Where was really the first covid case in the world?
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Chinese state media has been looking to find a way to blame someone else for a while now.
Part of that effort is denying WHO experts access to the lab and samples from wuhan. If you block access to early wuhan samples, other samples seem earlier in the timeline than they actually are. Then you find saps willing to push the non-wuhan narrative
Why do you say there is effort to deny WHO access? I never seen this in any news. In fact, what I read is they are inviting WHO to investigate the origin.
That's because you are behind the firewall, and I can read whatever I like.
proof that you read a lot of garbage with propaganda slant. You should have read it earlier then maybe you could have done some things to help?
I had ask this questions from my Chinese friends and none that I had encountered to date had known anyone that died during that time due to”famine”.
having info does not mean you will get good info. The clearest example is religion. Every street corner,every other channel is some religious channel about some guy who will come again from heaven to save us all. That alone is proof of how the majority of people believe in fiction. Religion is fiction. And if I have offended god,May he strike me down with a lightning or involve me in a deadly car crash. Bet you I will still alive this time next week. He can’t do anything to me.
The story Ma tells is convincing, and well documented.
Mao issued orders to boost grain production. It was impossible to meet the quotas. So the local governors lied about yields. Telling the truth would be unwise.
Because of the lies there was a lot of food- at least on paper. Food was centralized, leaving 30 million peasants to starve. Meanwhile Mao himself was getting fat on fried fish.
The same thing happened in Russia in the 1930s. And again in Cambodia in the 1970s.
I know this isn’t the story you hear in history class. Your schools pretend it didn’t happen.
Enjoy writing paid posts for President Pooh-Bear.
a Chinese bot in the off topic section of a regional soccer forum in a country that isn’t even a soccer power? Either Pooh has money to burn or someone’s going to wind up in a Uighur prison camp with a lot of explaining to do.
Do you have a better explanation for this thread?
Doesn't have to be a Uighur camp in Xin Jiang. Maybe he will end up in Qing Hai.
Right...and the reason is because when it comes to History of China we only covered the general ideas since it isnt history of our country.
When you study something, you always need to read it with a critical mind. Without a critical mind, you will end up getting brainwashed. You also need to learn many different languages, so that you can get your sources from many different viewpoints. If you only read English books, then you will just get an Anglo centric viewpoint of the world. Cuantos lenguajes puede hablar? 1? 2?
I hate to be going off topic here as I am more interested in the covid discussion but since you brought it up, remember, in the cold war and even up till today, the Capitalist nations are in a propaganda war against nations that has a potential to rise up and challenge them.
The ideological war of the cold war era is really a disguise for a war for supremacy. It continues to this day. Russia is still very much hated as in the cold war era even though the cold war is over and it is no longer communist. No it was no ideological war. They just didn't like the Russians because Russia was a threat.
Famines happened often in China even during the time of Imperial China and later when China was under the rule of the government in Taiwan. The famine that you mentioned had mistakes that were made, part of this was an experiment in communism. This was one of the early days of communism. There wasn't good enough resources then shelter any mishaps. Per capita income according to my source which I just googled says that it was $90 (GDP/capita) in China vs $3000 in USA at the time of the famine. Today it is at $12000 vs $70000. The average american was 33 times richer in 1960 and today is 6 times richer.
The question is is the book written as propaganda or was it written to help? Did these countries send food aid during the famine, or did they just hastily pulled out their typewriters to start discrediting communism and laugh at the situation?
Some of the goods of the legacy of that era that we should celebrate are:
1. State attempt to eliminate religion and superstition. I personally wished this had gone further. Religion is the root of a lot of evils.
2. It discarded such communal attempts. Now, it is going back to true Marx which is to embrace capitalism.
Since you didn't' learn this in your history class, Marx in his first chapter of his book Capital wrote that Capitalism is the best system to generate wealth in the form of an equation. Yes, you find that surprising huh that Marx said that?
In fact, in the long run, a nation needs to progress from Agrarian -> Industrialization -> Capitalism -> Socialism -> Communism.
Impressive......
Rassiyane veryat tolka v rodinu y Putinu. Rodina i religiya adno i tozhe.
Россияне верят только в родину и Путину. Родина и религия одно и тоже.
Do dad's now in mandarin characters.....
Simplified, please. I used pinyin, not zhuyin. I suspect our amigo is not from the country of Taiwan.
My study of Mandarin is limited to a few obscene words shown in our computer lab by a Taiwanese engineer who worked there. At our request, he drew the ideograms and then told us the literal English equivalents to the character fragments that made up the whole word -- things like "rice field common" and "into meat".
Yeah, if it's suppose to be Spanish or Portuguese or French or even Catalan it's done poorly and with errors. Can't speak to whether Esperanto, Italian, Romanian or Maltese was used.