Simple Science
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Sheriff Joe
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Bruddah IZ
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How did you like the examples of those that stuck to the science. The consensus folks crack me up. Greta to the rescue!!
Sheriff Joe
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No arguing those facts.
Too bad the lib crowd won’t listen to it.
Science is a matter of convenience to them.
Bruddah IZ
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Gretaʻs Goonies
Bruddah.......Thank you oh soooooooooo much for posting Dr. Patrick Moore....!!
It's refreshing to see that YOU understand enough of the FALSE PREMISE that
has been put forth to catch the subtleties he presents that absolutely destroys the
ignorant/lemming talking points they spew/regurgitate....
I have laughed at many an idiot that tried to sell me the Carbon " Footprint "
koolaid.....especially when that is my foundation....
Al Gore should be in JAIL for the crap he did with his junk science premise
that ended up being a Ponzi scheme to extort monies from Nations......
Not many people caught on to the fact that he did it to AMERICA specifically
and I strongly feel he did it as retribution for losing the election....
Does that statement sound familiar.......of course it does...
Climate Change LIES....
Russian Collusion LIES.....
Where's the connection.....The Filthy Clinton's ( The Modern Day Plague ! ).....!
It's refreshing to see that YOU understand enough of the FALSE PREMISE that
has been put forth to catch the subtleties he presents that absolutely destroys the
ignorant/lemming talking points they spew/regurgitate....
I have laughed at many an idiot that tried to sell me the Carbon " Footprint "
koolaid.....especially when that is my foundation....
Al Gore should be in JAIL for the crap he did with his junk science premise
that ended up being a Ponzi scheme to extort monies from Nations......
Not many people caught on to the fact that he did it to AMERICA specifically
and I strongly feel he did it as retribution for losing the election....
Does that statement sound familiar.......of course it does...
Climate Change LIES....
Russian Collusion LIES.....
Where's the connection.....The Filthy Clinton's ( The Modern Day Plague ! ).....!
Bruddah IZ
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They are anti-human flourishing.
Sheriff Joe
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Where Are the Real Scientists?
Gil Gutknecht | Nov 03, 2019 12:01 AM
Source: AP Photo/Sam McNeil
About 45 years ago, a handful of climatologists surrendered to new evidence and switched sides. They moved from predicting a coming ice age to warning of the dangers of impending global warming. With the promise of a flood of federal grants, they were joined by a growing chorus of academics. They began chirping the warming alarms like a house full of defective smoke detectors. Today that theory has become so mainstream in academia that anyone who even questions it will be banished from the campus.
Without much empirical evidence, they assigned the blame for their predictions of the coming atmospheric calamity. It was CO2. More to the point, it was human activity in general and American’s insatiable demand for fossil fuel energy in particular. Never mind the fact that carbon dioxide makes up a tiny fraction of our atmosphere. They had their computer models, hockey stick charts and of course, a consensus. Most experts are willing to concede that carbon dioxide levels have been increasing. Many even agree that human activity contributes to this. Historic data concerning the correlation between global temperatures and CO2 levels is less conclusive.
Missing from a serious discussion of these matters is the role that plants play in mitigating any CO2 increase. It is well understood that plants consume carbon dioxide and express oxygen. As carbon levels in the atmosphere increase, so will plant growth. Everyone who grows things in hot houses knows this.
After a decade of data which did not support the warming theory or their hockey stick predictions, the alarmists again pivoted. Alarmists dismissed this as a pause. They conveniently replaced “global warming” with “climate change”. If there wasn’t evidence to support their hockey stick chart, there was daily evidence of change. The same people who tell us not to confuse climate with weather are the first to rush to the microphones whenever there is a wild fire, flood or hurricane on the horizon. All as if discerning people wouldn’t notice. Some of us noticed. Americans became more skeptical. So did a small group of scientists who were brave enough to start asking serious questions and reviewing the data.
Not that long ago, that was what most scientists did.
One such skeptic is Tony Heller. He is not a climate scientist. (Neither is Al Gore or Bill Nye, the Science Guy.) Heller is a computer scientist who enjoys digging into data. He has a website, realclimatescience.com. His YouTube video My Gift to Climate Alarmists is well worth the watch. In it, he demonstrates just how charts are manipulated by the climate alarmists. By selectively setting the beginning or ending date of a particular graph or chart, it can be made to fit their narrative. It is deliciously deceptive.
One such example is a chart that demonstrates rising sea levels. Since the end of the last ice age, sea levels have risen by 400 feet. Somehow life on earth adapted. Alarmists claim that the rate of this rise has increased in recent years due to climate change. But, Heller points out that if you simply extend the chart back to the time of Abraham Lincoln, you will see that sea levels, as measured at Battery Park on lower Manhattan, have increased at a fairly steady 2.84 millimeters annually. He also shows how sea ice charts are being manipulated. Heller has even developed a software program so that you can debug the alarmist’s charts at home.
Dr. Patrick Moore was a co-founder of Greenpeace and remains a self-described environmentalist. He too has become a healthy skeptic of the climate alarmists. In his book Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout, he uses some of the same charts as Heller. Dr. Moore puts the climate hysteria into some perspective. As the Left is want to do, he has been personally maligned by the alarmists. They seldom challenge his facts. The facts, like the skeptics, are not their friends.
The real question is where are the real scientists? The ones who claim to believe in the scientific method where theories were meant to be challenged. The ones who believed that science by consensus was an oxymoron.
Peer pressure may be powerful. But never forget, so are facts.
Gil Gutknecht | Nov 03, 2019 12:01 AM
Source: AP Photo/Sam McNeil
About 45 years ago, a handful of climatologists surrendered to new evidence and switched sides. They moved from predicting a coming ice age to warning of the dangers of impending global warming. With the promise of a flood of federal grants, they were joined by a growing chorus of academics. They began chirping the warming alarms like a house full of defective smoke detectors. Today that theory has become so mainstream in academia that anyone who even questions it will be banished from the campus.
Without much empirical evidence, they assigned the blame for their predictions of the coming atmospheric calamity. It was CO2. More to the point, it was human activity in general and American’s insatiable demand for fossil fuel energy in particular. Never mind the fact that carbon dioxide makes up a tiny fraction of our atmosphere. They had their computer models, hockey stick charts and of course, a consensus. Most experts are willing to concede that carbon dioxide levels have been increasing. Many even agree that human activity contributes to this. Historic data concerning the correlation between global temperatures and CO2 levels is less conclusive.
Missing from a serious discussion of these matters is the role that plants play in mitigating any CO2 increase. It is well understood that plants consume carbon dioxide and express oxygen. As carbon levels in the atmosphere increase, so will plant growth. Everyone who grows things in hot houses knows this.
After a decade of data which did not support the warming theory or their hockey stick predictions, the alarmists again pivoted. Alarmists dismissed this as a pause. They conveniently replaced “global warming” with “climate change”. If there wasn’t evidence to support their hockey stick chart, there was daily evidence of change. The same people who tell us not to confuse climate with weather are the first to rush to the microphones whenever there is a wild fire, flood or hurricane on the horizon. All as if discerning people wouldn’t notice. Some of us noticed. Americans became more skeptical. So did a small group of scientists who were brave enough to start asking serious questions and reviewing the data.
Not that long ago, that was what most scientists did.
One such skeptic is Tony Heller. He is not a climate scientist. (Neither is Al Gore or Bill Nye, the Science Guy.) Heller is a computer scientist who enjoys digging into data. He has a website, realclimatescience.com. His YouTube video My Gift to Climate Alarmists is well worth the watch. In it, he demonstrates just how charts are manipulated by the climate alarmists. By selectively setting the beginning or ending date of a particular graph or chart, it can be made to fit their narrative. It is deliciously deceptive.
One such example is a chart that demonstrates rising sea levels. Since the end of the last ice age, sea levels have risen by 400 feet. Somehow life on earth adapted. Alarmists claim that the rate of this rise has increased in recent years due to climate change. But, Heller points out that if you simply extend the chart back to the time of Abraham Lincoln, you will see that sea levels, as measured at Battery Park on lower Manhattan, have increased at a fairly steady 2.84 millimeters annually. He also shows how sea ice charts are being manipulated. Heller has even developed a software program so that you can debug the alarmist’s charts at home.
Dr. Patrick Moore was a co-founder of Greenpeace and remains a self-described environmentalist. He too has become a healthy skeptic of the climate alarmists. In his book Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout, he uses some of the same charts as Heller. Dr. Moore puts the climate hysteria into some perspective. As the Left is want to do, he has been personally maligned by the alarmists. They seldom challenge his facts. The facts, like the skeptics, are not their friends.
The real question is where are the real scientists? The ones who claim to believe in the scientific method where theories were meant to be challenged. The ones who believed that science by consensus was an oxymoron.
Peer pressure may be powerful. But never forget, so are facts.
He loves chlorinated water and nuclear power. He's perfect for Huckabee and the idiots who pay attention to him.
Have you read what the internationally respected science community says about this crackpot? LOL!
"Patrick Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries for more than 30 years, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries. Most of these industries hired Mr. Moore only after becoming the focus of a Greenpeace campaign to improve their environmental performance. Mr. Moore has now worked for polluters for far longer than he ever worked for Greenpeace."
Greenpeace Statement On Patrick Moore
Patrick Moore often misrepresents himself in the media as an environmental “expert” or even an “environmentalist,” while offering anti-environmental opinions on a wide range of issues and taking a distinctly anti-environmental stance. He also exploits long-gone ties with Greenpeace to sell...
www.greenpeace.org
Bruddah IZ
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Yes. And I respect and encourage that science communities choice to consume as much fossil fuel as they choose. While they cite each others work. Lol!
Bruddah IZ
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You anti-science folks crack me up."Patrick Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries for more than 30 years, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries. Most of these industries hired Mr. Moore only after becoming the focus of a Greenpeace campaign to improve their environmental performance. Mr. Moore has now worked for polluters for far longer than he ever worked for Greenpeace."
Greenpeace Statement On Patrick Moore
Patrick Moore often misrepresents himself in the media as an environmental “expert” or even an “environmentalist,” while offering anti-environmental opinions on a wide range of issues and taking a distinctly anti-environmental stance. He also exploits long-gone ties with Greenpeace to sell...
Bruddah IZ
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Nuclear powered Submarines, Cruisers, and Aircraft Carriers. It seems to have worked well for over 40 years. Maybe we should plug them in while in port.
Sheriff Joe
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The 97%?
Wise up.
Maybe we should make the commercial reactor operators run them like the Navy does - three watches around the clock, with rotating 90-day tours where the operators sleep in the reactor building.
"Patrick Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries for more than 30 years, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries. Most of these industries hired Mr. Moore only after becoming the focus of a Greenpeace campaign to improve their environmental performance. Mr. Moore has now worked for polluters for far longer than he ever worked for Greenpeace."
Greenpeace Statement On Patrick Moore
Patrick Moore often misrepresents himself in the media as an environmental “expert” or even an “environmentalist,” while offering anti-environmental opinions on a wide range of issues and taking a distinctly anti-environmental stance. He also exploits long-gone ties with Greenpeace to sell...
Show definitive PROOF ....Ya Proven LIAR.
Bruddah IZ
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If the goal is CO2 reduction.
Bruddah IZ
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How many Nuclear Energy deaths have occured in the U.S. You know? So we can move on and reduce CO2 in the atmosphere like the U.S. Navy has been doing for the last 40 plus years
Multi Sport
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The response that e post should be entertaining...
It's not danger that will delay the inevitable growth of nuclear power in the US. It's politics.
And managerial incompetence, as we witnessed at Chernobyl and to a less dangerous (but economically devastating degree) at San Onofre.