2005 DA Standings

Not taken Soccer is a full year sport at Mater Dei not just winter my friend ,they start with scrimmages beginning of next month oct 4 to exact
 
ok, who need needs to do what for whom for details on the SD Surf/LAFC match?

per game report, looks like both sides subbed out starters earlier than one might expect. three cards given. game report said LAFC had seven staff present... expected a lot more fireworks. did SD Surf bunker?
 
here's actuals vs predicts for this last weekend (9/21/19) home team is listed first. one at a glance takeaway is that there's maybe a lot of parity this year. LAFC might be the one exception but should make for an interesting season for the rest of the group.

one backdrop/context is that USSDA recently grouped the u19s into tier 1 and tier 2 (all mls teams have been initially grouped into tier 1) and said that they were looking to extend this tiering into the younger age groups next season, so results may matter a lot more this season. Does anyone have any additional news/insight/updates on this?

predict: Crossfire Premier 3 vs Real SoCal 0. Actuals: Crossfire Premier 2 vs Real SoCal 2
note: per the game report, looks like a fun match. RSC went up early 1-0 at the five minute mark but xfire tied so 1-1 at half. Three yellow in the 2nd half. xfire went ahead 2-1 at the 56th minute but RSC tied at the 80th for the final 2-2 result. of note, xfire's 04 player (each u15 team is allowed two 04 players on its game day roster but only some teams take advantage of this rule) accounted for both xfire goals. two decent results for RSC against very solid teams (RSC tied Strikers last week 1-1). it's early, but the first two results bode well for RSC.

predict: Real Salt Lake 1 vs Seattle Sounders 2. Actuals: Real Salt Lake 1 vs Seattle Sounders 1
note: decent result for RSL. RSL is about about 50% brand new w/ some strong new players but still seems like they should be doing better - and playing more dynamically - than they have been. maybe an unrealistic expectation but RSL still has some latent offensive firepower than hasn't really manifested yet. Sounders are strong, maybe a bit better than LAG.

predict: Nomads 2 vs Albion 2. Actuals: Nomads 4 vs Albion 2
note: decent result for the Nomads. per the game report, match started fast and furious with Nomads getting two quick ones in the first five minutes but Albion responded at about the 10th minute to make the score 2-1 and then picked up a yellow about five minutes later. Things settled down after that and the score was still 2-1 at half. Nomads pick up two more later to make it 4-1 but Albion got one back at the 7th minute for what was the final result of 4-2 Nomads.

predict: Arsenal 3 vs Breakers 1. Actuals: Arsenal 1 vs Breakers 0
note: here's commentary from Benchwarmer (thx!): "Decent game, breakers actually scored at the end of the 1st half but was taken away by offsides call. Arsenal scored on a set play in 2nd half"

predict: LAFC 4 vs SD Surf 0. Actuals: LAFC 0 vs SD Surf 0
note: As a reminder, SD Surf lost 10 starters from last season plus their coach - BD - left 2/3's of the season to got to LAFC.. Game report says that seven LAFc staff were present at the match but not BD. On the soccer side, the game report says that there were three yellows but that's not unusual at this age level. At first glance, it looks like there were some odd substitutions by both teams with players who might be expected to go a full 80 in a match like this being subbed out.

would have thought that LAFC might have gone stronger to make statement win but without having seen the match it's tough to tell how it went.

Got an offline DM with more details... Sounds like SD Surf bunkered and din't get a shot off the whole game. XG played decent but is stuck in a tough situation without a lot of the kind of help he is used since so many SD Surf players from last season left. (also, XG's dad is the team coach). On the LAFC side, it sounds like they took this one for granted and played lackadaisically. Strong statement to make about a very good team, but it's also not the first time these LAFC boys have dipped like this.

Anyone have other commentary/insights here? either for post or dm?

predict: Ballistic 2 vs LAGSD 2 Actuals: Ballistic 1 vs LAGSD 2
note: socal for the win! per the game report, it looks like LAGSD had this match in hand most of the way with Ballistic only getting their goal from a LAGSD own goal mistake.

Anyone have commentary/insights here?

predict: Sacramento Republic 1 vs San Jose Earthquakes 2 Actuals: Sacramento Republic 0 vs San Jose Earthquakes 0
note: this is a norcal match but am tracking since the algo needs the data. result will be a good indicator to socal team about which of these teams is the best. for reference, this one is like LAFC vs LAG or Strikers vs SD Surf down here.

predict: TFA 1 vs LA Galaxy 3. Actuals: TFA 1 vs LA Galaxy 1
note: as a reminder, TFA lost 12 rostered 2018-19 players coming into the 2019-20 season. so 2019-20 TFA is not 2018-19 TFA. by comparison, LAG, after churning 50% of their roster in 2018-19, only churned 3-4 players this season.

so, very solid result by TFA given their roster changes. per the game report, it was 0-0 at half. LAG scored first in the 2nd half and had two yellows. interestingly, TFA had no yellow for the game, which is unusual for this age group and also in match that presumably was meaningful for TFA. TFA tied it at the 80th minute for the final 1-1 result.

Some might take this match as evidence that the chatter about LAG underperforming has some basis, and certainly all things being equal, these last three LAG results would tend to support that.

However, there has also been a lot of regime change at LAG and they still seem to be sorting things out. Looking at the sub patterns from the game reports seems to indicate that LAG is seeing who can do what. Have never been the LAG apologist, but it feels like LAG's performance in November-ish may be more indicative of the team's strength than right now.

predict: LAUFA 2 FC Golden State 3. Actuals: LAUFA 0 FC Golden State 3
note: solid match by FCG. VM - an add this season from TFA - had two for FCG and has five goals in four matches this year. FCG could be a team to watch this year.

predict: Barca 3 vs Strikers 1. Actuals: Barca 1 vs Strikers 1 (algo was right; human error adjusted the predict to 3-1, alas)
note: "algo had this one at 1-1, but best guess is 3-1 Barca" = famous last words...

was looking forward to see how this match player out. Barca added 11 DA players - including four from SD Surf and two from TFA - to a roster that already included the #1 05 player in the country (per TDS). meanwhile, Strikers lost one of their leading scorers to LAFC and another top 05 - FJ - signed a pro contract with a USL team (although he's still rostered w/ the 05s)

Both teams were playing to win this one with a relatively few subs (per the game report, Barca had ten staff at the match) and the two goals both came after the 75the minute in what looks was a hard fought match. Strikers had two late yellows.

For the interested SoCal folks, three SD Surf players played 237 out of 240 possible minutes but one of the SD Surf players only played three minutes. On the TFA side, the two TFA players played 146 out of a possible 160 minutes.

any commentary/insight on this one?

predict: Vancouver Whitecaps 4 vs. Portland Timbers 4. Actuals: pending

predict: TFA 2 vs Arsenal 1. Actuals: TFA 1 vs Arsenal 1
note: here's commentary from Benchwarmer (thx and thx again for both Arsenal match results): "TFA came out guns blazing missing two really good opportunities to start the game. Good goalkeeping has solidified the teams defense. TFA scores 1st in 2nd half and arsenal tied up the score before the end of game."
 
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Crossfire vs. RSC - RSC scored on a throw-in with less then 10 seconds left in stoppage - there was some controversy, as XFire players were claiming a handball - all in all a relativily even match - XFire was missing one of their top midfielders due to illness (the other 04), and their top striker was late for the match and did not enter the game until mid second half.. Xfire was the better team, prob 1-1.5 goals better.
 
Arsenal 1 breakers 0
Decent game, breakers actually scored at the end of the 1st half but was taken away by offsides call. Arsenal scored on a set play in 2nd half

Arsenal 1 TFA 1
TFA came out guns blazing missing two really good opportunities to start the game. Good goalkeeping has solidified the teams defense. TFA scores 1st in 2nd half and arsenal tied up the score before the end of game.
 
DosEquisGuy said:
typo on Kante's post - LAFC nil - surf nil
actually makes the argument for even more parity in the league
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thanks for the catch. correction made.

not sure though about the LAFC/SD Surf result = more evidence of parity (although plenty evidence for parity from the other matches).

any thoughts from folks who were at the LAFC/SD Surf match? sub patterns, for example, were odd imo.

if folks have any commentary/insights, please post or dm.
 
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Ozzie said:
Crossfire vs. RSC - RSC scored on a throw-in with less then 10 seconds left in stoppage - there was some controversy, as XFire players were claiming a handball - all in all a relativily even match - XFire was missing one of their top midfielders due to illness (the other 04), and their top striker was late for the match and did not enter the game until mid second half.. Xfire was the better team, prob 1-1.5 goals better.
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awesome. thanks! any comments on how RSC got their first goal?
 
enrique said:
Not taken Soccer is a full year sport at Mater Dei not just winter my friend ,they start with scrimmages beginning of next month oct 4 to exact
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two Strikers DA players are listed on the Mater Dei Varsity 2019-20 roster - FR and KS. presumably there's an understanding between the Strikers and MD that wasn't there w/ LAG (most of the rest of the MD roster is either pateadores or strikers). DA does provide an exception to allow DA players to play private school high school soccer where the student/player is on a sports scholarship to the school. here's link to the roster - https://www.materdeiathletics.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=452865&type=d&pREC_ID=1049778
 
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predict: Real Salt Lake 1 vs Seattle Sounders 2. Actuals: Real Salt Lake 1 vs Seattle Sounders 1
note: decent result for RSL. RSL is about about 50% brand new w/ some strong new players but still seems like they should be doing better - and playing more dynamically - than they have been. maybe an unrealistic expectation but RSL still has some latent offensive firepower than hasn't really manifested yet. Sounders are strong, maybe a bit better than LAG.
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RSL scored first on a header off a corner kick, Sounders countered with a goal off a sequence of 6-7 passes. Sounders played down a man for about half of the second period due to an injury. RSL defended well at the last line of defense to prevent more goals.
 
Husky13 said:
RSL scored first on a header off a corner kick, Sounders countered with a goal off a sequence of 6-7 passes. Sounders played down a man for about half of the second period due to an injury. RSL defended well at the last line of defense to prevent more goals.
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thx for this. saw the 2nd half, and here's two cents on that half.

would say you're being generous to RSL, particularly since they were a man up for a period of time.

Sounders had the ball in RSL's half most of the time - despite being a man down for some of the time - but couldn't quite get that quality opportunity needed to put one more in. Seemed like more patience by the Sounders was needed to work the ball back into the middle and get better quality/higher likelihood chances.

Thought the RSL backline/goalie were decent, bent but didn't break, and did a good job of clogging the middle/pushing the Sounders to the outside for lower % oppty's.

Sounders size (and resulting speed due to length of stride), and physical play was a problem for RSL, and Sounders consistently closed out quickly to keep RSL from putting together passes.

looked like RSL needs faster ball movement/better first touch/better movement off the ball if they're going to expect to win matches against teams like the Sounders.

(u15 is the last age group where there's a really significant gap in physical size due to age/early development, and teams like the Sounders can make the field seem really small. best way to compensate is to move the ball quickly and look to unbalance (to be fair, not a rocket science type of insight this, and easier said than done). if this doesn't happen, the physically larger team will overwhelm/dominate the field of play.)

There were a couple of oppty's RSL had to counter but they were never able to get adequate numbers because most RSL players had dropped back to defend.

The couple of times that RSL opened play up a bit were when they started to get the ball to their right wing. he looks left footed but only inverted once and that directly led to one of RSL's only shots on target. RSL probably needs to consciously do more on that side since the ball didn't seem like it got to the right wing that much.

Overall, Sounders looked tough and played well, and their size and speed - combined with solid play - will get them by most u15 teams but will be interesting to see how they do against a team like LAFC if LAFC is firing on all cylinders. Not sure Sounders will see much West Coast competition outside of LAFC though.

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here's predicts for this weekend (9/28/19). home team is listed first.

The algo is starting to get dialed in w/ the two big outliers from last week - xfire vs rsc and LAFC vs SD Surf - having reasonable explanations. xfire was missing two key players, and SD Surf bunkered. the algo should have better accuracy this week.

SoCal Games
De Anza 2 vs Pateadores 1
note: both teams lost recently 0-5 to LAFC, but De Anza is a top third of the table team for norcal while Pats are likely a mid or bottom third of the table for socal. am rooting for the Pats to show represent for socal and this match will be a good meter of having the two regions match up.

San Jose Quakes 1 vs San Diego Surf 1
note: results here depend heavily on SD Surf tactics. per multiple reports, SD Surf bunkered against LAFC and likely did not get a shot off. If they do so again (and one might point out that, last year or the year before when SD Surf had a stronger team, teams rarely bunkered against SD Surf), the algo will catch up and start accounting for the tactic in another couple of games, but it will make accurate predicts difficult in the near term. if SD Surf does not bunker, SJ likely wins 3-1 with the the one SD Surf goal being scored on a counter by TW.

Nomads 3 vs Arsenal 1

Albion 3 vs TFA 4

LAGSD 2 vs LAUFA 1

Sacramento Republic 1 vs LA Galaxy 1 - match to watch
note: so far this season, LAG has been a riddle wrapped in an enigma. per the game reports, it looks like they're still tinkering with their game day roster and starting xi. also, new coaches and new academy regime.

By most accounts, the LAG players individually are greater quality than the sum of what's showing up for team results, but maybe not. The algo has this match as a tie but LAG should win. LAFC beat Sacramento 6-1 so that's the measuring stick. Let's see what you got LAG.

FC Golden State 1 vs LAFC 3

De Anza 1 vs LA Galaxy 2
note: interesting output here. anecdotal reports have De Anza as a stronger team than Sacramento but we'll see.

Real SoCal 1 vs Strikers 1 - match to watch
note: algo has a tie but with the edge to RSC, but the Strikers are a prideful team, and having to be satisfied with tie because RSC grabbed a late goal will likely not sit well. having said that, RSC has bigger ambitions this year, has two decent results in DA cup play so far and likely will also be up for the match. Should be fun to watch.

Sacramento Republic 2 vs Pateadores 1

Non-SoCal Games (for reference)
Vancouver Whitecaps 3 vs Real Salt Lake 8
Ballistic 1 vs SVSA 2
Portland Timbers 1 vs Real Colorado 2
Seattle Sounders 3 vs Colorado Rapids 1
Portland Timbers 1 vs Colorado Rapids 3
Seattle Sounders 4 vs Real Colorado 1



 
LAG 2-2 vs SAC Republic
LAG Played last20- 25 mins with 10 players
Bad referees
Group also dealing with Injuries

We’ll see tomorrow vs De Anza
How they regroup
 
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