Relax. Why. Easy one. WC relations with ECNL was far more positive than clubs that left and were admitted. Or those that snubbed them in DA.
ECNL expansion 2021-2022
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And, IMHO they have 2-3 of the best coaches in SoCal.
It’s all voluntary last I checked.Man, those greedy Surf people are always trying to get kids back on the pitch. First the Surf Cup, now this. Don't they ever stop?
Surf Zombie
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"When the DA ended," said Christian Lavers, president of the ECNL, which also runs a boys league that expanded in the wake of the Boys DA ending while MLS Next launched on the boys side. "Everybody was trying to get in, but we had real challenges with COVID, structure and timing. A lot of these clubs wanted in then when we couldn't put everyone in. Beach FC, Legends, Sporting Blue Valley, Sporting Iowa -- they all played in the ECNL regional leagues this year.
"We told these clubs, we're going to look at your performance in the regional league. Sporting Blue Valley and Sporting Iowa did very well in the regional league. That's why they're joining the ECNL. That is the pathway and transparency in place: Regional league to club competition. If a club struggles in the club competition, eventually they'll likely be moved to a regional competition. ... Beach and Legends in California had challenges [with COVID restrictions], but they have a history of national success. ... Oklahoma Energy has obviously done well in general as a club."
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"We told these clubs, we're going to look at your performance in the regional league. Sporting Blue Valley and Sporting Iowa did very well in the regional league. That's why they're joining the ECNL. That is the pathway and transparency in place: Regional league to club competition. If a club struggles in the club competition, eventually they'll likely be moved to a regional competition. ... Beach and Legends in California had challenges [with COVID restrictions], but they have a history of national success. ... Oklahoma Energy has obviously done well in general as a club."
The 2021-22 season will mark @theECNL Girls' 13th and @GAcademyLeague's second season. Both have announced new members.
Five of the six clubs joining ECNL Girls for the 2021-22 season are leaving the recently launched Girls Academy, which announced the first 10 of its new members for its second season. The new ECNL national league clubs include four that had fielded teams in ECNL’s regional league. The Girls...
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Bingo Glitter Hater. In socal back in the day at u10, every Doc that had ECNL was at State Cup to recruit all the Legends and Beach Players. That's why we have a socal forum that is on fire today. Beach and legends Docs and parents did not like that. You see, clubs like Beach and Legends would have to get with all their U10 parents during State Cup to put out fires and tell kids to stay because GDA is coming soon. I got the, "The old man taking notes is crazy, does not develop, does not promote Training Center, ODP or even YNT and if you stay, you will miss out on the Holy Grail, The List!" He would just say we have ECNL and that was a wrap for most super goats and their parents. Now Beach and Legends can tell GSFC, CVC and all the smaller clubs in IE and LA that they have ECNL. I would love to see the recruiting is going on. I'm writing a book about all this btw so I will make sure you get a copy first
I have so many texts and emails, you will actually get a kick out of it, trust me West Coast needs to be in is all I can say. Do it for the kids sake
SoccerFan4Life
PREMIER
Let them all in and let’s allow the free market to decide how many clubs will survive in the next 2 years. Consolidation is happening this year and next. Let’s face it, al youth sports have been on a decline for the past 5 years. There’s no way SoCal can sustain 10-14 ECNL teams in the near future.West Coast needs to be in is all I can say. Do it for the kids sake
How about a play in tournament for each age for all clubs who meet a basic standard in June. I'm serious.
10-14 ECNL clubs might be that only way to reduce travel and keep costs low enough for customers.
I agree it doesn't sound the same to someone who thinks of ECNL as 60 clubs. And it isn't.
azsnowrider
SILVER ELITE
"When the DA ended," said Christian Lavers, president of the ECNL, which also runs a boys league that expanded in the wake of the Boys DA ending while MLS Next launched on the boys side. "Everybody was trying to get in, but we had real challenges with COVID, structure and timing. A lot of these clubs wanted in then when we couldn't put everyone in. Beach FC, Legends, Sporting Blue Valley, Sporting Iowa -- they all played in the ECNL regional leagues this year.
"We told these clubs, we're going to look at your performance in the regional league. Sporting Blue Valley and Sporting Iowa did very well in the regional league. That's why they're joining the ECNL. That is the pathway and transparency in place: Regional league to club competition. If a club struggles in the club competition, eventually they'll likely be moved to a regional competition. ... Beach and Legends in California had challenges [with COVID restrictions], but they have a history of national success. ... Oklahoma Energy has obviously done well in general as a club."
The 2021-22 season will mark @theECNL Girls' 13th and @GAcademyLeague's second season. Both have announced new members.
Five of the six clubs joining ECNL Girls for the 2021-22 season are leaving the recently launched Girls Academy, which announced the first 10 of its new members for its second season. The new ECNL national league clubs include four that had fielded teams in ECNL’s regional league. The Girls...
So what you are saying is that Christian Lavers himself the Head Honcho at ECNL is making comments about moving struggling teams in the ECNL to the regional leagues? It's his words right? I read the article, so that tells me they are having discussions/conversations/idea sharing which sure sounds like a relegation type system to me. Makes sense actually this way they can allow in top performing clubs without inflating the numbers to much. The anti relegation crowd will start soon, and thats fine. Can't deny the man's words.
I think he’s talking more about promotion than relegation. And it’s by club, not team. but, yes.
Any Nocal u10 scores bro in Nocal USL? Come on man, if your kids love soccer you know you let them out to ball, dont you? Tell truth dad.....
SoccerLocker
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When ECNL clubs migrated to DA, they were replaced with new clubs. These clubs made up most of the bottom third at each age group the last 2-3 years. You just didn't see lopsided SW scores this year as there weren't any games.
Go look at Solars or Real Colorado U17. Lots of 4-0, 5-0, 6-0, 7-0 scorelines. Same thing people here mocked in the SW GA conference (where 2 of the 3 new ECNL adds played 2nd teams) is happening in ECNL. You might say Texas or Pac NW isn't the mighty SW conference, and you would be right. They are better at the top (ECNL Phoenix, anyone?), and they should be clamoring for GA teams to move back.
Lavers is laying it out: Help us hamstring GA vie ECRL or be really strong and we will welcome you back. We will also add pro/rel to deal with the teams we let in during DA.
Go look at Solars or Real Colorado U17. Lots of 4-0, 5-0, 6-0, 7-0 scorelines. Same thing people here mocked in the SW GA conference (where 2 of the 3 new ECNL adds played 2nd teams) is happening in ECNL. You might say Texas or Pac NW isn't the mighty SW conference, and you would be right. They are better at the top (ECNL Phoenix, anyone?), and they should be clamoring for GA teams to move back.
Lavers is laying it out: Help us hamstring GA vie ECRL or be really strong and we will welcome you back. We will also add pro/rel to deal with the teams we let in during DA.
azsnowrider
SILVER ELITE
Your right I meant Clubs not teams, I have Teams on the brain for some reason. He was talking about promotion of those clubs that got in from regional league and that being the way. He also did say moving struggling clubs to regional leagues. If you can read the article you can see at the bottom there is a "summit" that happened last week. On Thursday there was about an hour long forum with both Gallimore and Lavers, together. it was called charting the course for girls. Some interesting comments were made.
Surf Zombie
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“Lavers is laying it out: Help us hamstring GA vie ECRL or be really strong and we will welcome you back. We will also add pro/rel to deal with the teams we let in during DA.”
I thought it was interesting where he says 4 clubs came in via strong performances in ECNL-R, but then Energy & Royals are let in without going that route. I read it as dangling a carrot for more clubs to join ECNL-R. There is an Ohio club, Cleveland Force, that was in GDA, but skipped GAL and only put teams in ECNL- R. If that clubs gets in this year it will be telling.
As far as relegation goes, I think it will be a very rare circumstance, but we’ll see.
I thought it was interesting where he says 4 clubs came in via strong performances in ECNL-R, but then Energy & Royals are let in without going that route. I read it as dangling a carrot for more clubs to join ECNL-R. There is an Ohio club, Cleveland Force, that was in GDA, but skipped GAL and only put teams in ECNL- R. If that clubs gets in this year it will be telling.
As far as relegation goes, I think it will be a very rare circumstance, but we’ll see.
futboldad1
PREMIER
I am not trying to single clubs out....... but given the fact OC Surf/WCFC went directly from ECNL to DA......if their coaching staff is so good why do their teams struggle so badly....... sure it is not all about wins and losses but good players plus good coaches plus top recruitment platforms should not result in the below performances especially as for the older teams...... I can see why ECNL made their decision
| GDA AND ECNL 2020 Standings Per Club by PPG | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| GDA Current Standings (Based on PPG) | ||||||||
| AVG Standings | U14 | U15 | U16 | U17 | U18/U19 | |||
| San Diego Surf | 2.4 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 1 | ||
| Legends | 4 | 1 | 7 | 5 | 2 | 5 | ||
| LA Galaxy | 5 | 3 | 6 | 1 | 7 | 8 | ||
| Real So Cal | 5.2 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 10 | 2 | ||
| Beach Futbol Club | 6.6 | 13 | 2 | 6 | 3 | 9 | ||
| SC Blues | 6.6 | 6 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 13 | ||
| Albion SC | 7.2 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 11 | ||
| LA Galaxy San Diego | 8.2 | 10 | 13 | 3 | 11 | 4 | ||
| Pateadores | 9.2 | 12 | 12 | 7 | 8 | 7 | ||
| SC del Sol | 9.2 | 11 | 3 | 12 | 6 | 14 | ||
| LA Surf SC | 9.4 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 12 | 6 | ||
| Utah Royals FC - Arizona | 9.8 | 14 | 11 | 8 | 13 | 3 | ||
| OC Surf Soccer | 10.6 | 7 | 14 | 13 | 9 | 10 | ||
| Albion SC Las Vegas | 11.6 | 8 | 10 | 14 | 14 | 12 | ||
| ECNL Current Standings (Based on PPG) | AVG Standings | U13 | U14 | U15 | U16 | U17 | U18 | U18 Comp |
| LAFC Slammers | 2.4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 8 |
| So Cal Blues SC | 3.7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
| Slammers FC | 4.6 | 6 | 3 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 6 | 3 |
| LA Breakers FC | 6.3 | 5 | 8 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 9 | 4 |
| Heat FC | 6.3 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 10 | 11 | 7 |
| Strikers FC | 6.6 | 11 | 7 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 3 | 10 |
| Arizona Arsenal SC | 7.1 | 9 | 11 | 12 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 2 |
| Phoenix Rising FC | 7.3 | 7 | 9 | 2 | 2 | 12 | 12 | No team |
| Rebels SC | 7.6 | 8 | 2 | 11 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 9 |
| Eagles SC | 7.6 | 4 | 10 | 5 | 12 | 11 | 5 | 6 |
| Arsenal FC | 8.9 | 12 | 5 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 7 | 11 |
| DMCV Sharks | 9.0 | 10 | 12 | 7 | 11 | 8 | 10 | 5 |
Tophat already isn't what it once was as they suffered a lot of defections of top players over the past summer.
Still are a good club, but not at all one of the top 10 in the country like they have been in recent years. Arguably aren't even the best club in Atlanta anymore.
Surf Zombie
GOLD
No doubt Tophat would still strengthen ECNL. They just aren't quite the powerhouse they have been over the past decade anymore. They lost a lot of good players to ECNL clubs (and in some cases pretty much entire teams) when Tophat was denied entry into ECNL.
It's a shame, and I hope Tophat and TSJ Virginia get into ECNL next year. Now that Beach and Legends are in, those two are probably the only elite clubs in the country still on the outside looking in (fwiw, I loosely define elite as having a Champions League level team in most every age group).