Surf cup throws in the towel...well kind of!

It sounds as if you have never actually been in a classroom that is in session. I am not talking about Open Houses or parent nights or conferences. A full class is IMPOSSIBLE to social distance. Thus you have the hybrid model, half the school in session at one time half learning at home. We often say it is like having mice in a cage with very little room to turn around in. California schools are packed. Maybe the rich private schools have small class sizes and big rooms with windows that can be opened. You are comparing apples and oranges.
How do all other states/schools have person to PERSON?
 
Real question- do you worry that if she doesn't go pro, she won't have anything to fall back on? I understand that his post was very matter-of-fact, but all that aside, don't you think there is some truth to not being laser focused on one thing? I took his post to mean more than just sports, as in getting kids focused on education too. But, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time!
Dreams only become real when you dream them and then you act on that dream. That dream was attacked hard and so much spooky stuff I wont share here. Maybe Oct 31st I will. Anyway, she wants to go to college first for four years and then if pro bucks is there and she is good enough to hang with all the pros, then she will play pro soccer. If pro soccer dont work, then she will be a professional in another profession or be her own boss. Not to brag, she has much to fall back on. Soccer is her passion right now and something she loves to do and is looking forward to making a living doing what she loves. Question for you and be honest. Are you in love with what your doing with your life? Are you doing what you dreamed of as a young boy or teenager? Be honest........ Do you feel free to pursue whatever the hell you want right now as we talk online? My whole family does whatever the hell they want as individuals. My son can do whatever the hell he wants and so can my dd. I'm just here to help them with whatever the hell they want in life. It's the roll I love and I have passion for it. Pursue it and go get it!!!
 
Dreams only become real when you dream them and then you act on that dream. That dream was attacked hard and so much spooky stuff I wont share here. Maybe Oct 31st I will. Anyway, she wants to go to college first for four years and then if pro bucks is there and she is good enough to hang with all the pros, then she will play pro soccer. If pro soccer dont work, then she will be a professional in another profession or be her own boss. Not to brag, she has much to fall back on. Soccer is her passion right now and something she loves to do and is looking forward to making a living doing what she loves. Question for you and be honest. Are you in love with what your doing with your life? Are you doing what you dreamed of as a young boy or teenager? Be honest........ Do you feel free to pursue whatever the hell you want right now as we talk online? My whole family does whatever the hell they want as individuals. My son can do whatever the hell he wants and so can my dd. I'm just here to help them with whatever the hell they want in life. It's the roll I love and I have passion for it. Pursue it and go get it!!!
Well then it sounds like I think you and Canadian Dad aren't as far apart as maybe it seemed. Your DD sounds very well rounded and I wish her the best.
And am I doing what I dreamed of as a kid? LOL-I don't mean to laugh but no- I don't even remember what I dreamt of, I'm old as shit! Anyway, best of luck!
 
Let’s keep in mind that indoor soccer is in full effect in SoCal. You don’t need to spend your entire weekend traveling out of state for a soccer game. Kids just want to play and indoor can take care of that. I saw a tournament advertised in Yuma.....!? It looks like AZ is going to do to SoCal what we’ve been doing to them all these years advertising crappy tournaments. Someone is going to make a lot of money from crazy parents traveling to AZ every other weekend.
Yuma is only 2.5 hours away from San Diego. That's like going to LA for a tournament.
 
Well then it sounds like I think you and Canadian Dad aren't as far apart as maybe it seemed. Your DD sounds very well rounded and I wish her the best.
And am I doing what I dreamed of as a kid? LOL-I don't mean to laugh but no- I don't even remember what I dreamt of, I'm old as shit! Anyway, best of luck!
Its cool. i think we should live life as we see fit. Peace and best of luck to you. I super appreciate teachers as well......
 
Posted this in August from a post made by Watfly regarding UTLA. Highlighted the segment that pertains here.
"As an educator I do think UTLA's demands are over the top. At one time I worked for LAUSD. Its a big machine. However, most teacher unions are not like UTLA. Not even close. Nor do they make demands like UTLA. My union works directly with the community, the district and the teachers. It's as transparent as it can be and essentially tries to avoid politics as much as possible. When statements are made about districts not able to open because of unions take into account its just not the unions. It is a collective. State government, local government, a district, etc... "
Not sure of your point (my comprehension, not your explanation). No question UTLA is more political and militant than other districts although SDUSD is not far behind. The community I live in tends to be more conservative for California and as such our districts are less liberal. As a result, they are attempting to reopen schools (In fact one of our districts applied for a waiver to reopen before across the board reopenings were allowed) Unfortunately, due to complete ineptitude and lack of planning by my son's middle school district, the hybrid is a complete cluster. My daughter's high school hybrid (only in person 1 day) is much better but far from ideal. SDUSD was given the go ahead to reopen by the County a month or two ago but has steadfastly refused and has no current plans to do so in the future. This is primarily driven by the influence of the union.

Meanwhile many private schools in our county, even some with limited resources, are open for full time, in person learning. What don't private schools have? Unionized teachers.
 
Meanwhile many private schools in our county, even some with limited resources, are open for full time, in person learning. What don't private schools have? Unionized teachers.
The first to open in AZ were private and charter schools. Most of the public's just started yesterday...and are still not full time. Privates and charters have been full time since the first Mon of Sept.
 
The first to open in AZ were private and charter schools. Most of the public's just started yesterday...and are still not full time. Privates and charters have been full time since the first Mon of Sept.
Schools opening and playing outdoor sports should be two separate things. The rates of infection are dramatically different. AZ seems to get it and had outdoor sports open first. Now they are trying inside classes. California needs to do the same.
 
Here's my advice teacher from Canada. Mine your own business and focus on teaching the subject at hand. My kid can play all sports or just one sport. If she wants to ball full time and go pro, keep your opinion to yourself unless she ask you for your thoughts. Pro girls soccer player and dont tell her she cant or she just might.
For the record, I'm a dual-citizen and live-work in OC.

My point is very simple...kids have always fascinated about becoming a professional athlete, and there is no problem with that. But up until about 5-10 years ago, kids (and families) pursued that dream while also leaving plenty of time for academics, family time, hanging out with friends, playing other sports, discovering other hobbies, travel that doesn't involve sport, etc. "Becoming pro" didn't mean giving up everything else at the age of 8yrs. Now, I see it all the time. Parents have more free time (and money) to drive kids all over the place to play and they do. Private lessons, private coaches, tournaments every weekend, and many clubs are complicit in pressuring the parents to skew their priorities.

Most kids don't realize all the potential pathways or careers they could take in the future. If all they hear about at home is soccer, how will they ever determine if they have a passion for writing poetry or making rockets or researching sharks.
 
For the record, I'm a dual-citizen and live-work in OC.

My point is very simple...kids have always fascinated about becoming a professional athlete, and there is no problem with that. But up until about 5-10 years ago, kids (and families) pursued that dream while also leaving plenty of time for academics, family time, hanging out with friends, playing other sports, discovering other hobbies, travel that doesn't involve sport, etc. "Becoming pro" didn't mean giving up everything else at the age of 8yrs. Now, I see it all the time. Parents have more free time (and money) to drive kids all over the place to play and they do. Private lessons, private coaches, tournaments every weekend, and many clubs are complicit in pressuring the parents to skew their priorities.

Most kids don't realize all the potential pathways or careers they could take in the future. If all they hear about at home is soccer, how will they ever determine if they have a passion for writing poetry or making rockets or researching sharks.
For the record Mr Canada & Mr America, I have no problem with a kid wanting to get educated and being a pro in life. Pro Dentist, Pro Lawyer, pro Teacher, Pro Music or Pro Athelete. It's called a freedom to choose. Do you know how many teachers told me not to dream and my lot in life is to go to school and if I want to be a success, then I have to go to college somehow. Since college is so freaking expensive and so many today leave with a house payment, I was told that you can "earn" college if your a good soccer player. My dd said to me one time when she was in Vancouver watching world cup in 2015 that she would like to be on the World Cup team and go Pro. I told her I to wanted to go pro when I was her age and if pro is want you want, then I will help you go pro. For the record and just so I'm clear, today, pro is not that big of a deal for her. Right now she wants to get good grades ((staright A's right now)), play a ecnl league game before 2021 comes and hopefully find a college coach and college that is good fit and she can continue with her higher education.
 
Others are apparently moving there rest of the year tournaments like the major ones around Thanksgiving to out of state venues also

San diego tourism is going to have to open a Arizona Branch or something to give me people directions and booking info. November night are now Tucson nights and you drive until the 10 ends look for some lighten fields and ask yourself where the heck am I?

My opinion, not that anybody cares at all which is fine. I think it's selfish and stupid to move tournaments out of state over the holidays, especially when a lot of it is being sprung on parents/kids. I will say it for the millionth time.... effing call the "season" already. Focus on teams getting to actually train and scrimmage and get in match day shape then perhaps host games for the olders so they can have footage. This is basically a non existent season for CA.
But Jesus Christ, all this fighting on this forum and the traveling out of state for scrimmages and one or two league games or tournaments which are stupid for the youngers is killing me. Think it's time for me to check out of this forum for a bit.... which is a shame because I used to get some good soccer information. Now I just get people who think they're smarter than Fauci who won't stfu seriously?? you can not like the guy, fine that's your opinion but give me a break please don't claim to be smarter than him .. okay rant done.

Have a good day

Best of luck to all the players, parents and teams!!
 
My opinion, not that anybody cares at all which is fine. I think it's selfish and stupid to move tournaments out of state over the holidays, especially when a lot of it is being sprung on parents/kids. I will say it for the millionth time.... effing call the "season" already. Focus on teams getting to actually train and scrimmage and get in match day shape then perhaps host games for the olders so they can have footage. This is basically a non existent season for CA.
But Jesus Christ, all this fighting on this forum and the traveling out of state for scrimmages and one or two league games or tournaments which are stupid for the youngers is killing me. Think it's time for me to check out of this forum for a bit.... which is a shame because I used to get some good soccer information. Now I just get people who think they're smarter than Fauci who won't stfu seriously?? you can not like the guy, fine that's your opinion but give me a break please don't claim to be smarter than him .. okay rant done.

Have a good day

Best of luck to all the players, parents and teams!!
I like people to have an opinion and speak it. I might not agree with you all the time Footy, but I do care what you say. I care what everyone has to say. I have never ignored anyone either. One guy who has been here the longest ignores those who are right. It's too hard to hear the truth so some just ignore the truth and that's ok to do as well.
 
My opinion, not that anybody cares at all which is fine. I think it's selfish and stupid to move tournaments out of state over the holidays, especially when a lot of it is being sprung on parents/kids. I will say it for the millionth time.... effing call the "season" already. Focus on teams getting to actually train and scrimmage and get in match day shape then perhaps host games for the olders so they can have footage. This is basically a non existent season for CA.
But Jesus Christ, all this fighting on this forum and the traveling out of state for scrimmages and one or two league games or tournaments which are stupid for the youngers is killing me. Think it's time for me to check out of this forum for a bit.... which is a shame because I used to get some good soccer information. Now I just get people who think they're smarter than Fauci who won't stfu seriously?? you can not like the guy, fine that's your opinion but give me a break please don't claim to be smarter than him .. okay rant done.

Have a good day

Best of luck to all the players, parents and teams!!
I feel your rant and I've been thinking the same. I've just been getting on to see how we as a soccer community can work together to make the best of this season in light of the pandemic but it appears most of us are trying to disprove mask efficiency based on people who don't know how to cover their nose and mouth. When there was an actual rally to bring light to the issue we cared about - only 250 people showed up. Lots of talk and no action drive me insane. I'm out too. Hope to see everyone soon when we decide to be true conservatives again and let Jesus' teachings be our guide and our civic duty be the light in our decision making: humans first, country second, family & friends, and then the individual. We've reversed the order somehow and the consequences are showing in our society. God Bless you all.
 
My opinion, not that anybody cares at all which is fine. I think it's selfish and stupid to move tournaments out of state over the holidays, especially when a lot of it is being sprung on parents/kids. I will say it for the millionth time.... effing call the "season" already. Focus on teams getting to actually train and scrimmage and get in match day shape then perhaps host games for the olders so they can have footage. This is basically a non existent season for CA.
But Jesus Christ, all this fighting on this forum and the traveling out of state for scrimmages and one or two league games or tournaments which are stupid for the youngers is killing me. Think it's time for me to check out of this forum for a bit.... which is a shame because I used to get some good soccer information. Now I just get people who think they're smarter than Fauci who won't stfu seriously?? you can not like the guy, fine that's your opinion but give me a break please don't claim to be smarter than him .. okay rant done.

Have a good day

Best of luck to all the players, parents and teams!!
I hear you, and both of us think its prudent at this point in time to just plan on starting the season in January. Our club recently sprung a Thanksgiving Arizona tournament (more friendly scrimmages than anything else) on us and most of the parents are just saying no (we likely will not field a team). I realize parents fear the consequences to their child of saying no, but the parent is the customer...take your power back. We've agreed to play some scrimmages in AZ in a few weeks, but the holiday is a no go.

You also have to remember that some of us are in leagues with AZ teams, we have three teams in our league. So traveling to AZ was already in the cards for us, at some point in time. Its not a big deal for us to travel there for scrimmages since there was already the expectation we'd be traveling for games.
 
For the record, I'm a dual-citizen and live-work in OC.

My point is very simple...kids have always fascinated about becoming a professional athlete, and there is no problem with that. But up until about 5-10 years ago, kids (and families) pursued that dream while also leaving plenty of time for academics, family time, hanging out with friends, playing other sports, discovering other hobbies, travel that doesn't involve sport, etc. "Becoming pro" didn't mean giving up everything else at the age of 8yrs. Now, I see it all the time. Parents have more free time (and money) to drive kids all over the place to play and they do. Private lessons, private coaches, tournaments every weekend, and many clubs are complicit in pressuring the parents to skew their priorities.

Most kids don't realize all the potential pathways or careers they could take in the future. If all they hear about at home is soccer, how will they ever determine if they have a passion for writing poetry or making rockets or researching sharks.
Based on the girls' teams that my daughter has been part of, academics is a big priority. My impression is that boys tend to be more focused on playing professionally than girls. I am not seeing "becoming pro" keeping the girls I have observed from being excellent students who prioritize their education.
 
I hear you, and both of us think its prudent at this point in time to just plan on starting the season in January. Our club recently sprung a Thanksgiving Arizona tournament (more friendly scrimmages than anything else) on us and most of the parents are just saying no (we likely will not field a team). I realize parents fear the consequences to their child of saying no, but the parent is the customer...take your power back. We've agreed to play some scrimmages in AZ in a few weeks, but the holiday is a no go.

You also have to remember that some of us are in leagues with AZ teams, we have three teams in our league. So traveling to AZ was already in the cards for us, at some point in time. Its not a big deal for us to travel there for scrimmages since there was already the expectation we'd be traveling for games.
If you’re already in GA or ECNL, the scrimmages are more about getting ready for a season that you know will happen. Might be all travel games, but you’ll play.

For youngers, or olders playing in a more local league, the scrimmages and tournaments are about having games at all. We don’t know whether we will even have a spring season. It seems just as speculative as those September dates for Surf Cup. So it’s parents pushing the coaches, not the other way around.
 
I hear you, and both of us think its prudent at this point in time to just plan on starting the season in January. Our club recently sprung a Thanksgiving Arizona tournament (more friendly scrimmages than anything else) on us and most of the parents are just saying no (we likely will not field a team). I realize parents fear the consequences to their child of saying no, but the parent is the customer...take your power back. We've agreed to play some scrimmages in AZ in a few weeks, but the holiday is a no go.

You also have to remember that some of us are in leagues with AZ teams, we have three teams in our league. So traveling to AZ was already in the cards for us, at some point in time. Its not a big deal for us to travel there for scrimmages since there was already the expectation we'd be traveling for games.

So much for me stepping away huh? lol I understand what you're saying, our league has 2 AZ teams and a NV team, so yes we would travel anyway in a normal season, and again for showcases, but my concern is going from distance training to straight playing, strictly from an injury perspective. I realize some teams have been scrimmaging, etc. but not all teams have, and I really don't want to see anyone get injured from going 0 to full throttle just to squeeze in early league games ya know? Good for your parents for coming together to say yes to scrimmage but no to holiday. Like I said I don't want to sound like a hypocrite because I can't remember a Thanksgiving not on the pitch, but this year is so different to say the least.

Anyway, you get what I'm saying we're on the same page... Best of luck to your team and son or daughter!!
 
So much for me stepping away huh? lol I understand what you're saying, our league has 2 AZ teams and a NV team, so yes we would travel anyway in a normal season, and again for showcases, but my concern is going from distance training to straight playing, strictly from an injury perspective. I realize some teams have been scrimmaging, etc. but not all teams have, and I really don't want to see anyone get injured from going 0 to full throttle just to squeeze in early league games ya know? Good for your parents for coming together to say yes to scrimmage but no to holiday. Like I said I don't want to sound like a hypocrite because I can't remember a Thanksgiving not on the pitch, but this year is so different to say the least.

Anyway, you get what I'm saying we're on the same page... Best of luck to your team and son or daughter!!
Welcome back bro, I want to leave and never come back every day. Today I was thinking of sitting out until Nov 4th.
 
my concern is going from distance training to straight playing, strictly from an injury perspective.

Anyway, you get what I'm saying we're on the same page... Best of luck to your team and son or daughter!!
Let's just say I'm not as worried about my son and his teammates getting injured ;)

Best of luck to you and yours as well.
 
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