Let Them Play CA

Since Nov 1

CA has seen a 203% increase in cases
TX has seen a 108% increase in cases
FL has seen a 87% increase in cases.

Which state has the toughest measures in place?

AZ over the same time period has seen cases jump 159%

So objectively looking at the data, CA has not been successful in stopping the spread over the past 2.5 months despite having easily the most draconian lockdowns, right?
 
Desert Hound said:
Since Nov 1

CA has seen a 203% increase in cases
TX has seen a 108% increase in cases
FL has seen a 87% increase in cases.

Which state has the toughest measures in place?

AZ over the same time period has seen cases jump 159%

So objectively looking at the data, CA has not been successful in stopping the spread over the past 2.5 months despite having easily the most draconian lockdowns, right?
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But that’s everyone else’s fault....lol
 
Desert Hound said:
What is interesting is that cases per million do not line up neatly with deaths per million. As a matter of fact the numbers jump all over the place when looking at the 2.

There are countries with fewer cases per million vs other countries and yet have higher deaths per million. It works the other way as well.

Same thing with states. There are a number of states with fewer cases per million then lets say CA and yet have dramatically higher deaths per million. And the reverse is true. There are states with higher cases per million with less deaths per million.

Utah has 100k cases per million and yet has far fewer deaths per million vs CA.
Wisconsin has almost the identical cases per million as AZ and yet their deaths per million is just above CA.
Michigan has about the same deaths per million as AZ but cases per million are well south of CA

And so on.

That implies strongly that cases per million and deaths per million do not work in tandem. There are clearly other factors at play that play it seems a greater role.

And back to the point. CA idea was to limit the spread of the disease. They have not done any better stopping the spread compared to the 2 other largest states in the union who took vastly different approaches.

One might ask...why have we shut our schools, biz, sports, etc when the spread of the virus here is the same as TX and FL who have not done those things CA did.
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I can see how you wouldn’t want to talk about your state.
 
Desert Hound said:
Since Nov 1

CA has seen a 203% increase in cases
TX has seen a 108% increase in cases
FL has seen a 87% increase in cases.

Which state has the toughest measures in place?

AZ over the same time period has seen cases jump 159%

So objectively looking at the data, CA has not been successful in stopping the spread over the past 2.5 months despite having easily the most draconian lockdowns, right?
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Look at these distractions from the rate at which AZ has killed people.

Everyone, even a Bronze Baboon, knows that the number of cases is based on what is reported, not what is actually happening. As we all know, the Mango Magat had explicitly instructed states to stop testing so that they would have fewer cases.

We’ve already been through this magatly pathetic argument.
 
EOTL said:
Look at these distractions from the rate at which AZ has killed people.

Everyone, even a Bronze Baboon, knows that the number of cases is based on what is reported, not what is actually happening. As we all know, the Mango Magat had explicitly instructed states to stop testing so that they would have fewer cases.

We’ve already been through this magatly pathetic argument.
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His comment was directed at panic over testing rather than deaths. You were probably busy coaching your non existent kids that don’t play soccer and missed the context.
 
EOTL said:
Look at these distractions from the rate at which AZ has killed people.

Everyone, even a Bronze Baboon, knows that the number of cases is based on what is reported, not what is actually happening. As we all know, the Mango Magat had explicitly instructed states to stop testing so that they would have fewer cases.

We’ve already been through this magatly pathetic argument.
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Then why has AZ’s testing rate daily average almost doubled from where it was in July? (Source azdhs.gov)

You’re running out of straws to grab for.......
 
Scott m Shurson said:
His comment was directed at panic over testing rather than deaths. You were probably busy coaching your non existent kids that don’t play soccer and missed the context.
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Oh boy. No it was not. It was to deflect from how terribly AZ is doing compared to CA. Magats want to talk about anything other than how many people are dying. Maybe this os a good time for @MSK357 to tell us how 400,000 people have died of heartburn “with” covid.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Then why has AZ’s testing rate daily average almost doubled from where it was in July? (Source azdhs.gov)

You’re running out of straws to grab for.......
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Why are people dying at almost twice the rate per capita than in CA? Are they all running into cacti “with covid”?
 
Did y’all hear how Magat Spawn Daughter refused to let the Secret Service who was protecting them use any of their 6.5 bathrooms, so Obama and even Pence graciously agreed to let them use one of theirs? Ultimately, the issue was resolved when Ickabod Kushner set up his buddy, who’s been renting them a toilet in a basement for $3,000 a month.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Then why has AZ’s testing rate daily average almost doubled from where it was in July? (Source azdhs.gov)

You’re running out of straws to grab for.......
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Are you seriously trying to argue that AZ has a good record on covid containment?

Really? Just do a quick web search for covid deaths in AZ, think a little, and pick something else to champion.

Getting rid of the "unnaturally large" definition for handballs, perhaps. Take a stand on VAR. Tell us whether direct is better than possession.

Something else.
 
EOTL said:
Why are people dying at almost twice the rate per capita than in CA? Are they all running into cacti “with covid”?
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That’s a different question than the statement I already proved wrong. Maybe, but it is true that more older people are dying with Covid by the day.
 
dad4 said:
Are you seriously trying to argue that AZ has a good record on covid containment?

Really? Just do a quick web search for covid deaths in AZ, think a little, and pick something else to champion.

Getting rid of the "unnaturally large" definition for handballs, perhaps. Take a stand on VAR. Tell us whether direct is better than possession.

Something else.
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Actually what I am pointing out is that despite CA having draconian lockdowns we see the following:

Cases per million in CA are about identical to FL and to TX. States that have taken a very different approach. Think restaurants, schools, sports, etc.

Right? So besides screwing the pooch on education, biz, etc, what has CA lockdowns achieved when you compare them to the 2 other largest states?

Isn't the theory that lockdowns etc are supposed to stop the spread of the virus?

Explain why CA and FL and TX have the same cases per million?

Explain why over the past 2.5 months CA despite draconian measures has seen their cases grow faster than almost every other state in the union. If masks and lockdowns were the key...why is CA experiencing what it is?
 
dad4 said:
Are you seriously trying to argue that AZ has a good record on covid containment?

Really? Just do a quick web search for covid deaths in AZ, think a little, and pick something else to champion.

Getting rid of the "unnaturally large" definition for handballs, perhaps. Take a stand on VAR. Tell us whether direct is better than possession.

Something else.
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Are you confusing me with the voices in your head???

How do you correlate proving AZ is testing more not less people with defending their response to Covid?

That’s twice in 1 day (3 in 2 days) you have tried to argue with me about something that I’m not arguing.

Holy dipshit Batman!!!!
 
EOTL said:
Oh boy. No it was not. It was to deflect from how terribly AZ is doing compared to CA. Magats want to talk about anything other than how many people are dying. Maybe this os a good time for @MSK357 to tell us how 400,000 people have died of heartburn “with” covid.
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Oh boy, I watched the video you reference. People are dying everywhere. The fact that you’ve posted 2,000 times on it makes me wonder if you have a point. Your liberal governor ignored safety. His liberal, drunken bag of bones auntie ignored the safety. Dementia Joe has been photographed ignoring safety, numerous times, and yet you can’t stop obsessing about Trump.

Concerning, don’t you think?
 
N00B said:
Sorry, not sorry... neither do you.
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N00B said:
Sorry, not sorry... neither do you.
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Kicker4Life said:
But that’s everyone else’s fault....lol
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Scott m Shurson said:
Oh boy, I watched the video you reference. People are dying everywhere. The fact that you’ve posted 2,000 times on it makes me wonder if you have a point. Your liberal governor ignored safety. His liberal, drunken bag of bones auntie ignored the safety. Dementia Joe has been photographed ignoring safety, numerous times, and yet you can’t stop obsessing about Trump.

Concerning, don’t you think?
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EOTL said:
Did y’all hear how Magat Spawn Daughter refused to let the Secret Service who was protecting them use any of their 6.5 bathrooms, so Obama and even Pence graciously agreed to let them use one of theirs? Ultimately, the issue was resolved when Ickabod Kushner set up his buddy, who’s been renting them a toilet in a basement for $3,000 a month.
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They should have parked a FEMA portable toilet trailer on the street outside, one with a constantly-on diesel motor to provide lighting and leaky connections to the local water and sewer.
 
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