Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

What say you@soccerhelper??? Not in for the win? Team bonding and some running? I thought... oh, wait that was EJ that was all in for the win!! :)

Seriously, I wish all the teams and their parents lucky enough to be going to AZ good luck and great times!
Like I said before, EJ is in da ground, buried for good. Cocky little bastard with a big chip on his shoulder. Big baby!!! Anyway, this is all about getting in shape and preparing for league and hopefully, June, next year's playoff. I put ego aside and now just one day at a time. EJ was wrong to let his pride get all envious over GDA and ECNL and this and all that. I will say, most of it was to just get the information I needed because my mind and eyes and ears were playing tricks on me. I needed some swift tough love discipline and boy, I got a nice ass kicking from mother life. I'm all peace & love brother Giesbock. Q, please share with soccer family your avatar meaning. Thanks
 
COVID deaths yesterday in Italy, Spain, UK, France, Germany = 122
COVID deaths yesterday in the USA = 1069

Population of Italy, Spain, UK, France, Germany = 324 million
Population of USA = 329 million

They got it more "right" than we did by a factor 9.
I just did a count of W Europe. 176k deaths. That is not by a factor of 9.

If we look at deaths in just the 5 countries you mentioned they have 147k deaths. So no they are not beating us by a factor of 9. Yes I know you are using a specific day. But since this thing has run over the course of 7 plus months now, look at the full data.

The US is actually at 331 million. So if you add in another euro country to get to about the same number lets say Belgium. Add in another 10k deaths. If you prefer a slightly smaller country use Sweden and add in 6k. Now you are in the 150k+ area.

176k deaths in Western Europe. US 195k deaths.

So no Europe didn't nail the response to the virus.

You can look up deaths and population all in one place on this site. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
 
More confession and saying I'm sorry to all the GA, GDA, DPL and other leagues in my past EJ days. It was my ego and I crossed over fellas and it feels realy refreshing and liberrating. EJ was being a punk for calling people elitist and 25%s. I see that now. My ego pride was all mad at everyone back then. I was rude a few times at GDA games in da early days. I also said disparaging things about levels of leagues and all that goat stuff. I swear 98% was all for fun, with some ego attached ((I promise I didnt understand what was going on and I was just poking around the forum)) and me just being a poker guy. Poking the bear so to speak.
 
SHERIFF AND OUTLAW BANNED FOR TWO WEEKS.

EOTL BANNED FOR 1 WEEK,
I truly appreciate that you are keeping politics out.

My concern is that it seems you are considering racism as politics. I don't get why that is?

An example, someone says Biden is this or that, or Trump is this or that,sure, that's politics. In reality I don't care about that. I'm sure most of us don't. (But having the forum clean from this is good).

There is a problem when you give what the Outlaw spews the same weight as true politics. Go and read his racist speech, the latest I saw, "hood rats". Obviously he's taking about black people. Go even further back, he has a whole rant where he is tacitly accepting his racism based on all this statistics and "facts" that he twists to fit in his narrative.

Why is that? Do you truly see racism the same as politics? Does saying "liberals suck" is the same to you as calling black people "hood rats"?
 
I truly appreciate that you are keeping politics out.

My concern is that it seems you are considering racism as politics. I don't get why that is?

An example, someone says Biden is this or that, or Trump is this or that,sure, that's politics. In reality I don't care about that. I'm sure most of us don't. (But having the forum clean from this is good).

There is a problem when you give what the Outlaw spews the same weight as true politics. Go and read his racist speech, the latest I saw, "hood rats". Obviously he's taking about black people. Go even further back, he has a whole rant where he is tacitly accepting his racism based on all this statistics and "facts" that he twists to fit in his narrative.

Why is that? Do you truly see racism the same as politics? Does saying "liberals suck" is the same to you as calling black people "hood rats"?
Thats probably why they got banned for 2 weeks instead of 1. but i understand people want to complain about everything, so go ahead and continue.
 
More confession and saying I'm sorry to all the GA, GDA, DPL and other leagues in my past EJ days. It was my ego and I crossed over fellas and it feels realy refreshing and liberrating. EJ was being a punk for calling people elitist and 25%s. I see that now. My ego pride was all mad at everyone back then. I was rude a few times at GDA games in da early days. I also said disparaging things about levels of leagues and all that goat stuff. I swear 98% was all for fun, with some ego attached ((I promise I didnt understand what was going on and I was just poking around the forum)) and me just being a poker guy. Poking the bear so to speak.
Don't lose next week to a non letter league AZ team, you won't be allowed back in! Ha

We are not participating in the festivities of the Cactus Kickoff. I'll pay attention to game scheduling/scores as they are updated.
 
I truly appreciate that you are keeping politics out.

My concern is that it seems you are considering racism as politics. I don't get why that is?

An example, someone says Biden is this or that, or Trump is this or that,sure, that's politics. In reality I don't care about that. I'm sure most of us don't. (But having the forum clean from this is good).

There is a problem when you give what the Outlaw spews the same weight as true politics. Go and read his racist speech, the latest I saw, "hood rats". Obviously he's taking about black people. Go even further back, he has a whole rant where he is tacitly accepting his racism based on all this statistics and "facts" that he twists to fit in his narrative.

Why is that? Do you truly see racism the same as politics? Does saying "liberals suck" is the same to you as calling black people "hood rats"?
I think Dominic's been pretty fair about it.

If I say soccer is closed because of politician X, I get warned or banned. Doesnt really matter if I blame Trump or Newsom.

It's done a lot to improve the site. He's not trying to fix our political opinions. He's just making it possible to talk soccer on a soccer forum.
 
I think Dominic's been pretty fair about it.

If I say soccer is closed because of politician X, I get warned or banned. Doesnt really matter if I blame Trump or Newsom.

It's done a lot to improve the site. He's not trying to fix our political opinions. He's just making it possible to talk soccer on a soccer forum.

It's his site. He's free to set the rules.

The problem with "racism" as a standard (as opposed to "talk about race") is that outside of obvious cases it's really hard to agree...there's some eye of the beholder stuff. Remember I got accused of racism various times (despite being a quadruple minority) and antisemitism (despite both my kids dating Jewish girls, one of whom wants to convert and marry her some day). Make it too loose of a standard and you open yourself up to a libel claim, make it too weak and you have a lot of whataboutism. Don't get it right and you get accused of being a racist moderator too. Probably more than he wants to chew off...I know I definitely wouldn't if I were running things.

The other things he could do is enforce a code of conduct for people who throw insults at each other but that presents the same problem as racism and we all insult each other with soccer topics too. He could also ban COVID talk at all in the soccer forum, but right now that leaves very few topics...can't even discuss Utah and AZ tournaments with that rule.

Rule making is tricky and carries with it a bunch of unintended conequences always. I, for one, appreciate his efforts.
 
The other things he could do is enforce a code of conduct for people who throw insults at each other but that presents the same problem as racism and we all insult each other with soccer topics too. He could also ban COVID talk at all in the soccer forum, but right now that leaves very few topics...can't even discuss Utah and AZ tournaments with that rule.

Rule making is tricky and carries with it a bunch of unintended conequences always. I, for one, appreciate his efforts.
From our end, we have some control - just don't respond to disrespectful posts. Move on. Address the people that that treat you with respect. Disagreements are fine, but disrespect shouldn't be given a response. In the words of Ricky Watters, "For who? For what?". It stopped me from responding many times.
 
Come on Kicker football before women's soccer? This is our problem we'd rather watch men in fully padded who gets 35 sec breaks between plays, time outs and commercial breaks! Rather than watching players run for 90 mins. LOL
You got me. But I did watch all of the Challenge Cup and the quarters thru Finals of the Women’s Champions League so I feel like I get a hall pass for the inaugural NFL game for the season :).
 
Easy Karens! The word idiot is used often and associated to more than just the white house. "Idiot parent", Idiot coach, etc. Dominic doesnt need more work to make you guys feel better.
Easy Karen? Ummmm I’m the one hiding from the Karen’s, LOL. He said no politics, and that statement was a political statement, therefore he should be banned if there was fairness.
 
I don't understand why people can't discuss anything without name calling. Each other and political figures. I don't agree with everything our President or our Governor have done, nor what another poster may comment on, and I might point that out here. But no need to name call or belittle other posters and people.

I can tell two people that the death rate is X%, and one will see that as too high, the other may see it as really low and very acceptable. The stat is the stat, how it is interpreted is based off that persons existing views. No need to disrespect people. We are better than that.
 
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