags?

Take Panfilo to get an ice cream with his silver surf medal around his neck and tell him he is going pro. After that take him to his B team practice (or TFA 2 as you like to call it).

 

[CheatingMkay]

It makes no sense for the Texans to offer TFA 2 a collusion. What do they get out of colluding with TFA team 2. They could have easily beaten them and still made the finals as all the remainder teams sucked, including Surf 2010. As you can see all the teams that made it to finals got spanked.
As far as TFA 2 they seem like a pretty legit team. According to Youth Soccer Rankings they are ranked 12th in the nation and 4th in Southern California. A lot of the players from team 2 have either gone to TFA 1 or even gone to LAFC. It just doesn’t make sense that the Texans would agree to collude if they are a better team and general. I just think that Surf was probably losing their game and colluded with RSL-AZ to tie in hopes that TFA or the Texans would lose and they would both slip into the semi finals. At the end of the day all of it seems shady from Surf fixing the brackets and surf tying 4-4 and the coach from Surf coming to the final game pressuring the kids to raise their hands to something that can’t be proved and filming the kids with no parent consent. I’m just saying allegedly.

It does not make a lot of sense. You are right. And yet they did collude to fix the match, which is why many of their parents were angry about it. I wish they would have confronted the coach before the match to change his mind, but they didn't.

Face it. Your coach had your kids cheat and you sat by and let it happen. Your boys know what they did was wrong, but they had both their parents and coach telling them it was ok.

You know that what you did was wrong, which is why you are bringing up unrelated arguments and accusations to try and focus attention elsewhere. I really hope you and the other parents on the team realize that some things are more important than not pissing off your 20-something coach, and use this incident to teach them about sportsmanship and honesty.

 

[notintheface]

You guys by far are a much better team, yet it finished 4-4. Were they also trying to get into a better position to get to the final?

10-year-olds literally could not fix a match 4-4 if their lives depended on it. "Wait, should I shoot now? No? Yes? F it, here goes..."

 

[Advantage]

The topic is Salazar and Caparelli cheating. A sub topic is Dallas parents appear to not have liked that situation and reported it to a North Texas News Source. The link still works. Check it out for yourself.

You decide to join on Sunday and your first post is "Surf Sucks". Maybe Surf does suck, it appears they do. What the hell does that have to do with Salazar and Caparelli being dirtbags?

Take Panfilo to get an ice cream with his silver surf medal around his neck and tell him he is going pro. After that take him to his B team practice (or TFA 2 as you like to call it).

If the topic is Salazar and caparelli what the hell does little panfilo have to do with
You best believe we get La Michoacána before and after practice .

 

[texanincali]

I guess I don’t understand the back and forth here. Was there a message sent to the Texan team letting parent know what was going to happen? Has anyone seen this message with their own eyes? From what I understand this coach has a reputation and this wouldn’t surprise many people.

If there is still a debate as to whether or not this actually happened, how do we get to a conclusion?

 

[Giesbock]

You are obviously a TFA parent.

If a coach sent texts and teamsnaps to the team telling them they would arrange the bracket to be easy, parents would complain...almost no one who plays COMPETITIVE soccer wants that. Take you kid to AYSO with that garbage.

Your complaint about bracketing is null because there were no complicit coaches or parents who planned it. The difference is you knew and chose to be blind or a hypocrite calling yourself a competitive team.

So yeah, it makes sense that people judge your teams for having no morals, you proved it! Oh wait never mind, I just remembered you walk around with your shirts tucked in....amazing values!

The good news is you begged Dallas to have mercy on you in the group stage so you can get your butt whooping in the finals. Little Panfilo got to get his losing medal from competitive soccer. You really wanted that silver SURF medal...badly. Little Panfilo will definitely go pro with this new confidence of cheating to get second place.

BTW welcome to the B team.
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fish rots from the head down... if FIFA can arrange for Quaatar to host WC in mid summer, why not tweak the outcome of a U10 tournament.

this is the saddest thing I’ve read on the forum by far. Little boys manipulated so a coach can hang a medal around his neck and hug a plastic trophy?

 

[Looky_Louie]

If the topic is Salazar and caparelli what the hell does little panfilo have to do with
You best believe we get La Michoacána before and after practice .

The problem with Fantasyfutbol is that he’s bitter that his little guy never went pro and still trolls this forum since 2016. BTW my son plays for AYSO and is 16 years old. We play the game for fun and ice cream.
I don’t know those two coaches, but everything that everybody is saying is fake news and just because someone writes something in bold doesn’t make it true. At the end of the day, it really is about little panfilo and making sure he eats that ice cream with that cherry on top.

 

[CheatingMkay]

I guess I don’t understand the back and forth here. Was there a message sent to the Texan team letting parent know what was going to happen? Has anyone seen this message with their own eyes? From what I understand this coach has a reputation and this wouldn’t surprise many people.

If there is still a debate as to whether or not this actually happened, how do we get to a conclusion?

Yes, the screenshots were viewed by Surf Cup staff, and the reporter. Both TeamSnap messages from the Texans coach telling the parents that they were not going to play to win, and many angry group texts amongst the Texans parents outraged by the plan but not willing to pull their kid out of the game. The Surf coach who was eliminated watched the "game". The refs wrote a report on the match saying that no one tried to score. Every kid admitted they were told not to shoot.

There's no question it happened. It's telling that the two sets of parents reacted very differently. Texans parents were angry, organized a parent meeting to discuss, and some boycotted watching the game. TFA, on the other hand, reacted angrily when confronted, and seemed outraged not at the coach, but with Surf Cup staff who had the temerity to object to their cheating. The TFA DoC even sent Surf Cup an angry email demnding punishment for the staffer who confronted the coaches. I'm sure he reacted based solely on Caparelli's lies - he has gone radio silent since.

 

[timbuck]

10-year-olds literally could not fix a match 4-4 if their lives depended on it. "Wait, should I shoot now? No? Yes? F it, here goes..."

A good chunk of them wouldn't even know what the score is. "Whats the score? Are we winning?"

 

[Ed Ho]

Two things:

1) I watched about 15 mins of the game and it was definitely fixed, with neither team attempting to score ( and no I don’t have a child who plays in the age group, or any vested interest in the game - just waiting as My sons team warmed up).

2) This forum is much like youth soccer in general - it brings out the best in some and worst in others ( some of the comments on here are just off topic and ignorant - let’s all stay away from judging the quality of someone else’s team, especially 10 year olds). Later that day, I talked to my son about this game and about tactics team use in general when teams try to win. Our job is to raise young kids into productive members of society as adults - teach them what is right and wrong. That applies both in the game and out of it. In any normal job, both of coaches would be suspended / fired from their jobs.

 

[SoCal23]

It makes no sense for the Texans to offer TFA 2 a collusion. What do they get out of colluding with TFA team 2. They could have easily beaten them and still made the finals as all the remainder teams sucked, including Surf 2010. As you can see all the teams that made it to finals got spanked.
As far as TFA 2 they seem like a pretty legit team. According to Youth Soccer Rankings they are ranked 12th in the nation and 4th in Southern California. A lot of the players from team 2 have either gone to TFA 1 or even gone to LAFC. It just doesn’t make sense that the Texans would agree to collude if they are a better team and general. I just think that Surf was probably losing their game and colluded with RSL-AZ to tie in hopes that TFA or the Texans would lose and they would both slip into the semi finals. At the end of the day all of it seems shady from Surf fixing the brackets and surf tying 4-4 and the coach from Surf coming to the final game pressuring the kids to raise their hands to something that can’t be proved and filming the kids with no parent consent. I’m just saying allegedly.

Now this is funny...youth soccer rankings...the ones that have LAUFA as #1 and Surf Select not even on the list....Many players from TFA2 going to LAFC??? C'mon man seriously? Where are you getting your info from.

Salazar wanted to play TFA2 in the final because they can easily be beat. He wanted to avoid Surf because he knows who they are... he almost lost to them last year and Salazar had a much stronger team.

 

[ntxsoccerwire]

The story has been republished on our site. It was originally unpublished because our sources were unable/unwilling to provide the evidence we felt we would need to defend the story against any liable/defamation claims. In the 36 hours we took the story down, we've since obtained the necessary information corroborated the story with parents sources who confirmed it all. There for we've put it back up.

Surf Cup Scandal: Match Fixing involved two of the Nations Top U11 Teams

ntx.soccer

It looks like the post on nxt.soccer has been taken down. Someone either came to their senses or were compelled to come to their senses.

Could you imagine if Surf had disqualified one or both of the teams, the furor that would cause by putting Surf into the semi-finals. We have enough Surf axe grinding threads as it is.

The story has been republished on our site. It was originally unpublished because our sources were unable/unwilling to provide the evidence we felt we would need to defend the story against any liable/defamation claims. In the 36 hours we took the story down, we've since obtained the necessary information corroborated the story with parents sources who confirmed it all. There for we've put it back up.

Surf Cup Scandal: Match Fixing involved two of the Nations Top U11 Teams

ntx.soccer

 

[watfly]

fish rots from the head down... if FIFA can arrange for Quaatar to host WC in mid summer, why not tweak the outcome of a U10 tournament.

That's an interesting perspective and there is probably some element of truth to it. However, as far as FIFA goes your talking about an international organization where in some countries bribery, mordida, etc is often standard operating procedure.

This situation obviously has more to do with the focus on winning as opposed to development. I'm not anti-tournaments, but tournaments often bring out the worst in teams/clubs...bracket fixing, running up the score, tie collusion, bat-shit crazy parents (particularly at youngers). The worst behavior I've seen has far and away been at tourneys and not league games. Some things are tournament host caused like running up the score, which is somewhat solvable by changing tiebreaker priority from most goals scored or score differential to fewest goals against or shutouts. In fact, I like tournaments that give bonus points for shutouts. Fortunately, our team doesn't normally play tournaments, although we likely will this spring and summer since league has been postponed until September.

To me it seems like TFA/Texans to wasted a competitive game, but I guess the could argue they got 2 for the price of 1. Super lame regardless.

 

[Eagle33]

That's an interesting perspective and there is probably some element of truth to it. However, as far as FIFA goes your talking about an international organization where in some countries bribery, mordida, etc is often standard operating procedure.

This situation obviously has more to do with the focus on winning as opposed to development. I'm not anti-tournaments, but tournaments often bring out the worst in teams/clubs...bracket fixing, running up the score, tie collusion, bat-shit crazy parents (particularly at youngers). The worst behavior I've seen has far and away been at tourneys and not league games. Some things are tournament host caused like running up the score, which is somewhat solvable by changing tiebreaker priority from most goals scored or score differential to fewest goals against or shutouts. In fact, I like tournaments that give bonus points for shutouts. Fortunately, our team doesn't normally play tournaments, although we likely will this spring and summer since league has been postponed until September.

To me it seems like TFA/Texans to wasted a competitive game, but I guess the could argue they got 2 for the price of 1. Super lame regardless.

Which League was postponed until September? Is there official statement?