florida and disneyworld seem to be doing okay.
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florida and disneyworld seem to be doing okay.
Glitterhater
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Not arguing with you at all, but is that 1/19 a general number? Or specific to high risk? Not that either one is ok.. I'm just trying to understand.
yes. someone who gets covid at the age of 70+ has a one in 19 chance of surviving.
El Clasico
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CSL will not be starting in 20 days. The math is fairly easy. Pick a county, see what tier they are in and then count out the soonest available date that they can have full contact scrimmages. Add in the days needed to get to the level that allows for games and then add at least 2, and up to 4, weeks for organizations to get fields permits, goals, lining and everything else that goes into preparing for opening day. Don't forget to have back up fields for clubs in areas with city or school hold outs unwilling to rent their fields. You can do this for each county and understand that all counties need to be open for there to be enough fields. Not enough field space for most clubs to have only home games..
Colorado now has a building code requiring it for all new home builds.
SoccerFan4Life
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Read the stats? I’m not convinced you understand the stats you post.
People who are good at math don’t post a 94.7% survival rate like it’s a good thing. It means “one out of 19 dies”.
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I saw that it was less than 1% or 0.006% Once you factor in younger and under 70 you get much lower than 0.006
www.washingtontimes.com
People who are good at math don’t post a 94.7% survival rate like it’s a good thing. It means “one out of 19 dies”.
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I saw that it was less than 1% or 0.006% Once you factor in younger and under 70 you get much lower than 0.006
Chances of getting COVID-19 are slim, dying from it even slimmer
It is very unlikely that you will die from the coronavirus.
www.washingtontimes.com
Unless something has changed the specific guidelines for youth soccer relating to tiers does not exist .
Get what your saying but doesn't matter what tier a county is in. The youth sports guidance August from the state does'nt currently allow scrimmages or games. That needs to change before things can move forward. Some counties like LA have added other conditions on top of the state guidance.
USYS has now decided to do something, better late vs never but Cal South and other organizations should have done this before August and worked with the state closer like CIF. Instead what they put out where inadequate returns to play: do some camps for a couple weeks and then you can scrimmage two weeks later. Instead of this bogus return should have been a little bit more thoughtfull.
The state yes they have classified youth sports in a higher risk categories than what's reasonable but these youth sports organizations haven't done us any favors or helped much in correctly the oversite so they need to do a better job and take some of the responsibilities and actually get returns to play that don't look like a half backed effort to keep the $ following but don't do much else.
Why not do both.
Disneyworld in Florida reopened in July, at which time cases were 10,000 per day. Two months later cases are at 2750 per day. Disneyworld hasn't been an issue. Let them open. Jobs, revenue, entertainment, normalcy, safety. Safer than any of the stores I've been into where some people still don't wear masks.
FYI every park I've been to has basketball playing non-stop in the evenings. All the fields have soccer players. Games won't make any difference in the safety of kids.
I know you don't have the answer, nobody does. But you seem to be one of the more informed and realistic posters on here, so my question is what do you think the chances are that US Club sanctioned leagues will be playing around Thanksgiving? Here in SoCal (ECNL and ECRL specifically) just your best educated guess. Thanks @lafalafaGet what your saying but doesn't matter what tier a county is in. The youth sports guidance August from the state does'nt currently allow scrimmages or games. That needs to change before things can move forward. Some counties like LA have added other conditions on top of the state guidance.
USYS has now decided to do something, better late vs never but Cal South and other organizations should have done this before August and worked with the state closer like CIF. Instead what they put out where inadequate returns to play: do some camps for a couple weeks and then you can scrimmage two weeks later. Instead of this bogus return should have been a little bit more thoughtfull.
The state yes they have classified youth sports in a higher risk categories than what's reasonable but these youth sports organizations haven't done us any favors or helped much in correctly the oversite so they need to do a better job and take some of the responsibilities and actually get returns to play that don't look like a half backed effort to keep the $ following but don't do much else.
The Outlaw *BANNED*
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Hate to say it but the litigious society we created helped make this mess. Everyone is afraid to expose themselves to blame, ridicule and lawsuits. When all of US were kids, you were liable for your own stupidity... not anyone else's.
Messi>CR7
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That is correct and the core of the problem. CDPH's August document was last updated on Sep 18 and scrimmages/games are still banned. I don't have the previous version so I don't know what the updates are. But in the last paragraph you can see this document doesn't apply to college sports. Sep 18 was two days after Big10 decided to play fall football, so you can draw your own conclusion on whether the policy is based on $ or public health.
Youth Sports Q&A
www.cdph.ca.gov
That's why I stopped skateboarding barefoot.
It was stupid. And I did it for years.
The Outlaw *BANNED*
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That's why I stopped skateboarding barefoot.
No shit. In the 70's & 80's, if you took your Mongoose to some leftover pieces of board your father left in the garage, it was on you. Nowadays, they're suing Mongoose, the Wal Mart it was purchased at, the 64-year old guy getting paid $12 an hour to put a Mongoose together, Home Depot, U.S. Concrete Company, the homeowner's association, the city, the county, the United States and every neighbor that didn't warn you about being a jackass before the jump.
I was a GT or PK Ripper rider. But, I always wanted a Haro race bike.
Addendum: My brother built a half pipe in our backyard. We had everyone over on boards or bikes. The chaos and injuries. But, no parent ever said a word.
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The problem with Disneyland is that once you go there it's the whole ball of wax. You'd have a hard time telling people they can send their kid to Disneyland, but not to school or outdoor sports. You'd have a hard time telling the outdoor arenas they can't even open at half capacity. You'd have a hard time arguing to the churches they can't reopen at full capacity. You remove any justification for keeping the playgrounds closed.
California already saw that with the nail salon industry....if you open hair salons it's really hard to say no to the nail salons. What's worse is that everyone knows viruses tranmit at Disneyland due to the measles outbreak there. And we also know from Disney fan behavior over Labor Day in Downtown Disney that they will congregate.
So what's happening here is that California is caught between a rock and a hard place, with places like Anaheim screaming to open it up, but places like La County screaming to keep it closed (Universal would be next and they know the knives will be out for the schools to be open...remember La County isn't even giving elementary schools waivers). Think of the visuals: kids frolicking at Disneyland (which even in lower capacity can get congested at spots) then images of schools closed.
Who in LA County is screaming to “keep it closed”, the Mayor? Cause the people (outside of maybe the homeless who have thrived under this shelter in place) want it open.
Nothing there but math. 94.7% survival rate means 5.3% do not survive. 5.3% means 53/1000, or about 1/19. So, if people over 70 have a 94.7 survival rate, that’s just another way of saying 1 out of 19 people die.
I shouldn’t have responded. The thread has been killed by covid, and I helped.
Desert Hound
DA
And yet just down the road, Sea World is open.
gotothebushes
GOLD
Wait! Did you just say Mongoose?Wow those were the days.