Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.

espola said:
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International Chess Federation bans trans players from women’s events: ‘No right to participate’ ｜ New York Daily News

The International Chess Federation, or FIDE, has updated its policy on transgender players, effectively banning trans competitors from participating in official women’s tournaments. The world governing body for chess said its member federations have received an increasing number of recognition...
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Makes perfect sense. Male trannies aren't female and shouldn't be in the female categories.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
The question isn’t from where but why? Why the fixation on these obscure issues with only a handful of examples nationally?

And apparently laying out my opinion was meaningless to you as you continue to ramble on oblivious to any of that as you desperately seek a argument or is it just attention? Good luck with that.
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How do you conclude it’s “a handful” of examples?

It isn’t like most coaches have the spine to say “we decided to put a MTF trans athlete on the team”. They just do it, and hope no one is willing to raise a stink.

That’s dishonest. If you really believe the trans players are girls, then own it. Say “this is Samantha. She is a trans girl, and she’ll be joining our team.”

Then deal with the consequences when people quit because you just gave Susan’s spot to a boy.
 
dad4 said:
How do you conclude it’s “a handful” of examples?

It isn’t like most coaches have the spine to say “we decided to put a MTF trans athlete on the team”. They just do it, and hope no one is willing to raise a stink.

That’s dishonest. If you really believe the trans players are girls, then own it. Say “this is Samantha. She is a trans girl, and she’ll be joining our team.”

Then deal with the consequences when people quit because you just gave Susan’s spot to a boy.
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I have addressed that issue. Go ahead and research the thread or like some of these others just keep accusing posters of things they have never endorsed or have actually clarified their opinion to the opposite.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
I have addressed that issue. Go ahead and research the thread or like some of these others just keep accusing posters of things they have never endorsed or have actually clarified their opinion to the opposite.
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This thread is clogged with nonsense. No one in their right mind would "research" this thread.

Realistically, it is a moderate number of athletes, and they are disproportionately likely to be in high level leagues.
 
Decent article summarizing the physiology of hormone replacement, and the resulting impact on sport:

Transwoman Elite Athletes: Their Extra Percentage Relative to Female Physiology - PMC (nih.gov)

From the conclusion:

"Testosterone drives much of the enhanced athletic performance of males through in utero, early life, and adult exposure. Many anatomical sex differences driven by testosterone are not reversible. Hemoglobin levels and muscle mass are sensitive to adult life testosterone levels, with hemoglobin being the most responsive. Studies in transgender women, and androgen-deprivation treated cancer patients, show muscle mass is retained for many months, even years, and that co-comittant exercise mitigates muscle loss. Given that sports are currently segregated into male and female divisions because of superior male athletic performance, and that estrogen therapy will not reverse most athletic performance parameters, it follows that transgender women will enter the female division with an inherent advantage because of their prior male physiology. "
 
dad4 said:
Decent article summarizing the physiology of hormone replacement, and the resulting impact on sport:

Transwoman Elite Athletes: Their Extra Percentage Relative to Female Physiology - PMC (nih.gov)

From the conclusion:

"Testosterone drives much of the enhanced athletic performance of males through in utero, early life, and adult exposure. Many anatomical sex differences driven by testosterone are not reversible. Hemoglobin levels and muscle mass are sensitive to adult life testosterone levels, with hemoglobin being the most responsive. Studies in transgender women, and androgen-deprivation treated cancer patients, show muscle mass is retained for many months, even years, and that co-comittant exercise mitigates muscle loss. Given that sports are currently segregated into male and female divisions because of superior male athletic performance, and that estrogen therapy will not reverse most athletic performance parameters, it follows that transgender women will enter the female division with an inherent advantage because of their prior male physiology. "
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On a side note, looks like Corona is making big comeback just in time for the Fall. I'm hearing mask mandate is coming back and boosters for all. On a second side note, please be careful today with Hurricane Hilary. She is pissed off and barreling towards Socal as I write. Regardless of our differences, be safe Dad.
 
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