Oh lord. Stop rationalizing. Claiming that 6 Quakes girls and 0 MVLA is “discriminatory”, and that “most”, but not all, of the Quakes girls should get called back by it’s very nature means that the guy doubts that Quakes girls deserved it.
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Oh lord. Stop rationalizing. Claiming that 6 Quakes girls and 0 MVLA is “discriminatory”, and that “most”, but not all, of the Quakes girls should get called back by it’s very nature means that the guy doubts that Quakes girls deserved it.
When you look at the roster for the Florida camp, the DA bias looks even worse. 4 ECNL players and 24 DA players. Every single ECNL player from the Florida camp made the final roster for England.
The YNT was essentially a DA all star team with a few ringers from ECNL.
Of course, making the DA all star team is one heck of an accomplishment. Those girls have every right to be proud.
But it is not a basis for DA/ECNL comparisons. Not that we need those anyway.
No comment......lol!!!! Bro, let it go......it's all over and it's time to look ahead to the future. Timing is everything on this planet and being at the right club at the right time made all the difference for many players. I'm happy for all who made The Lists over the last three years or so. It's a great accomplishment. Now, no more list for anyone with little U14 players whose parents are sold the chance to be on the U14 National team. That was not a fair process and frankly, was stupid to pitch that to us parents. The docs used it as way to manipulate families and boy, some of them did. It a business Kicker and we were in the middle of the market share war. Many clubs used the YNT carrot as way to entice players to their clubs from other clubs who were not invited to the GDA party. I watch one top goat after another leave their current club to go to GDA and The List. Now, some are going to ECNL and the exposure for what this has always been about. Access to college bro. Make the list, better access.
and then they tried to get some of the ECNL players over to GDA. That is fact. "Sally, you need to be over here where true world class development is taking place." Hog wash!!!
I’m not arguing the bias....actually somewhat supporting that it existed.....nothing to let go of.
I appreciate you finally somewhat supporting what I have been screaming about for three years....lol!!! It was used as a carrot and little girls with dreams got caught in the middle and that was wrong.
Never said otherwise, just said your experience wasn’t the same as most.
I was so naive I thought De Anza Force was the only top team in Norcal.....lol!! That was 2017 and how would I know what the soccer scene in Norcal was all about. So when I would brag about my dd old team beating those 6 YNT EQ players and their team and UCLA commits, I was sincere. The MLVA crowd came on here with video proof that they were better than Surf and they beat the Force all the time and they got zero for The List. It is what it is and I say who really gives a care anymore. Now I, just like Guru and I will pay for 20 minute halves in Ocenaside just so my dd can play again. I will stay home too. I will do just about anything to see my rocket play again. I dont care about the list and I really never did. I was just messying around 90% of the time and I saw all this three years ago. It was clear to me the kind of political game that needed to be played and I dont play that way with sports and I got out. I didn;t like the either or that was forced down her throat. Some clubs like Crossfire saw it too and they got out.
Yes! Absolutely discriminatory. USSF minced no words when they stated that they would pretty much only look at the DA players for these call ups. That was their f-ing pitch and bargaining chip against ECNL. They left off players from ECNL teams on purpose! I can't believe this discussion is happening again. It's not a knock on players that got selected, but it is a complete knock on the selection process being tainted by the dumb ass USSF running the DA.
I’m not questioning that US Soccer favored GDA players overall, just the weak sauce b.s. nonsense about how he’s not “doubting” the quakes players specifically deserved to play on the YNT, when it is clear that is exactly what he is doing. It seems to be a particular gift of NorCal people to rip on kids and refuse to accept responsibility for what they’re doing.
That is not how I took it and not sure why you are unless you are somehow directly effected by it. We're talking about two known quantities here (MVLA and Quakes). It's again not a knock on the kids, but the process isn't fair and as such there were deserving kids that didn't get called up because of this pissing match. If it was fair, this wouldn't even be up for discussion because no doubt there would be at least 1-2 MVLA kids on the roster.
I am also not questioning your lack of reading comprehension.
It's all pretty much politics by coaches, top to bottom. There are probably at least a dozen players across the country who could fill the spot of a YNT player. It's the way it has always been and the way it always will be.
I do not disagree.
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You are full of shit. My point was that there was discrimination, as evidenced by the lopsided number of players being called up to YNT camps, and that it could have easily been 3-3 or 4-2 instead of 6-0. Nobody is bashing the players, I was making a point that the YNT call-ups were based more on which club you played for than merit. Now we have an even playing field, so now these call-ups will be based solely on merit and not which league you play in.
Uh huh. Sure.
Soccerfan2
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U15 was 2 MVLA / 2 Quakes at the last camp.
Despite all kinds of people’s arguments to the contrary, my view is the bias happened when players were equivalent. Two similar players and the decision could go either way? Pick the DA kid. Now there is no DA so there won’t be that bias. There will still be the factor of how easily visible players are to scouts, and coach and club relationships will still influence decision making. I don’t think the tendency to see clusters of kids from clubs and geographical areas that are known hot spots will change. Most importantly there will always be more capable kids than spots. Why not focus one’s energy on being a clear, unambiguous standout vs looking in haystacks for evidence of possible discrimination?
shales1002
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The bias occurred based on the league SOLELY. It had nothing to do with equity. Hopefully they toss those best if GDA lists. If those players are deserving now that the field seems to be level , then so be it. Honestly , I know too many players that got the “We have to defer to our GDA players because they play in our league.“
As for discrimination, it did occur. Perhaps with the league gone, the best of the best will represent our country.