21st Century Model
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They might get more support if they didn't focus on less than half the college soccer players. It would have been better to just say "NCAA Division 1 Soccer" instead of "NCAA Division 1 Men's Soccer". I think it would open a Title IX can of worms to treat men's and women's soccer differently.
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Overall I support this move, even though the majority of current NCAA Division 1 women soccer players do not. I do very much disagree with this statement however.
"POOR FIELD CONDITIONS IN MARCH
Potential Solutions:
"POOR FIELD CONDITIONS IN MARCH
Potential Solutions:
- Many teams are already using high quality artificial turf. Artificial playing surfaces are widely accepted throughout the world and sometimes preferred."
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Historic vote for 21st Century Model looms | College Soccer
The biggest moment of the year in the US Soccer world will not happen on a field. It will happen in a boardroom. The important vote is setting up for a historic change in college soccer.
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Vote coming up for men's game.
Is this issue not gaining much traction or dead in the water for women's soccer? If so, why? Poor field conditions in March? What else?
Seems weird to me to have men's and women's soccer on different schedules, but maybe just have to get used to it if it ends up being the case.
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My understanding is that the women want to be able to focus on academics during the spring semester.
Everyone? Does that include the coaches at the schools that will drop intercollegiate soccer due to the increased cost? They may end up splitting DI soccer into 2 classes, like how football is now.
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Who exactly is "Everyone"? As far as I can tell, it does not include the women, who are more than half the D1 college soccer players. Does their opinion count?
Please explain how it will cost more?
Please explain why you think it wouldn't.
Discussion on this topic opened a year and a half ago on BigSoccer.com --
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Expanding the college season appears dead in the water
This is not good for college soccer. [MEDIA] It is probably good for American soccer as a whole as it will likely push more of the top players into...
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You made the comment based on what? Present the analysis and I will refute them one by one.
Trainers - no they have to work with soccer in the spring anyhow. They are training 20 hrs per week
Fields - Lacrosse plays Fri Sun typically - Play Soccer on Saturday only one game per week
Travel - Usually have to travel 2 different places and accommodate every road trip so one game per week is a wash.
Advantage - Everyone on the team can play. Play double header 1 game for record 2nd game training
Parents see their kid play, team is all on same training schedule for the week since everyone played
More development hours
Next?
It's covered in the bigsoccer thread.
Girls don;t really count much in girls soccer. Girls in youth soccer only make the men millions why the parents have to pay thousands so dd can play and so USA can find that one special super star to carry our country to gold again. What a sport folks. Competition is so diluted it's now water. The girls reward is to be treated as second class in college to the men and get paid chump change and basically have to pay to play professionally. What is this? These clubs are ranking in hundreds of thousand of dollars every____________________ and all we do is argue over who the best 100 are in each age group and whose league is better and who has the #1 club in the country with 11 National Championships. Oh boy, can;t wait for 2020-2021 season.
I’ll be more clear: if the men’s side (which is where the vote is happening) passes it, the women’s side won’t be far behind. “Everyone” is the women’s college coaches who all want it. Shoot just follow the threads on twitter about it and you’ll see overwhelming support from the women’s side.
I used to be meh on it but to hear it explained it makes a ton of sense. And in the current climate where the NCAA is so mindful of protecting the welfare of student athletes I could actually see it happening.
Feb and April field conditions is a hurdle. But id rather fight that issue than the damage the 2 games in a weekend does. And shoot we all should get some advantage for being so cal people!
I used to be meh on it but to hear it explained it makes a ton of sense. And in the current climate where the NCAA is so mindful of protecting the welfare of student athletes I could actually see it happening.
Feb and April field conditions is a hurdle. But id rather fight that issue than the damage the 2 games in a weekend does. And shoot we all should get some advantage for being so cal people!
Guess I just blew the big soccer thread out of the water.
How's that?
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Thanks for the reply. I am actually in favor of the change. I do follow the threads and there is no overwhelming support on the women's side. The majority of D1 women players are against the change at this time. From https://www.21stcenturymodel.org/concerns
"The Division I women have developed a proposal to decompress the fall season for similar reasons that the men are pursuing the two semester championship model. In 2016 on an NCAA survey, Division I men’s and women’s coaches and student-athletes were asked if they supported a two semester championship model, but not specifically the Division I men’s 21st Century Model. On this survey, 50% of D I women’s head coaches expressed support for a two-semester season, but only 17 % of D I women’s players indicated support."