NWSL opening weekend

Sheriff Joe said:
Let’s just be thankful for the 2nd amendment, don’t worry, I will protect you after they get rid of the police.
Click to expand...
I know you will and so many others will too. My best friend Bruno has a mansion and told me and my family we can have the third floor. He built it for his parents before they died. I'm heading there sometime before the election. After that, we both bought some great property ((I will never share)) that has two house on it. I will never, ever be with a Karan or someone like Nurse Rachet over my life and watching my every move. This is not going to be easy fix after the elections, regardless of WHO wins. The Karen that I have a hard time with is the one's who used to scream in my face when I told her that babies in the womb are actually alive. This was in 1985 too. Oh my, it was hard times and very emotional. Today, we have cameras watching little guy play and be all safe. I learned over the years that woman have a lot of pain and abuse from the men on earth. That cannot be denied and it helps me understand their side more. I have had some of the best talks with woman over this and it's awesome. I'm not trying to over turn a law. I just want more adoptions. So instead of 1,500,000 a year aborted, maybe only 1,250,000 are aborted and extra 250,000 live each year. Again, were closing down everything to save 80 years olds. Let's save some babies too. That is a great start.
 
dad4 said:
Because most of us have an easier time recognizing faces from our own ethnic/social group.

If you grew up amidst Irish faces, Irish faces are easier to understand. If you grew up amidst Nigerian faces, Nigerian faces would be easier to understand.

Add in TV and movies, dont be surprised if the world views you and me by how much we do or do not look like the movie stars of 1970-2000
Click to expand...
Whoa buddy. This doesn’t explain why. Look at a picture of Rose Lavelle and Abigail Kim. Christen Press doesn’t look more like Abagail Kim than she does Rose Lavelle. I think it could go either way but for the 1 drop rule.

Still trying to keep hope alive for that utopian post racial society I see.
 
MacDre said:
Whoa buddy. This doesn’t explain why. Look at a picture of Rose Lavelle and Abigail Kim. Christen Press doesn’t look more like Abagail Kim than she does Rose Lavelle. I think it could go either way but for the 1 drop rule.

Still trying to keep hope alive for that utopian post racial society I see.
Click to expand...
That's what I mean. You are better at recognizing dark skinned faces than I am. People who look different to you look the same to me.

Why? My middle school had one black family, and my high school had zero. My brain didn't start training itself to see skin tones until I was 20 years old.

So, yes. Press and Kim look more alike to me than they do to you.

Come visit the post racial utopia. We can have chitterlings and haggis for dinner.
 
MacDre said:
This is dumb as fuck. Patronizing and offensive too. What have you done to ensure equality?

Why do you find it odd that a player would protest their country? Do you have kids? Do your kids protest some of the dumb ass shit that comes out of your mouth? If so, why does your dumb racist hillbilly ass find it odd that black folks would use sports as a platform to protest?
Click to expand...
So this is the problem. Instead of having a legitimate and useful discussion to bring about change people resort to calling me a "racist hillbilly ass" and attacking my words as "dumb ass shit" real mature and effective.
1. I don't like kneeling for the flag because it is not my view of respect for our country and the freedoms that we do have and the individuals that have fought to make sure the rights of individuals are protected.
2. Everyone has a right to do what they want, kneel, lay down, burn the flag whatever they want. That's the point, it is a free country.
3. My point was and is - if you feel such negativity about the country and you want to protest in this way why are you comfortable putting on a jersey with the same flag and representing this country? That is a disconnect. Use your celebrity and wealth to do something more, after you have gotten people's attention. Once they are done kneeling nothing else is done.
4. Can't really point a finger am me dude- My entire job is around doing something about these issues. In my work, all day long, I am involved in exactly what I am talking about - creating real change to correct discrimination and injustice and increasing access, resources and opportunities for individuals from diverse communities.
5. Try having a real, respectful conversation to create change not personal rude attacks that do nothing but create more hatred and discrimination.
 
Soccer43 said:
So this is the problem. Instead of having a legitimate and useful discussion to bring about change people resort to calling me a "racist hillbilly ass" and attacking my words as "dumb ass shit" real mature and effective.
1. I don't like kneeling for the flag because it is not my view of respect for our country and the freedoms that we do have and the individuals that have fought to make sure the rights of individuals are protected.
2. Everyone has a right to do what they want, kneel, lay down, burn the flag whatever they want. That's the point, it is a free country.
3. My point was and is - if you feel such negativity about the country and you want to protest in this way why are you comfortable putting on a jersey with the same flag and representing this country? That is a disconnect. Use your celebrity and wealth to do something more, after you have gotten people's attention. Once they are done kneeling nothing else is done.
4. Can't really point a finger am me dude- My entire job is around doing something about these issues. In my work, all day long, I am involved in exactly what I am talking about - creating real change to correct discrimination and injustice and increasing access, resources and opportunities for individuals from diverse communities.
5. Try having a real, respectful conversation to create change not personal rude attacks that do nothing but create more hatred and discrimination.
Click to expand...
Okay, I’ll be polite. I just have a low tolerance for what I perceive to be pure unadulterated passive aggressive bullshit. So, my bad.

Sir, could you please reconcile the position you take in #1 and #3 with your position in #2?
 
I don't know what reconciliation is needed. My personal belief is that I choose to show respect to the flag by standing as it reflects the good and the opportunities in our country for all citizens. There are a lot of bad people in the world that do hurtful things to others just because their skin color is different but rejecting the whole country doesn't fix that and just breeds more dissonance. But the beauty of this country is freedom. People have the right to think and behave differently than me. My point has always been, if you have disdain for this country why would you want to represent it on the international stage? They have a right to kneel but I am calling on them to do something real that takes real sacrifice behind one simple action for 1 min and 40 seconds.
 
MacDre said:
I’m a “safe” black that benefits from white privilege. You know like the kind of blacks on the USWNT and the one in the white house a few years ago. Or like the ones where white men built black colleges to educate their illegitimate kids.
Click to expand...
What part of success, or lack thereof, do you feel individual blacks are responsible for?
 
met61 said:
What part of success, or lack thereof, do you feel individual blacks are responsible for?
Click to expand...
Maybe the problem with your understanding is that you are framing the issue wrong. The issue is not success or lack there of. The issue is the lack of equal opportunity.

Got it hard charger? Let’s isolate the issue and debate. I will destroy you like those that preceded you because I have the truth on my side.
 
MacDre said:
Maybe the problem with your understanding is that you are framing the issue wrong. The issue is not success or lack there of. The issue is the lack of equal opportunity.

Got it hard charger? Let’s isolate the issue and debate. I will destroy you like those that preceded you because I have the truth on my side.
Click to expand...
The issue? Who said major societal problems only have one cause?

That's some pretty serious trash talk for someone who leads with a single cause fallacy.
 
MacDre said:
Why do you have such an old school narrow definition of racist? You are a racist because you put form over substance. Instead of addressing police brutality against blacks you’d rather attack the black mans form instead of doing anything substantive to resolve the problem of police brutality. What have you done with to ensure equality for all that has been more effective than kneeling?
By the way, do you still think kneeling is a bad idea?
Click to expand...

And you put skin color over right and wrong. And let's face it, when blacks kill each other 10 times more than cops do, but all you give a fuck about is bashing cops so you can get away with more crime, nobody believes or supports your bullshit.

If you want equality for your race... start holding black people accountable.
 
MacDre said:
This is dumb as fuck. Patronizing and offensive too. What have you done to ensure equality?

Why do you find it odd that a player would protest their country? Do you have kids? Do your kids protest some of the dumb ass shit that comes out of your mouth? If so, why does your dumb racist hillbilly ass find it odd that black folks would use sports as a platform to protest?
Click to expand...

Nobody finds black whining as odd. When you can't compete without the bar already being lowered, it's not like anyone expects you to look in the mirror. A failed race will play victim... all the while murdering itself at the tune of 50 times per month.
 
dad4 said:
Evidence:

You are arguing that, because lack of opportunity is an issue, lack of success must not be an issue.

Not logical. Why can't I believe that lack of opportunity is one important issue among many?
Click to expand...
Incorrect. I’m saying I have never advocated for or against the success of black folks. I’m saying the issue that blacks folks are raising now and in the past is the lack of equal opportunity.
Finally, I’m saying debating success is a red herring.
 
MacDre said:
Incorrect. I’m saying I have never advocated for or against the success of black folks. I’m saying the issue that blacks folks are raising now and in the past is the lack of equal opportunity.
Finally, I’m saying debating success is a red herring.
Click to expand...
There it is again. “the issue”.

Lack of opportunity is an issue, and one that I agree is important.

Now why should I believe it is “the issue”, to the exclusion of all other issues?
 
dad4 said:
There it is again. “the issue”.

Lack of opportunity is an issue, and one that I agree is important.

Now why should I believe it is “the issue”, to the exclusion of all other issues?
Click to expand...
It doesn’t matter what you believe. This is not about you. Look at the history. Was overturning separate but EQUAL about success or equality? Were Dr. Kings speeches about success or equality?

Your piss poor attempt to throw a red herring at me is a clear example of what modern day racism often looks like. It’s kinda pathetic that you want to pontificate about the success or lack their of for a group that never had equality.

I see you don’t want to debate the lack of equality in the black community because you know I will destroy you too.

Talking about success is not my job.
 
MacDre said:
It doesn’t matter what you believe. This is not about you. Look at the history. Was overturning separate but EQUAL about success or equality? Were Dr. Kings speeches about success or equality?

Your piss poor attempt to throw a red herring at me is a clear example of what modern day racism often looks like. It’s kinda pathetic that you want to pontificate about the success or lack their of for a group that never had equality.

I see you don’t want to debate the lack of equality in the black community because you know I will destroy you too.

Talking about success is not my job.
Click to expand...
Ok. It doesn’t matter what I believe.

Why should anyone believe that lack of equal opportunity is the issue, to the exclusion of all other issues?

I‘m not debating you about lack of opportunity, because I sense we agree it is part of the problem.

I am debating you about whether there are other parts of the problem that also need to be addressed.

And why bother with “piss poor”, “i will destroy you” and the trash talk? You just repeated the same argument and added “whoo yeah, I crushed you.”. And tossed in a sideways racism accusation.

Can you, without bragging or accusing me of racism, tell me why historic and current lack of opportunity should be considered the ONLY issue?

Or, do we agree that there is more than one underlying problem, and we can stop arguing about it?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top