The word we are getting is that the season is on in full but some games have been switched due to travel restrictions of some colleges. Football and basketball players already in town and soccer reports 1st of July for 7 day quarantine then "voluntary" work outs. If some states don't open, those games may be canceled as well.
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dk_b
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Definitely looking more promising now. And gotta believe that schools with football (esp power 5 w/solid TV contracts) will do everything they can to have those games - as @Dubs was suggesting - as that would be a huge budget loss (I wonder if it will destroy certain programs). The NCAA also is likely cr*pping in their pants - losing football revenue after losing March Madness . . . that would be an enormous hit to the bottom line. Maybe drop the football scholarship number from 63 (or whatever the # is) to, say, 50 (still would be 2-deep on O and D + 6 special teams or "other") and see how that impacts the budget.
eastbaysoccer
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agree that colleges cut football scholarships for 2-4 years and then reinstate them. However that would mean reducing the number of scholarships in womens sports too. Not a good time to be a sophomore or below when it comes to securing an athletic scholarship.
eastbaysoccer
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NEWS: SMU athletics is requiring all student-athletes to sign a COVID-19 waiver before returning for voluntary workouts.
It requires student-athletes to release SMU from future liability.
The Dallas Morning News obtained a copy of the contract.
So with that said, will colleges be liable for voluntary soccer team work outs if there is a COVID outbreak? We all know coaches organize this underground but say it’s “optional”. How would this play out in court? Clearly SMU has some concerns hence the waiver.
It requires student-athletes to release SMU from future liability.
The Dallas Morning News obtained a copy of the contract.
So with that said, will colleges be liable for voluntary soccer team work outs if there is a COVID outbreak? We all know coaches organize this underground but say it’s “optional”. How would this play out in court? Clearly SMU has some concerns hence the waiver.
In today’s litigious society does this surprise you?
Not one bit...clubs are doing it, businesses are doing it...the University’s can’t control what every student athlete does or for that matter what every student does on their own time, what the employees do, etc. It is an unreasonable expectation. The University’s and Athletic Programs are going to do their part with the correct protocols as best they can, it won’t be perfect, and their will be gaps, and yes some student/athletes will get infected. The fact is the kids don’t have to go to college or play college sports. Service providers and businesses can’t be responsible for Covid, the Flu, or anything of the like. The Federal, State, and Local Government is not responsible for Covid, the Flu, etc. If the young adult wants to participate they are going to have to roll the dice. I get people want somebody to be responsible if they or their loved one gets infected, but there really is not anybody to blame but yourself. If you want 100% assurance you will not catch Covid, stay isolated, do not interact with others, and bunker down. #hermitlife
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I've been rolling the dice my hole life. I jumped off a 70 foot cliff when I was 11 into the ocean. I was youngest ever at the Bay to do it. I rolled the dice hitch hiking and I swear one of those crazy killers in Socal picked me up when I was 14. Dude starting some crap on me and I jumped out on PCH, no joke. I roll the dice because that's life. Let's roll the dice and let the kiddos play some soccer. I like her chances in this roll.
MacDre
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I agree. But the “ambulance chaser” in me could have lots of fun playing with theories of negligence, misrepresentation, and fraud in the inducement if a clients kid gets sick. Has to be very scary times for youth sports.
I agree there will be “ambulance chasing”. It’s a shame. Only takes a few to bring it down for everyone. Costs go up, less opportunities as organizations and businesses need more to defend lawsuits or they won’t take the risk at all. I have never heard of anybody suing over catching the flu (Covid is obviously different and more dangerous), but who knows? I’m sure somebody will give it a go.
Don't forget, most of the D1 schools and many of the D2 and D3 schools have huge endowments. I don't see them back tracking too much on offers, they still need players if they have the sport. A lot of players might decommit if they do not get what was verbally offered because they need those resources to attend that university. It is going to be interesting to see what happens from the classroom to the field.
I've been advocating no GPA, no math outside of financial responsibility ((who was teaching that class to us in America?)) and SAT/ACT to determined ones self worth. Biggest BS taught to all of us.
dk_b
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Let's say there is no season for a team with a squad of 26 players - 8 frosh, 7 sophs, 6 jrs and 5 srs - and the NCAA permits the seniors to return even if they've already used a red shirt year and let's say 3 of those 5 choose to return and there is less attrition from the underclass players. Do the math - there just are not as many slots for a recruiting class of 8 players (or 5 or 12). It's a logjam that would be created so something would need to give.
As I have written, I hope it does not come to that as I hope there is a season (assuming it can be played safely).
Not sure the large endowments will matter as this will be a function of NCAA rules and then what a specific athletic department is permitted under its budget. With an academic year (at least the fall term) with fewer students enrolled, I'd expect budget shortfalls to be common and if institutions are dipping into their endowments, I don't imagine that athletic departments will be that high on the list of priorities (even if allowed), and certainly the minor sports will suffer more.
Simisoccerfan
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Having an Engineering Degree and being an Engineering Manager I can not disagree with you more about the no math requirement. It's not the actual math that is valuable, it is that you have proven the ability to master a difficult subject. It teaches how to solve complex problems and what is life but a complex problem?
Desert Hound
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It also allows one to understand that "free college, free healthcare" and other goodies offered up cannot possibly be free.
Math is very important.
Its the mistreatment and placement of kids when their young, especially rambunctious teenagers. math is important only to the ones it's important. it causes the most anxiety and stress on the average student and it makes many feel defeated and stupid all because some folks have to be an Engineer or a math teacher or a super smart geek. You will see exactly what I'm talking about very soon. These kids have been forced to go into debt and get out with a house payment and no house. Now, no job either. The days of, "you better go to college if you want to make something of yourself" is over everyone. It's now just one of many choices one can make. Choices is what this great country is about imo. I love college btw, just not the way it was sold to all of us.
dk_b
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I loved math as a teen but did not study in college (my degree is in the humanities and my graduate work did not require math). But I use math all the time. And when I cook with my kids, we use algebra all the time - you are constantly solving for "x" as you scale recipes (in fact, in my area of practice, I run capitalization models with different variables and am using math nearly every day). While I'd like my kids to learn the foundational properties of physics, chemistry and biology, I'd like them to have a very high fluency in math as that skill is practical to every day living.
I disagree with “math is only important to those it’s important to.” You NEED math in life. Big time. Like others have mentioned - mastering a difficult subject, problem solving, critical thinking, just the basics...The stress you mentioned gets amplified as they get older when they don’t have the basic tools/skills to figure out the time value of money, interest on a home or vehicle loan, how investments work...they can’t interpret data, the list goes on and on. Ignorance is the poorest of excuses. They are just kicking the can down the road and parents let them. These young adults will be unprepared, make poor financial decisions, and many can’t even understand the student loans they have taken out and the repayment model. I have nieces and nephews who fit this description to a T.
If they don’t want to deal with the concepts when it is time and they want to defer or ignore they shouldn’t complain when they don’t get the same opportunities others get. Math matters. You don’t have to like math, be good at it, or have it be your favorite subject. You just need to be committed to work on it (2020 Disclaimer...my underlying assumption is that the individual/situation I am describing has no mental hardships, learning disabilities, family problems, negative life events or the like. Don’t know who you will trigger these days).
What kind of Math Matters Big Time? Is their a level we can agree on at least for the average person not going to college or wants to do something in college that only basic math is required? Not all brains work well in math, you catch my drift? Just because one can read and write and count to 10 does not make them better then the other kids locked out of the system. I said this before and I wont say it again. The kind of basic math I'm promoting is how to save your money, how to protect yourself from scam artists and how to save some more money and balance a check book and work hard saving even more and not go into debt if at all possible.
Simisoccerfan
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By
Robert Longley
Updated October 20, 2019
How much more is higher education worth in cold hard money than a high school diploma? Plenty.
Men with a graduate degree earned more than $1.5 million in lifetime earnings than those with just a high school diploma, according to 2015 statistics from the Social Security Administration. Women earn $1.1 million more.
A previous report by U.S. Census Bureau titled "The Big Payoff: Educational Attainment and Synthetic Estimates of Work-Life Earnings" noted:
The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) figures from 2017 show median weekly wages progressively increasing with educational attainment:
"At most ages, more education equates with higher earnings, and the payoff is most notable at the highest educational levels," said Jennifer Cheeseman Day, co-author of the report.
Who Earns the Most?
It's not surprising that doctors and engineers do best. According to the BLS, anesthesiologists, surgeons, obstetrician-gynecologists, orthodontists, and psychiatrists all make well over $200,000 a year. Even general physicians, chief executives, dentists, nurse anesthetists, pilots and flight engineers, and petroleum engineers all make $175,000–$200,000.
Still in the six-figure category are: information system managers, podiatrists, architectural and engineering managers, marketing managers, financial managers, attorneys, sales managers, natural sciences managers, and compensation and benefits managers.
Of course, most people pursue their passion rather than the dollar when looking at career options, though earning potential is often a factor for many.
Robert Longley
Updated October 20, 2019
How much more is higher education worth in cold hard money than a high school diploma? Plenty.
Men with a graduate degree earned more than $1.5 million in lifetime earnings than those with just a high school diploma, according to 2015 statistics from the Social Security Administration. Women earn $1.1 million more.
A previous report by U.S. Census Bureau titled "The Big Payoff: Educational Attainment and Synthetic Estimates of Work-Life Earnings" noted:
The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) figures from 2017 show median weekly wages progressively increasing with educational attainment:
- Professional degree: $1,836
- Doctoral degree: $1,743
- Master's degree: $1,401
- Bachelor's degree: $1,173
- Associate's degree: $836
- Some college, no degree: $774
- High school diploma, no college: $712
- Less than a high school diploma: $520
"At most ages, more education equates with higher earnings, and the payoff is most notable at the highest educational levels," said Jennifer Cheeseman Day, co-author of the report.
Who Earns the Most?
It's not surprising that doctors and engineers do best. According to the BLS, anesthesiologists, surgeons, obstetrician-gynecologists, orthodontists, and psychiatrists all make well over $200,000 a year. Even general physicians, chief executives, dentists, nurse anesthetists, pilots and flight engineers, and petroleum engineers all make $175,000–$200,000.
Still in the six-figure category are: information system managers, podiatrists, architectural and engineering managers, marketing managers, financial managers, attorneys, sales managers, natural sciences managers, and compensation and benefits managers.
Of course, most people pursue their passion rather than the dollar when looking at career options, though earning potential is often a factor for many.
Simisoccerfan
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That is why math matters. You don't get any of those degrees without math.