Bro, it's one of his many nursing homes he owns.I wonder where your home is? not even close to half. Plenty of smart people though, but mask wearing is def below 50%, way below.
Bro, it's one of his many nursing homes he owns.I wonder where your home is? not even close to half. Plenty of smart people though, but mask wearing is def below 50%, way below.
It's unfortunate that vaccination has been so politicized.Perhaps other people disagree with you about whether zero covid is possible?
After all, you begin by assuming that 1/3 to 2/3 of us refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, or move social events outside. Under those assumptions, covid spreads widely. But that is not the only possible choice we have for our behavior.
A high vax rate and moderate mask/distance/outside norms are enough to drive hospitalizations near zero. Vermont is averaging one hospitalized covid patient right now. SF is around 25. Both have fewer than one covid death per day.
Now, if you want to open schools, burn your masks, and ban vaccine requirements, then you’re in Louisiana/Arkansas/Missouri territory, with around 1000 hospitalizations and 10 deaths per day.
But that is our choice. We don’t have to pick the stupid option.
Perhaps other people disagree with you about whether zero covid is possible?
After all, you begin by assuming that 1/3 to 2/3 of us refuse to wear masks, get vaccinated, or move social events outside. Under those assumptions, covid spreads widely. But that is not the only possible choice we have for our behavior.
A high vax rate and moderate mask/distance/outside norms are enough to drive hospitalizations near zero. Vermont is averaging one hospitalized covid patient right now. SF is around 25. Both have fewer than one covid death per day.
Now, if you want to open schools, burn your masks, and ban vaccine requirements, then you’re in Louisiana/Arkansas/Missouri territory, with around 1000 hospitalizations and 10 deaths per day.
But that is our choice. We don’t have to pick the stupid option.
In low income communities, regardless of race, police, firemen and EMS folks are the primary care provider. Hence, those citizens are not as inclined to seek care from traditional healthcare sources and, as a result, unlikely to go to a clinic to get a vaccination. We need a different approach to get these individuals vaccinated.I see it everyday in disenfranchised communities. It's shame (or maybe not) that our police officers, firemen, and EMS folks are driving the train at the community level to educate those with the least information.
The once level headed Dad got his head stuck in a vice.Wow, I always thought you were one of the more level headed pro lockdowners. You actually believe zero COVID is possible in the foreseeable future??? You also were relatively thinking that this shouldn't be put on the children but now in the parade of horribles you list "open schools". You would really deprive children of another year of education and another year of their childhood? And when is the offramp for you: we were waiting for 14 days to slow the spread, then a month, then until the hospitals were ready, then until treatments were available, then until the elderly vaxxed, then until everyone offered a vax....what are we waiting for now?
I gotta say you were one of the more level headed blue pillers here. If you are representative of where the level headed ones are at, we are in for big problems here in around 6 weeks.
Wow, I always thought you were one of the more level headed pro lockdowners. You actually believe zero COVID is possible in the foreseeable future??? You also were relatively thinking that this shouldn't be put on the children but now in the parade of horribles you list "open schools". You would really deprive children of another year of education and another year of their childhood? And when is the offramp for you: we were waiting for 14 days to slow the spread, then a month, then until the hospitals were ready, then until treatments were available, then until the elderly vaxxed, then until everyone offered a vax....what are we waiting for now?
I gotta say you were one of the more level headed blue pillers here. If you are representative of where the level headed ones are at, we are in for big problems here in around 6 weeks.
The "longer term damage" is being 89. No doubt his immune system has rec'd a lot of viral updates over that period too. A recommended approach for immunity is not the point I am making. The Fear Industry has made immunity a binary decision with vaccines on one side and death on the other. Any talk of therapies appear muted by the CDC and the Media. Six of the 80+ y.o. folks that I know survived corona pre-vax. All are doing well for being 80+. None of them were in a LTCF. If you have a choice, keep your parents out of those kill zones people.
You actually don't have an option. Me? I got options. Good diet, exercise, healthy weight, deep sea fishing, golfing without a cart, and clown identity to name a few.But that is our choice. We don’t have to pick the stupid option.
Great job Bruddah. I can;t do heavy lifting because of my bad back. However, I do light rock lifting, swimming and walking on da beach early every morning. I have no money to golf so I just swim for exercise. If you want to sponsor me a round with Hound someday I will take you guys on.You actually don't have an option. Me? I got options. Good diet, exercise, healthy weight, deep sea fishing, golfing without a cart, and clown identity to name a few.
So we could have already been exposed but not exhibiting because our adaptive immune systems have rec'd the necessary updates?
There is some evidence that the antibodies induced by the vaccine are more neutralizing than antibodies arising from natural infection, which I think is why health experts are like "why not both".
Are either of you vets?Great job Bruddah. I can;t do heavy lifting because of my bad back. However, I do light rock lifting, swimming and walking on da beach early every morning. I have no money to golf so I just swim for exercise. If you want to sponsor me a round with Hound someday I will take you guys on.
Can we get to “zero”? It depends on which question you are asking and what assumptions you make.Wow, I always thought you were one of the more level headed pro lockdowners. You actually believe zero COVID is possible in the foreseeable future??? You also were relatively thinking that this shouldn't be put on the children but now in the parade of horribles you list "open schools". You would really deprive children of another year of education and another year of their childhood? And when is the offramp for you: we were waiting for 14 days to slow the spread, then a month, then until the hospitals were ready, then until treatments were available, then until the elderly vaxxed, then until everyone offered a vax....what are we waiting for now?
I gotta say you were one of the more level headed blue pillers here. If you are representative of where the level headed ones are at, we are in for big problems here in around 6 weeks.
No. I love you all though. I tried to be a Marine in 1985 but failed one part of the ASVAB text. My recruiter told me to go to college and save myself. I dont remember the part I bombed. I was trying to figure out life sense I had no place to live after high school. My foster mom did her part and moved to Indio and I was left on my own to figure things out on this planet. I turned to Christ for help and joined a crazy cult soon after. I'm glad I did because I met my wife and got my crap together. I will say after I figured out it it was more about the 10%-15% and control, we left.Are either of you vets?
You actually don't have an option.
There's also been some evidence to the contrary, that natural immunity is more robust. I posted a study several weeks back. Also Dr. John Campbell (who is not a member of the red pill squad) has been running a series of talks over the last several weeks including interview with experts....it may be the immunity (at least relative to the Delta) from vaccines fades more rapidly over time (which is why he thinks we the US might have been better off spreading the injections like they did in the UK).
Itʻs always been “why not both”. Except “why not both” is now riding on the coat tails of a global economic shut down because of a well known virus. Leveraging a .0002 IFR to shut down the global economy is pure fear mongering.If I follow, yeah. Anyone that got infected, even if they were basically healthy and exhibited little or no symptoms, will almost certainly have mounted an active immune response. If re-exposed to the virus that acquired immune response can be induced again. The "memory" gradually fades over time, but the time course is relatively slow compared to the pace of the pandemic. There is some evidence that the antibodies induced by the vaccine are more neutralizing than antibodies arising from natural infection, which I think is why health experts are like "why not both".
Can we get to “zero”? It depends on which question you are asking and what assumptions you make.
Could we get to zero deaths per day? Absolutely. It would take 12 months and near universal vaccinations.
Can we get to zero cases while we all take our unvaccinated, unmasked selves out for dinner? Heck no.
Now, which question were you asking? Zero deaths by behaving well, or zero cases by behaving foolishly?
We'd rather make it about partisan politics and project agendas that don't provide positive outcomes for these communities.. The ones who benefit are those in some sort of office or position of power - provides them job security.In low income communities, regardless of race, police, firemen and EMS folks are the primary care provider. Hence, those citizens are not as inclined to seek care from traditional healthcare sources and, as a result, unlikely to go to a clinic to get a vaccination. We need a different approach to get these individuals vaccinated.