D1 college soccer under threat

Ellejustus said:
I was born by accident and all before 1972. Thank God I was protected by a loving adopted mother who told me I was her special blessing and that God wanted me to live for some crazy reason and she was picked to help me navigate this place. Lester makes it sound like Macdre chose his entry, his parents and the two strikes he woke up with before he came out of the womb. This is called, "look at both sides and make peace with the right and left or I will got to Montana and sit this one out. My gosh, share folks!!! Way too deep for the Either OR crowd on here. Conservative or Socialist? Can we meet in the middle guys? Stop being so Black & White, Rich or Poor and so on.
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What are you babbling about, Spicoli? I suggested Dre chose his upbringing? How so? And what is this "God wanted me to live" nonsense? Apparently some human that gave birth or adopted you, or both, wanted you to live. If they didn't, you'd have died. God or no God.
 
The Outlaw said:
Why can they not get full time jobs with benefits? Or one of them? And yeah... not doing drugs would be a good idea. There are a ton of places where apartments exist next to better schools. All over NorCal. You have to live where you can afford to live. Telling me there was a time where black kids couldn't attend white schools has nothing to do with today. Dre here is a prime example. No father. Really? And why not? Is that a systemic failure or a character failure? Second, mom is a drug addict. Well, you don't become a drug addict unless you do drugs (sans being born into it and apparently Dre overcame it). Make better choices, right? Home loans are offered to people that offer a low risk opportunity. Simple. Doesn't matter who you are, does it? Is it still 1970? "Still being felt today" is a mindset. I don't agree with Kanye West on much... but I do there.
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You don’t have a clue. I don’t have the energy to keep explaining. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t force it to drink. I get it. I also love your input because it helps me assess the obstacles that I have to negotiate.
I will show you better than I can tell you. I’m determined. No need for further pontification.
 
MacDre said:
You don’t have a clue. I don’t have the energy to keep explaining. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t force it to drink. I get it. I also love your input because it helps me assess the obstacles that I have to negotiate.
I will show you better than I can tell you. I’m determined. No need for further pontification.
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Unfortunately, that's what I thought. You don't want to talk about drug use and fathers not sticking around to raise their kids. I commend you for your overcoming such obstacles, sincerely, but I'm not surprised you are choosing to walk away from the facts. You haven't explained anything other than the lack of accountability and honesty makes things uncomfortable for certain people. Because what I'm hearing is that the systematic oppression that held you back had nothing to do with anything other than your personal situation.
 
The Outlaw said:
That's fine that you did but you're 1 example. Which of my statements is/are untrue and why?
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I wanted to join my neighborhood gang but they wouldn’t let me. I was very rebellious. I’m glad I crossed the path of people more compassionate than you or I’d probably still be in jail.
 
MacDre said:
I wanted to join my neighborhood gang but they wouldn’t let me. I was very rebellious. I’m glad I crossed the path of people more compassionate than you or I’d probably still be in jail.
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Why should I be compassionate towards someone that wants to join a gang and violate the rights of others?
 
The Outlaw said:
Unfortunately, that's what I thought. You don't want to talk about drug use and fathers not sticking around to raise their kids. I commend you for your overcoming such obstacles, sincerely, but I'm not surprised you are choosing to walk away from the facts. You haven't explained anything other than the lack of accountability and honesty makes things uncomfortable for certain people. Because what I'm hearing is that the systematic oppression that held you back had nothing to do with anything other than your personal situation.
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Statistically speaking drug use and abuse is more prevalent in other more affluent communities. The issues of broken homes is directly related to slavery, mass incarceration, and several other policies.
I think my families life is a good example of systemic oppression but I’m trying to stay on topic.
 
MacDre said:
Statistically speaking drug use and abuse is more prevalent in other more affluent communities. The issues of broken homes is directly related to slavery, mass incarceration, and several other policies.
I think my families life is a good example of systemic oppression but I’m trying to stay on topic.
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So your father didn't stick around because of slavery and mass incarceration?
 
MacDre said:
That’s not what I wanted. I wanted to be loved. I wanted to be a part of something. I was a kid.
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But you're blaming that on everything other than your parents. Are you not? How is that someone else's fault? And frankly, if you look to gangs for love and acceptance, why would someone you victimize show you compassion?
 
MacDre said:
Yes, they’re contributing factors.
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How would slavery, that happened generations ago, prevent a man from staying around to raise his kids? Was your father or his father a slave?

I get it if he was locked up... but then I'd ask you why he was locked up and you might not want to share that.
 
The Outlaw said:
But you're blaming that on everything other than your parents. Are you not? How is that someone else's fault? And frankly, if you look to gangs for love and acceptance, why would someone you victimize show you compassion?
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Who did I victimize? You’re making assumptions? Adolescent kids do dumb shit everywhere.
I was actually very angry until I looked closely at my family history and realized my family hadn’t recovered from the trauma of slavery and that slavery was not long ago.
 
The Outlaw said:
How would slavery, that happened generations ago, prevent a man from staying around to raise his kids? Was your father or his father a slave?

I get it if he was locked up... but then I'd ask you why he was locked up and you might not want to share that.
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Yes, kind of but I’ve already explained it on this board before. You don’t get it and that’s okay.
 
MacDre said:
Who did I victimize? You’re making assumptions? Adolescent kids do dumb shit everywhere.
I was actually very angry until I looked closely at my family history and realized my family hadn’t recovered from the trauma of slavery and that slavery was not long ago.
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How are you traumatized by something that happened well before you were born? Again, you're telling me that prevented someone from sticking around to raise their kids? Really?
 
The Outlaw said:
How are you traumatized by something that happened well before you were born? Again, you're telling me that prevented someone from sticking around to raise their kids? Really?
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How do you think being raised by a kid that was traumatized by human trafficking and no resources impacts a kids trajectory?
 
MacDre said:
Who did I victimize? You’re making assumptions? Adolescent kids do dumb shit everywhere.
I was actually very angry until I looked closely at my family history and realized my family hadn’t recovered from the trauma of slavery and that slavery was not long ago.
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Gangs victimize people. I'm not aware of any charity work they do. Most kids do dumb shit but it doesn't usually involve robbing people or beating the shit out of innocent folks minding their business.
 
MacDre said:
How do you think being raised by a kid that was traumatized by human trafficking and no resources impacts a kids trajectory?
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Are we talking about your mother or father? I know lots of kids that were raised by abusive alcoholics that smacked their wives around. The kids became great parents that didn't want to fuck their kids up.
 
The Outlaw said:
Are we talking about your mother or father? I know lots of kids that were raised by abusive alcoholics that smacked their wives around. The kids became great parents that didn't want to fuck their kids up.
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I’m talking about my grandma. She was freed from slavery approximately 100 years before I was born. She was 13 and had already been raped and had a biracial child. No money. No education. No property. Unjust laws. So still in de facto slavery after the abolition of slavery. Her day to day didn’t change and she had over 20 kids and not by choice. How long for her offspring to recover in your opinion? Please be specific. Give me a timeline.
 
The Outlaw said:
And what is this "God wanted me to live" nonssense
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Lester, go read again my story. My mother told me I was a blessing from God and their is a purpose for me and so on. I din;t say that. I have no idea why I'm here. I'm just here talking to you. I will tell my mom what you said. She will get a good laugh from it :)
 
MacDre said:
I’m talking about my grandma. She was freed from slavery approximately 100 years before I was born. She was 13 and had already been raped and had a biracial child. No money. No education. No property. Unjust laws. So still in de facto slavery after the abolition of slavery. Her day to day didn’t change and she had over 20 kids and not by choice. How long for her offspring to recover in your opinion? Please be specific. Give me a timeline.
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I fail to see the correlation between her horrendous life and any opportunities you feel society cheated you out of. Furthermore, though it's not my place to produce a "timeline", nothing would stop me from doing whatever it took to stay home and raise my children. My grandfather was also the product of a rape, adopted and in no way, shape or form did that have any impact on my father... let alone me.
 
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