So 8-10 SoCal, 4-5 NorCal, and maybe 60-70 total?
Certainly more elite. You'd get higher level games.
You'd also get longer travel, both for practice and games. You'll lose some families just because of the time spent in transit.
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Certainly more elite. You'd get higher level games.
You'd also get longer travel, both for practice and games. You'll lose some families just because of the time spent in transit.
kickingandscreaming
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I think 8 is good for NorCal - I'd drop it to 7 and add a team in Fresno. That alone is good for 14 "local" (don't need to fly) games. Typically these teams also play in NPL for extra games.
The days of having only the top players playing against the other top players are long gone and never coming back. No way. The good news is so many girls want to play soccer. The bad news is so many are told if they do speed training they will get fast. Or if they train four days a week 10 months out of the year they will be developed into a world class player, taught by world class coaches. When you lie all day, you get what you lie about. This will take years to sort out in socal. I would just go with more teams so all the parents who feel their goat is elite, can get a chance to showcase. The girls get to play and that's 100% the most important. Some coaches tell you want you want to hear and very very few tell you what you need to hear, like the truth. I do joke around sometimes but I can say many teens are having a hard time right now. My advice to all the adults, get your sh*t together. Seriously, this is a complete joke. A bunch of rich parents and their lame coaches just want what they have always wanted, control and access. Stop it!!!
Sounds like you have been in a sour situation. There are some great club coaches and great clubs out there. Not sure where you are getting the idea that top players playing against each other are long gone. With DA folding and the ECNL gaining their top clubs, it is only going to get better, not worse, for top players. DA and ECNL competing watered both leagues down. Now ECNL gets all of the top teams.
By the way, speed training can improve speed. It cannot make a slow player uber fast, but it can improve one's speed.
45, come on man. My situation is all roses brah. The last three years has been marvelous and so fun watching all the greats battle it out on da pitch as my dd was banned from playing with all the socal greats because she attended public school and did not get a special waiver like some players got. If you want top top, listen to the great Maps. He said only 20-40 top top in each county. So take the top top from OC and have one team of 20, IE 20, LA 20 and so on. Then have a socal league with each county sending their best. The rest of us can be in the other leagues and go play high school. If you dont do that, you will have a 20 team socal league in two years.
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Speaking from experience, I’ll take a slow traffic jammed drive down the coast for 2-4 hours with a stop at Pizza Port in Solana Beach on the return trip over a monotonous 4-5 hour trip between Houston and Dallas on I-45 or 7 hour trip to OKC from Houston with only Buckees to stop and get some jerky.
46n2
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exactly
crush made some poor decision and got dealt a shitty hand, over and over again we hear it. alot of parents have great players and they make rash decisions thinking the grass is greener and wha la.....guess what you just ruined it for your kid because of YOUR ego as a ulttile parent.
Blah Blah Blah....GT45 you are spot on with this
Exactly
Crush's DD made great decisions, not poor one. We were actually talking about all this on the way home from USL and how hard it was to make THE DECISION to play high school soccer instead of biggest scam league ever called the Girls Development Academy. This is where they were making all the World Class Players. The clubs that ran for GDA are the one's who made a rash decision and now have to eat crow, just like you. Follow the story 46. My dd made her decision. I'm hear to point why she made the decision to run away from a Doc who was gnarly. PM me and I'll give you the dirty details asshole
Then, you can PM my DD and ask her how she feels about her "rash" decision. Blah blah blah. People like you and a few I wont name today single handedly ruined soccer in socal. Have a nice day Team Manager.
MacDre
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For the sake of this hypothetical, if we can assume that the average ulittle soccer parent is as game goofy and ignorant regarding soccer development and letter leagues as I was, what makes you think ECNL has elite soccer on lock?
It seems to me that if the GA puts substantial resources into marketing to game goofy ulittle parents that they could potentially compete and be an equivalent alternative or maybe better. The homie @sdb recently put me up on Ankersen. During Ankersen’s presentation he talks about how the folks at Nokia got all comfortable being industry leaders and thought the IPhone was a niche product and they didn’t have anything to worry about...well we all know how this story ends. So how do you know that ECNL is not being overconfident and underestimating GA the same way Nokia underestimated IPhone?
46n2
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my comments are directed at you not your child you fucking moron, dont get it twisted barney.Exactly
Crush's DD made great decisions, not poor one. We were actually talking about all this on the way home from USL and how hard it was to make THE DECISION to play high school soccer instead of biggest scam league ever called the Girls Development Academy. This is where they were making all the World Class Players. The clubs that ran for GDA are the one's who made a rash decision and now have to eat crow, just like you. Follow the story 46. My dd made her decision. I'm hear to point why she made the decision to run away from a Doc who was gnarly. PM me and I'll give you the dirty details asshole
Oh really??? Name calling me so early TM? Wow, folks, this right here is how "some" TMs actually are. They run teams like this and with their Doc ruin sports. Total losers!!!
and of course Kicker agrees with you. Kicker got all he wanted and sum. Listen, we all know what happen. You guys are a joke. All of you "pay to play" so I can get what I want for my dd. Total losers!!! I'm almost out of here guys, so I will be leaving soon. I just have to get in a few last punches in before I leave. Total losers. Pay $$$$ so my dd can get in the front of the line. Losers!!!!
You, "Team Manager" are the biggest loser on this board.
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Wow is cool with me. I dont read into them at all bro. Round and around we go on the socal forum. Spin the wheel today and see where it lands. Today we see that Crush made all the poor decisions for his goat. Because crush was rash, his dd lost her chance to make The List and instead saw green pasture. Mr Crush made poor decisions for his dear daughter that he loves so much and ruined any chance she had to play pro. The haves and the have nuts is out in full force today. Let's play ball. What a heist these assholes pulled on the parents and most of the girls in socal. Karma Karma Karma be coming.
The network effect is stronger in soccer.
iPhone users and Nokia users can still make phone calls to each other whenever they want.
The same is not quite true of GA and ECNL.
I still think GA is viable and that ECNL underestimated the threat. But GA will need to work.
Mr Jones, I know you have been paying to play and i respect that. It pays to lurk as well. Say what you want and attack me, the father. Did you personally know the Doc my dd had to deal with for two years?