Yes soccer is back on...

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In LA & OC, counties at least.

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If competition for high- and moderate-contact sports is permitted to resume in a county pursuant to this updated guidance, competition is not required to cease if the county's adjusted case rate exceeds the 14 per 100,000 threshold.

No stopping us now, let's play!
 
Cal South issued a statement. It does not include mention of testing requrements (so they seem to be interpreting the list as an "and" instead of an "or").
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Dear Cal South Affiliates,

Cal South is very pleased to note the California Department of Public Health's release of the subject guidance regarding outdoor and indoor youth and adult sports. This represents an important step forward for our community in incrementally allowing return to competition. We emphasize that Cal South is committed to creating and maintaining a safe playing environment. Adherence to the Cal South Return-to-Play Guidelines requires a cooperative relationship between leagues/clubs, coaches, team officials and administrators, players (including parents/guardians), and referees to ensure the safety of all.

Cal South's Return-to-Play policies and protocols are based on compliance with Federal, State, County and Municipal ordinances. The State's updated guidelines are effective 26 February 2021 and allow progression to advanced levels of participation based on the degree of contact. Soccer is identified as a moderate tier (Orange) sport meaning a sport that can be played with incidental or intermittent close contact between participants. Allowable tiered sports are permitted by county based on the adjusted case rate per 100,000 residents. Outdoor high-contact sports (orange tier) can be played in the purple or red tier with an adjusted case rate equal to or less than 14 per 100,000 under given conditions which includes testing of participants (age dependent).

Please note that the California State Guideline includes a number of requirements including face covering for all while not participating, maintenance of distance by non-household observers, restriction of shared use of personal items and equipment, restriction of indoor activities and prohibition of participation in out-of-state games and tournaments. Second, Inter-Team competition and tournaments are permitted only if (a) both teams are located in the same county and the sport is authorized; or (b) teams are located in immediately bordering counties and the sport is authorized in both counties. Finally, no tournaments or events that involve more than two teams to occur.

Cal South is reviewing and will update our policies and protocols to align with the State's guidelines. Please review the State Guideline carefully to ensure compliance. Moreover, check with your local County Department of Public Health for updated Public Health Orders which reflect the guidelines. Finally, follow the specific rules for your locally permitted facilities.

 
SD county doesn't have to wait for the 14/100k due to the let them play injunction via the courts.

Additionally, CIF SD has agreed to follow the judges orders in San Diego County today, more info to follow.

Games on in SD County.
Be careful what you wish for -- I heard from colleagues down there that the court ruling may actually make it more difficult to return to sports because high schools will have to Covid test weekly in order to play (just as the colleges do). Not in the budget for most schools.
 
Be careful what you wish for -- I heard from colleagues down there that the court ruling may actually make it more difficult to return to sports because high schools will have to Covid test weekly in order to play (just as the colleges do). Not in the budget for most schools.

I was wondering if anyone else noticed that. The court ruling did not grant unfettered freedom to play, but just put high school athletics in the same bucket as college and pro sports. I have lost track of the number of times that I have read of a college or pro team delaying or canceling events because of recent positive covid tests.
 
There is zero chance high schools can pull off testing and protocols like colleges. So I’m guessing high schools will just skip doing that and wait for someone to catch them.
 
There is zero chance high schools can pull off testing and protocols like colleges. So I’m guessing high schools will just skip doing that and wait for someone to catch them.

Heard rumors about twice a week onsite testing @ some of the schools for football, zero period. Results are known before 1st. However, seems like better left to the professional

$$ so the "governor" talks about paying for testing but let's see if he delivers in a timely fashion.

No plans for Soccer testing, SD should be in range to bypass that next Tuesday at <14
 
The issue isn’t the testing. I mean it is but that’s just half the battle. It’s then tracing everyone that kid was around. Did he ride to school with 4 teammates? Then they are out. Did he go out to eat last night with any teammates? Then they are out.
Did the coaches have him in a room watching film after practice yesterday? Then they are all out.

They won’t really test because it opens up the huge issue of tracing and isolating positive cases and exposures. There is no way they have manpower for that. Or the desire.

a positive test is one thing. Acting responsibly for the exposure to that test is the true issue. There is zero chance that happens so better to just not test and pretend there’s no issues.
 
On unadjusted raw data, San Diego looks like it is clearly at 14 now. 2/13 was the last reported date with 15 adjusted on 16.7 unadjusted. They will issue the report for 2/20 this coming week.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CI...ary/COVID-19/Blueprint_Data_Chart_022321.xlsx
https://bao.arcgis.com/covid-19/jhu/county/06073.html


DateDaily Cases7 day totalUnadjusted rate per 100kSD County PopulationAdjusted rate per 100k
2/5/2021​
1265​
2/6/2021​
1230​
2/7/2021​
698​
2/8/2021​
789​
2/9/2021​
810​
2/10/2021​
1113​
2/11/2021​
817​
6722​
19.9​
3,370,418
2/12/2021​
891​
6348​
18.8​
3,370,418
2/13/2021
568​
5686​
16.7
3,370,41815
2/14/2021​
693​
5681​
16.7​
3,370,418
2/15/2021​
698​
5590​
16.6​
3,370,418
2/16/2021​
539​
5319​
15.8​
3,370,418
2/17/2021​
810​
5016​
14.9​
3,370,418
2/18/2021​
812​
5011​
14.9​
3,370,418
2/19/2021​
711​
4831​
14.3​
3,370,418
2/20/2021
517​
4780​
14.2
3,370,418
2/21/2021​
321​
4408​
13.1​
3,370,418
2/22/2021​
454​
4164​
12.4​
3,370,418
2/23/2021​
658​
4283​
12.7​
3,370,418
2/24/2021​
519​
3992​
11.8​
3,370,418

 
On unadjusted raw data, San Diego looks like it is clearly at 14 now. 2/13 was the last reported date with 15 adjusted on 16.7 unadjusted. They will issue the report for 2/20 this coming week.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH Document Library/COVID-19/Blueprint_Data_Chart_022321.xlsx
https://bao.arcgis.com/covid-19/jhu/county/06073.html


DateDaily Cases7 day totalUnadjusted rate per 100kSD County PopulationAdjusted rate per 100k
2/5/2021​
1265​
2/6/2021​
1230​
2/7/2021​
698​
2/8/2021​
789​
2/9/2021​
810​
2/10/2021​
1113​
2/11/2021​
817​
6722​
19.9​
3,370,418
2/12/2021​
891​
6348​
18.8​
3,370,418
2/13/2021
568​
5686​
16.7
3,370,41815
2/14/2021​
693​
5681​
16.7​
3,370,418
2/15/2021​
698​
5590​
16.6​
3,370,418
2/16/2021​
539​
5319​
15.8​
3,370,418
2/17/2021​
810​
5016​
14.9​
3,370,418
2/18/2021​
812​
5011​
14.9​
3,370,418
2/19/2021​
711​
4831​
14.3​
3,370,418
2/20/2021
517​
4780​
14.2
3,370,418
2/21/2021​
321​
4408​
13.1​
3,370,418
2/22/2021​
454​
4164​
12.4​
3,370,418
2/23/2021​
658​
4283​
12.7​
3,370,418
2/24/2021​
519​
3992​
11.8​
3,370,418

I don't quite follow your math on how you get to 11.8 in the last row:
-3,992 is the last total for the last 7 days
-7-day average is therefore 570 (3992/7)
-Case rate per 100K is therefore 16.9 (570/3.37M*100K) instead of 11.8
 
I don't quite follow your math on how you get to 11.8 in the last row:
-3,992 is the last total for the last 7 days
-7-day average is therefore 570 (3992/7)
-Case rate per 100K is therefore 16.9 (570/3.37M*100K) instead of 11.8
Where do I say 7 day average ?, Its 7 day total cases.
 
So the state publishes this on 2/13, indicates a 16.6 per 100k rate unadjusted.

CountyDate of Tier AssessmentEnding Date of Week of Data: 02-07-21 to 02-13-21Final Tier Assignment for 02-23-21Previous Tier Assignment, 02-15-21 AssessmentFirst Date in Current TierCounty Tier Assignment Based on Meeting Accelerated Health Equity CriteriaNumber of Weeks in Current TierNumber of Consecutive Weeks Meeting Criteria for Less Restrictive TierNumber of Consecutive Weeks Meeting Criteria for More Restrictive TierTier for Week 02-07-21 to 02-13-21, 02-22-21 AssessmentTest Positivity excl prisons (7-day, 7-day lag)Case Rate Used for Tier Adjusted Using Linear Adjustment (7-day avg, 7-day lag)Unadjusted Case Rate per 100,000 excl prisons (7-day avg, 7-day lag)
San Diego02-22-202102-13-20211111-09-2020No160NA15.015.016.6
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH Document Library/COVID-19/Blueprint_Data_Chart_022321.xlsx

State has to be using different raw data or they modified the formula.

If I use the data from John Hopkins site and run the state declared Calculation that Messi>CR7 is accurately stating.
https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/cont...rams/phs/Epidemiology/CaseRateCalculation.pdf


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7-DAY AVERAGE from 2/7 to 2/13: (5,686/7)=812, divided by county population, 812/3,370,418 = .00024 X 100,000

I don't come anywhere close to 16.7.
 
So pretty sure no one cares all that much, but there are two more factors, they subtract cases that are prison based from the raw data, and the case rate gets adjusted if a county is above or below the state median for testing.

California COVID-19 Case Rate Adjustment Factor
Testing VolumeCase Rate Adjustment Factor*
01.4
0.25* State Median1.3
0.50* State Median1.2
0.75* State Median1.1
State Median1
1.25* State Median0.875
1.5* State Median0.75
1.75* State Median0.625
2.0*State Median and above0.5



So long story short, no way you can figure it out in advance unless you had the prison cases data.
 
San Diego has a big challenge. Their daily case rates have not dropped below 500 a day. I recall reading that they found a good amount of cases of the UK variant in late January in San Diego. I’m hoping this is not the reason why San Diego is now trailing other counties in SoCal.
 
San Diego has a big challenge. Their daily case rates have not dropped below 500 a day. I recall reading that they found a good amount of cases of the UK variant in late January in San Diego. I’m hoping this is not the reason why San Diego is now trailing other counties in SoCal.
Quite a few places around the us have begun to plateau. The northeast in particular seems to being having an issue with this
 
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