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Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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What age group is this happening?
 
Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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??? DA players can not play ECNL. ??? Do you mean for next year, DA players moving to ECNL?
 
ECNL and DA cannot play back and forth or "guest" back and forth but there is nothing preventing a player from leaving one league to be rostered on the other.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
Fake news...

2017/2018 GDA Facts (FT player stats) to date:
U16/17: 48% 2002+/52% 2001 (almost even)
U16/17: 48 min APT 2002+/47 min APT 2001 (wow - younger players average more play time)

U18/19: 78% 2000+/22% 1999 (younger player heavy)
U18/19: 47 min APT 2000+/ 46 min APT 1999 (again, younger players average more play time)

If I add DP players into the mix you will be even more wrong.
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Interesting numbers and I'm not arguing against them although they seem to differ from what I'm looking at on the DA roster sites for the limited teams I've looked at. So here are my questions?

1. Where did your information come from?
2. Is it based on all the Academies nationwide?
3. Is that the trend we are seeing here in So Cal? (I don't believe it is)
 
C.A.M. said:
Interesting numbers and I'm not arguing against them although they seem to differ from what I'm looking at on the DA roster sites for the limited teams I've looked at. So here are my questions?

1. Where did your information come from?
2. Is it based on all the Academies nationwide?
3. Is that the trend we are seeing here in So Cal? (I don't believe it is)
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1. US Soccer
2. Yes
3. Yes for all stats I provided except U-16/17 is older age heavy ;) 68%
 
LadiesMan217 said:
1. US Soccer
2. Yes
3. Yes for all stats I provided except U-16/17 is older age heavy ;) 68%
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Are you trying to suggest that So Cal DA rosters are mostly age-balanced by pointing to:

1) U16/17, an age group where 2001's take up 68% of the spots, and
2) U18/19, an age group where most '99s have graduated already?
 
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SocalPapa said:
Are you trying to suggest that So Cal DA rosters are mostly age-balanced by pointing to:

1) U16/17, an age group where 2001's take up 68% of the spots, and
2) U18/19, an age group where most '99s have graduated already?
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Yes would be the answer. I'm sure the numbers are even higher when we isolate So Cal, which is my concern. The 03's are going to have serious decisions on which league to play in if they don't make the DA group.
 
Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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What DA age group are they pulling players from? That means they have quit DA mid season since they can not play in another league.
 
C.A.M. said:
Yes would be the answer. I'm sure the numbers are even higher when we isolate So Cal, which is my concern. The 03's are going to have serious decisions on which league to play in if they don't make the DA group.
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This is isolating SoCal. LAFC, Beach, and Blues all follow the national trend. LAG (both), Surf, West Coast, Eagles are worse offenders (call them an ask them what's up). Again this is based on FT players. There suspected factors for the age heavy DA in SoCal are some clubs focusing on ECNL at lower age in bracket and DPL.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
This is isolating SoCal. LAFC, Beach, and Blues all follow the national trend. LAG (both), Surf, West Coast, Eagles are worse offenders (call them an ask them what's up). Again this is based on FT players. There suspected factors for the age heavy DA in SoCal are some clubs focusing on ECNL at lower age in bracket and DPL.
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Ummmmm....

So I didn't give false news.
 
C.A.M. said:
Yes would be the answer. I'm sure the numbers are even higher when we isolate So Cal, which is my concern. The 03's are going to have serious decisions on which league to play in if they don't make the DA group.
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A lot of rumors out there, there may be more changes coming, stay tuned.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
This is isolating SoCal. LAFC, Beach, and Blues all follow the national trend. LAG (both), Surf, West Coast, Eagles are worse offenders (call them an ask them what's up). Again this is based on FT players. There suspected factors for the age heavy DA in SoCal are some clubs focusing on ECNL at lower age in bracket and DPL.
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Blues doesn't follow the national trend. They aren't balanced. They decided to keep their 2002 and 2001 ECNL teams mostly in tact and make their former '02 SCDSL Champions team the core of the DA team. It should set them up well to have so many experienced 02 players with the 02/03 grouping next season. Take out Blues and your numbers get even worse.

Here are the starts by birth year for each U16/17 team. I don't know if you can call clubs "offenders" if pretty much everyone is doing it. Slammers and Beach are really the only balanced teams.

ALBION SC 253
2001 183
2002 70
BEACH FUTBOL CLUB 274
2001 136
2002 125
2003 13
EAGLES SOCCER CLUB 219
2001 188
2002 31
LA GALAXY 244
2001 224
2002 20
LA GALAXY SAN DIEGO 264
2001 225
2002 39
LAFC SLAMMERS 213
2001 102
2002 111
LEGENDS FC 243
2001 167
2002 68
2003 8
LOS ANGELES PREMIER FC 264
2001 202
2002 62
PATEADORES 260
2001 225
2002 35
REAL SO CAL 261
2001 188
2002 59
2004 14
SAN DIEGO SURF 241
2001 221
2002 20
SC DEL SOL 267
2001 199
2002 68
SO CAL BLUES SOCCER CLUB 275
2001 107
2002 168
WEST COAST FUTBOL CLUB 248
2001 209
2002 39

*Edited to correct the LAGSD numbers.
 
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SocalPapa said:
Blues doesn't follow the national trend. They aren't balanced. They decided to keep their 2002 and 2001 ECNL teams mostly in tact and make their former '02 SCDSL Champions team the core of the DA team. It should set them up well to have so many experienced 02 players with the 02/03 split next season. Take out Blues and your numbers get even worse.

Here are the starts by birth year for each U16/17 team. I don't know if you can call clubs "offenders" if pretty much everyone is doing it. Slammers and Beach are really the only balanced teams.

ALBION SC 253
2001 183
2002 70
BEACH FUTBOL CLUB 274
2001 136
2002 125
2003 13
EAGLES SOCCER CLUB 219
2001 188
2002 31
LA GALAXY 244
2001 224
2002 20
LA GALAXY SAN DIEGO 477
2001 327
2002 150
LAFC SLAMMERS 213
2001 102
2002 111
LEGENDS FC 243
2001 167
2002 68
2003 8
LOS ANGELES PREMIER FC 264
2001 202
2002 62
PATEADORES 260
2001 225
2002 35
REAL SO CAL 261
2001 188
2002 59
2004 14
SAN DIEGO SURF 241
2001 221
2002 20
SC DEL SOL 267
2001 199
2002 68
SO CAL BLUES SOCCER CLUB 275
2001 107
2002 168
WEST COAST FUTBOL CLUB 248
2001 209
2002 39
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Rumors abound, the 2018-2019 year will be crazy!
 
SocalPapa said:
Blues doesn't follow the national trend. They aren't balanced. They decided to keep their 2002 and 2001 ECNL teams mostly in tact and make their former '02 SCDSL Champions team the core of the DA team. It should set them up well to have so many experienced 02 players with the 02/03 grouping next season. Take out Blues and your numbers get even worse.

Here are the starts by birth year for each U16/17 team. I don't know if you can call clubs "offenders" if pretty much everyone is doing it. Slammers and Beach are really the only balanced teams.

ALBION SC 253
2001 183
2002 70
BEACH FUTBOL CLUB 274
2001 136
2002 125
2003 13
EAGLES SOCCER CLUB 219
2001 188
2002 31
LA GALAXY 244
2001 224
2002 20
LA GALAXY SAN DIEGO 264
2001 225
2002 39
LAFC SLAMMERS 213
2001 102
2002 111
LEGENDS FC 243
2001 167
2002 68
2003 8
LOS ANGELES PREMIER FC 264
2001 202
2002 62
PATEADORES 260
2001 225
2002 35
REAL SO CAL 261
2001 188
2002 59
2004 14
SAN DIEGO SURF 241
2001 221
2002 20
SC DEL SOL 267
2001 199
2002 68
SO CAL BLUES SOCCER CLUB 275
2001 107
2002 168
WEST COAST FUTBOL CLUB 248
2001 209
2002 39

*Edited to correct the LAGSD numbers.
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YIKES.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
YIKES.
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I just checked the 3 big Dallas clubs and they show the same trend. Wonder if this might be common to large urban areas. Perhaps areas with large talent pools are less likely to need '02s to fill out the rosters?

Total Starts:
DALLAS TEXANS 220
2001 190
2002 30
FC DALLAS 219
2001 184
2002 35
SOLAR SOCCER CLUB 209
2001 186
2002 23
 
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