You say the bigssoccer thread is outdated, but the most recent post there was yesterday.
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You say the bigssoccer thread is outdated, but the most recent post there was yesterday.
Simisoccerfan
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No there would not be. Soccer already has fields for the Spring season.
For a very limited season, and sometimes they hold their Spring games on other fields or even at off-campus locations.
Simisoccerfan
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Provide some facts to back this up please.
outside!
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I was just repeating what I read elsewhere. Some schools have a conflict with lacrosse or maybe it was field hockey (one of those stick and ball games anyhow).
You didn't know already that it is a very limited season? Here is the UC Davis Spring schedule - 7 games over 5 dates, sometimes 2 games a day with the opponents playing each other in between.
Defending Big West champions announce spring schedule - UC Davis Athletics
The 2019 Big West Conference regular season and tournament champions will prep for their their 2020 title defense this spring by competing in seven games throughout
ucdavisaggies.com
A few years back UCD played Cal at a community college field in Pleasanton.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
You didn't know already that it is a very limited season? Here is the UC Davis Spring schedule - 7 games over 5 dates, sometimes 2 games a day with the opponents playing each other in between.
Defending Big West champions announce spring schedule - UC Davis Athletics
The 2019 Big West Conference regular season and tournament champions will prep for their their 2020 title defense this spring by competing in seven games throughout
A few years back UCD played Cal at a community college field in Pleasanton.
Of course I know it is a short season! My dd plays! And just because you say UCD played a game at a community college field doesn't mean that field issues are a problem that would prevent this plan from working. The facts I wanted were actual schedules at alternate fields because the primary field was not available since you were implying that field space is an issue.
Shouldn't we really be focusing on taking off the dumb limits on men's and women's soccer scholarships? Although incredibly popular, women's soccer and volleyball are afforded fewer scholarships than women's ice hockey, rowing (that's not a typo), and track and field. Unless I read it on the NCAA website, I wouldn't have believed that women's rugby gets 12 scholarships (the same as volleyball). And, of course, the men's side would also benefit without the cap. Schools without football programs could become soccer powerhouses and hopefully lift the overall level of the men's game by providing more post-high school opportunities to play.
What did I get wrong?
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DA
IF they go to a year long season, they should also limit substitutions to be more like the international game. I would be in favor of just adopting FIFA laws across the board.
Yeah something like limiting bench to 18 players, play a doubleheader first game for record second a training game. Players from first game can only play if they played less than XXX minutes. This way everyone on the team plays on that day, parents get to see their kid play, and the team recovers the following week all on the same schedule.
Yes, but having a roster of 35 with those rules is tough. Let's get these rosters down to 24 and then 18 suit up with 18 scholarships and switch to fifa for Power 5 only. Have regulation D1 for those looking to knock out a power 5 team that's only in there because of football. A school like CBU could join a power 5 just for girls soccer for one year because they won and beat Goliath. Just a thought I had to fix some of this. All the other conferences can keep the same rules or change them to fifa.
I really like the idea of eliminating double headers and delaying all games until a month after classes start.
Using FIFA substitutions is a bad idea. The limit on subs gives coaches a reason to keep injured players in the game- and risk worse injury. I don't want to see someone's son or daughter get permanent brain damage so we can find out whether USC is better than UCLA this year.
( Yes, I know that, in theory, coaches remove all players who are suspected of a concussion. I've also seen far too many FIFA players wobbling on the sideline, but still in the game, after a big hit. The rule isn't enforced. )
Using FIFA substitutions is a bad idea. The limit on subs gives coaches a reason to keep injured players in the game- and risk worse injury. I don't want to see someone's son or daughter get permanent brain damage so we can find out whether USC is better than UCLA this year.
( Yes, I know that, in theory, coaches remove all players who are suspected of a concussion. I've also seen far too many FIFA players wobbling on the sideline, but still in the game, after a big hit. The rule isn't enforced. )
outside!
DA
Good point. Do you have any ideas on how to eliminate the massive substitutions teams like UNC do? The near unlimited substitutions warp the game. Maybe limited rosters? Maybe limit the subs to 6?
I think going to a head count sport (like 17 full scholys and you can only be on a full or walk on) would distribute talent to more schools. That might trickle down to impact unc playing 25 people each game. Roster spots 18-25 might go elsewhere for a full ride
I also think limiting subs helps the game. And if the season is year long you will have more kids healthier and one injury isn’t season altering. That might encourage actual soccer and not teams who just wreck the game (not just unc with the press but Arizona, Arkansas, Baylor and others who just bang it forward, create chaos and foul) as that style works in a short season where it’s easy to implement with little development and hard to defend with a rapid slate of games coming at you.
well a person can dream right?
I also think limiting subs helps the game. And if the season is year long you will have more kids healthier and one injury isn’t season altering. That might encourage actual soccer and not teams who just wreck the game (not just unc with the press but Arizona, Arkansas, Baylor and others who just bang it forward, create chaos and foul) as that style works in a short season where it’s easy to implement with little development and hard to defend with a rapid slate of games coming at you.
well a person can dream right?
If you really like the endurance element, limit the total number of players. Sub all you want, but only 15 players can participate per match.
Limiting the season roster is weird once you consider injuries. Better just to limit the game roster.
There are some new posts in the bigsoccer thread on this topic.
Expanding the college season appears dead in the water
I thought I'd look to see these stats and such for baseball. It's been awhile since I've paid any attention to the sport. 27% are foreign born --...
www.bigsoccer.com
Then the game will be as crappy and slow as American football. Nor does that resolve the endurance problem. Rotating girls in and out provides recovery time that leads to press and kickball soccer. NC has perfected it; it's ugly and ruins the game. And there is no evidence that coaches take out kids more for injuries when they have unlimited substitutions - none.