Bruddah IZ
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You two non-scientist crack me up with your origin smokescreen.
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Bruddah IZ
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And WTF is Lebron in Space Jam now?
Desert Hound
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"The most recent Kaiser poll helps illustrate that the vaccine hesitant group doesn't really lean Republican. Just 20% of the group called themselves Republican with an additional 19% being independents who leaned Republican. The clear majority (61%) were not Republicans (41% said they were Democrats or Democratic leaning independents and 20% were either pure independents or undesignated)."
Next paragraph --
"This is very much unlike the vaccine resistant group, of whom 55% are Republican or Republican leaning independents. Just 21% of that group are Democrats or Democratic leaning independents."
Why politicians won't reach the vaccine hesitant | CNN Politics
A look at the data reveals that the vaccine hesitant group, however, are not big Trump lovers. They're actually likely not to be Republican. Instead, many of them are people who are detached from the political process & didn't vote for Biden or Trump
www.cnn.com
"Critical race theory is an academic concept that is more than 40 years old. The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies.
The basic tenets of critical race theory, or CRT, emerged out of a framework for legal analysis in the late 1970s and early 1980s created by legal scholars Derrick Bell, Kimberlé Crenshaw, and Richard Delgado, among others."
Things are great in Australia.....
www.worldometers.info
Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Australia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Scientist warns
Dr Colin Axon warned some cloth masks have gaps that are invisible to the naked eye, but are 5000 times the size of viral Covid particles
www.telegraph.co.uk
What, is it still April 2020 on your planet?Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Scientist warns
Dr Colin Axon warned some cloth masks have gaps that are invisible to the naked eye, but are 5000 times the size of viral Covid particles
Nice to see that you found a new unqualified person to spout the misinformation this time. This one is a Senior Lecturer in Mechanical Engineering. Not even a professor, and talking well outside his field at that.
Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Scientist warns
Dr Colin Axon warned some cloth masks have gaps that are invisible to the naked eye, but are 5000 times the size of viral Covid particles
Paywall.
What does it say?
Here is a more up-to-date analysis from SAGE --
EvilGoalie 21
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Unhappily, it was always going to be the case that getting 2020 America to implement an effective mask strategy would turn out a bit like the night Bob Altemeyer seeded a bunch of high scoring RWAs into the Global Change Game.
1. You yourself have conceded cloth masks aren’t as good as the other masks which is basically what he’s saying
2. If you have it your way and masks were instrumental in keeping Asia under control they don’t seem to be doing as good of a job anymore
3. He makes the point that once the particle leaves the body it’s no longer a medical point but a physics problem. To some extent he is correct in this. The medical people who have been advising on this can help define the particle and how it presents once it’s left the body but not how the physics affect it or the masks afterwards
4. He has been retained by industry and the uk government to consult on this so he is presumably a qualified expert. The medical professionals advising on other than the structure of particles leaving the body are not experts on this.
I assume this makes sense to you, but not to me. Perhaps I should surrender and pay up at the paywall.
He never makes it clear to the physics. He is still measuring the size of the virus. Wrong question. It completely ignores the fact that the tiny virus is inside a considerably larger water aerosol. It’s like saying a sailboat can get under the bridge because the passengers are so short.
If you want a good analysis of the physics of breath, go back to your MIT study.
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Cloth face masks are 'comfort blankets' that do little to curb Covid spread, Scientist warns
Dr Colin Axon warned some cloth masks have gaps that are invisible to the naked eye, but are 5000 times the size of viral Covid particles
I have to admit that Dr. Axon is about the coolest name ever. And its an opinion piece not a refereed article. BUT, if it WERE refereed it would have been fun ever to write a review that goes something like this.
Aerosols-ols-ols
Gives us that nice hydration
For epithelial penetration
But particle size
Goes up
Exponentially
Oh yeah.
I gotta be in a cell or water
Or denaturation
Leads to
My slaughter
So, Axon don’t take
My aerosols
Away from me.
EvilGoalie 21
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Argghhh. You beat me to it. And yours is more helpful. Also, wouldn't this ground have been pretty well tread (trod?) over about 200 pages ago?
Fair critique but are you saying the aerosolized ratio of virus to aerosolized particle is 1:500,000? That’s just not consistent with the other data on cloth masks that they simply don’t work as well as the surgical which the article points out also has a smaller ratio
More mask news. Nevada southern district health which governs Las Vegas has reimposed the mask mandate. It does not presently apply to the casinos which would have to be mandated by the gaming commission. But the pressure to do so will be severe.
Anyone wanna start a pool for how long before New York and NorCal reimpose?
Anyone wanna start a pool for how long before New York and NorCal reimpose?
Saw a graph on the cdc site. If I can find it again I’ll post it. 67% of Asian Americans have gotten at least 1 covid jab. Hispanics running slightly under other at the low 40%. African Americans were the lowest vaccinated group by race at under 40% about 1/3. In the South African Americans aren’t voting overwhelming Republican.
Not really about size at all. My current belief is that the main benefit of a mask is that it slows your breath, giving the infected air time to diffuse and rise before it reaches the next person.
Hard to measure that in a lab, though. You would need something like the experiment with two mannequin heads, but in a large room and using warm, moist air.
Large room, so the exhalations have room to diffuse. Warm air, because breath is warm and rises. Moist air, because some masks have hydrophilic fibers and some do not.
My guess is even a bandana has a significant impact at slowing your breath, though it is not a very good filter.