Guidance are not for everyone

Eagle33 said:
Don't make this political.
Cal South is the soccer governing body who came up with Phased return to play guidelines. If someone is not following it, they are should be taking action.
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Agree completely. This isn't about COVID-19 at all. This is about rules/mandates in place regardless if people agree with them or not. It is about integrity and values. I pulled the following from an article "Integrity Issues in Competitive Sports" by Lawal Yazid Ibrahim Ph.D.

"Rules, codes of conduct, good governance principles, monitoring and sanctions are important deterrence and accountability measures and to preserve peoples’ rights and responsibilities in sport."

"Informed and ethical decision making is a key element in ensuring sports and participants maintain integrity in their choices and actions."
 
I post what I want, when I want. Who gives a shit what you think. Thanks for admitting it bugs you, that means your jealous. I’ll be thinking about you on my next scrimmage.
 
chiefs said:
Goid common sense that Jacks in California don’t get.
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Again, what about this bothers you so much? Is it that my child will have an advantage over yours when soccer resumes next year? I want to understand. Can you imagine being a baseball parent and sitting at home and hating everybody for organizing illegal tournaments and games, WITH UMPIRES!! Man, I wouldn’t like to be in your guy’s shoes with all that anger towards people you don’t know.
 
tjinaz said:
Wow.. better not come to Arizona this weekend. Fri, Sat and Sun clubs will be running scrimmages for all age groups. Then Next weekend the clubs are doing informal play arounds against other clubs all over metro Phoenix. Now there are rules and protections in place but the kids are playing.

Guidelines from the announcement.

As of today, the state government guidance still requires that at no more than 50 people can gather in one place, and most of the city parks have adopted that guidance as well. This is one of the reasons we ask parents to stay in the car or away from the fields when we train or scrimmage. The adherence to this request has been comprehensive within the club and we appreciate your understanding and actions. We anticipate this guidance could loosen over the coming weeks, and perhaps even for the festival of futbol, and we will keep you updated. Once the state has updated its guidelines I anticipate our state association guidelines will be similar. For now, I can share what most of the states who are playing soccer games right now have implemented:
  • One parent per child may watch the game and that parent must wear a mask. Some associations have said one parent for u12 and below and no spectators for u13 and above.
  • All coaches must wear a mask and the number of coaches allowed on the sideline will be reduced to ensure more space for distancing.
  • Entry and exit from the field will be done in a timely manner.
  • Social distancing will be enforced on the bench.
Again, for now, we cannot have any spectators but we believe once spectators are allowed it will look something like what is described above. To be clear the focus is on making sure that the times of extended exposure in a close space are limited. We have shared studies and data over the past weeks regarding the safety of soccer due to the lack of prolonged exposure to any one person at any one time. The guidelines surrounding the games will help ensure that there is no prolonged exposure for those watching and participating. Tournaments and games have been going full speed ahead in many states including those with high infection rates like Texas. Yet, there have still been no alerts of community spread thru soccer as the safety measures around the games have kept everyone as safe as possible.
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Wow why can’t jacks in calif follow common sense like this; instead the so cal soccer community is turning against one another. Sad day when California is following behind again.
 
Any tournaments
tjinaz said:
Wow.. better not come to Arizona this weekend. Fri, Sat and Sun clubs will be running scrimmages for all age groups. Then Next weekend the clubs are doing informal play arounds against other clubs all over metro Phoenix. Now there are rules and protections in place but the kids are playing.

Guidelines from the announcement.

As of today, the state government guidance still requires that at no more than 50 people can gather in one place, and most of the city parks have adopted that guidance as well. This is one of the reasons we ask parents to stay in the car or away from the fields when we train or scrimmage. The adherence to this request has been comprehensive within the club and we appreciate your understanding and actions. We anticipate this guidance could loosen over the coming weeks, and perhaps even for the festival of futbol, and we will keep you updated. Once the state has updated its guidelines I anticipate our state association guidelines will be similar. For now, I can share what most of the states who are playing soccer games right now have implemented:
  • One parent per child may watch the game and that parent must wear a mask. Some associations have said one parent for u12 and below and no spectators for u13 and above.
  • All coaches must wear a mask and the number of coaches allowed on the sideline will be reduced to ensure more space for distancing.
  • Entry and exit from the field will be done in a timely manner.
  • Social distancing will be enforced on the bench.
Again, for now, we cannot have any spectators but we believe once spectators are allowed it will look something like what is described above. To be clear the focus is on making sure that the times of extended exposure in a close space are limited. We have shared studies and data over the past weeks regarding the safety of soccer due to the lack of prolonged exposure to any one person at any one time. The guidelines surrounding the games will help ensure that there is no prolonged exposure for those watching and participating. Tournaments and games have been going full speed ahead in many states including those with high infection rates like Texas. Yet, there have still been no alerts of community spread thru soccer as the safety measures around the games have kept everyone as safe as possible.
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Any tournaments there labor day weekend?
 
whatithink said:
I wonder if the teams are ECNL, and therefore not technically under local jurisdiction.
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They are sanctioned by US Soccer and US Soccer says...."These guidelines and best practices are intended for use WHEN AND IF your local authorities have deemed it safe to return to the practice field. U.S. Soccer is in no way endorsing holding practices or games in violation of any federal, state or local mandates."
 
suzysoccer1 said:
Fake ass tough guy soccer dad. Post your video then on YouTube if your so proud of it. Like I said only done for one reason, to get an advantage over others who aren’t playing for college coach recruiting video. Spare me the exercise excuse.

Fake ass tough guy soccer dad. Post your video then on YouTube and link it here if your so proud of it. But you won’t cause your afraid of what we all know, that the game was crap and not even worth posting it. Like I said only done for one reason, to get an advantage over others who aren’t playing for college coach recruiting video. Make sure you edit that film real right to avoid all those donkey touches tough guy. And spare me the exercise excuse.

and yes I have a life I’m just bored today, and your a dumbass so I’ve decided to do this until the Dodger game starts.
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Enjoy the anthem.
 
Hey Sheriff, you might be called upon to do your job and arrest me. Charges: PC 6969- Illegal use of park facilities. Second charge: Felony child endangerment. I plead the 5th.
 
Anon9 said:
Hey Sheriff, you might be called upon to do your job and arrest me. Charges: PC 6969- Illegal use of park facilities. Second charge: Felony child endangerment. I plead the 5th.
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That won't happen.

What might happen is the county could yank everyone's permits because teams like yours had to break the rules so flagrantly.

If that happens, I'd say parents of those kids have every right to hate you and your club.
 
SoccerGuru said:
No it was Blues. I don't actually know but all blues parents get so worked up if you say anything about the club, it's pretty funny. Even when it is true.
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I get worked up when Blues get dragged because my entire experience has been that the Blues follow the rules. Our team absolutely shut down when OC shut down. We started back up only when it re-opened. The Blues club made clear there was to be no training. So if a Blues team was scrimmaging it was a coach going rogue and ignoring the Blues leadership. Every Blues team I am aware of did not train. Slammers and West Coast however disregarded the orders and continued to train. I saw both of their clubs communications with their teams. So rather than attacking the Blues, which is popular on here, let's call out the single coach who did this. It was not a Blues violation. It was a specific coach. And, let's call out Slammers and West Coast for their utter disregard for the governor and Cal South's guidelines.
 
dad4 said:
Your child gets to play because the rules dont apply to you.

Fine. Don't be surprised when the scimmage gets recorded by someone else. After all, the rules dont apply to him.

Seems fair.
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Where is all the justice outrage when a 54 player “All Star Camp” is being held with 1v1 drills and video is on this forum? Are we just going after certain people? Is it for some but not others? Why is that?
 
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GT45 said:
I get worked up when Blues get dragged because my entire experience has been that the Blues follow the rules. Our team absolutely shut down when OC shut down. We started back up only when it re-opened. The Blues club made clear there was to be no training. So if a Blues team was scrimmaging it was a coach going rogue and ignoring the Blues leadership. Every Blues team I am aware of did not train. Slammers and West Coast however disregarded the orders and continued to train. I saw both of their clubs communications with their teams. So rather than attacking the Blues, which is popular on here, let's call out the single coach who did this. It was not a Blues violation. It was a specific coach. And, let's call out Slammers and West Coast for their utter disregard for the governor and Cal South's guidelines.
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I have been keeping my big mouth shut to let others rant and rave all their "woe is me." Let me try and speak some truth into this. Most coaches I know were 1099 private contractors and own a private soccer training biz on the side. Most coaches were laid off and are free to walk around a park and watch soccer games. Zebra could use a few bucks as well. I hear the girls and parents ((clubs are on pause)) have been trying to stay in shape and are the one's setting up the games. Big time games with big time players. My dd would love to play for the sake of balling and ganas play, but her old man said no because of perception and just wanting to obey the rules. Super super tempting, believe me but I fought off the temptations of soccer addiction I once had and I just said no. I like the drama that's unfolding and some club or group needs to challenge some of these lame rules for kids under 17. Dad or mom with health issues can't watch. It is what it is. Were back at the Great Park for 6 ft x 6ft social distance soccer tonight. Boring as hell but will see if that changes.
 
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Kicker4Life said:
Where is all the justice outrage when a 54 kocher “All Star Camp” is being held with 1v1 drills and video is on this forum? Are we just going after certain people? Is it for some but not others? Why is that?
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54 x $225 is a smart way to stay relevant in these tough times and help pay some bills. I see it as a win win for so many. Go Gaffer and all the goat all-stars.
 
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