Ponderable

 
Lion Eyes said:
Nice rebuttal counselor, I understand why you don't appear in court.
I listed three sources. Is your blah blah blah bullshit for all three?
https://www.cato.org/publications/c...obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realsp...nstitutional-violations-of-2013/#7b94b8dc7667
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...constitutional-legacy/?utm_term=.6fcba3786f8f
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These are opinion pieces, why haven't these actions been challenged in court like dump's religious bans have been?
 
Wez said:
Why don't you be specific on what Obama did and let's see what I think of it and what I may have said?

In the meantime, you think it's ok to violate the Constitution because someone else did in the past?
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I posted three sources that listed where Obama's "sop" was ignoring the Constitution....pick one out.
DACA is one of those times he ignored the Constitution and issued an executive order...a little credit in that BHO said at the time the issue needed to be addressed by Congress.
Trump through it back to Congress which is where it belongs and a flock of pc jackass screamed racism... Congress should do their job and send Trump an immigration bill.
 
...why haven't these actions been challenged in court like dump's religious bans have been?



The U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals blocked a series of President Obama’s executive orders on immigration on Monday night, frustrating the administration’s efforts to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation and delivering a major setback to a core policy initiative of the president’s second-term agenda.* The Justice Department said on Tuesday morning that it would appeal the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

A three-judge panel ruled against the Obama administration on a 2-1 vote in Texas v. United States, upholding a lower court’s injunction against two programs. Obama created one of the programs, called Deferred Action for Parents of Americans, or DAPA, and expanded another, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA in a unilateral effort to reshape the U.S. immigration system after the 2014 midterm elections. Texas and 25 other states sued the United States soon thereafter, in an attempt to halt the executive actions.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/fifth-circuit-obama-immigration/415077/
 
Wez said:
You linked 3 opinion pieces and I asked you to discuss the merits of any one of it's claims specifically.
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Good lord read something for once...
...why haven't these actions been challenged in court like dump's religious bans have been?



The U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals blocked a series of President Obama’s executive orders on immigration on Monday night, frustrating the administration’s efforts to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation and delivering a major setback to a core policy initiative of the president’s second-term agenda.* The Justice Department said on Tuesday morning that it would appeal the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

A three-judge panel ruled against the Obama administration on a 2-1 vote in Texas v. United States, upholding a lower court’s injunction against two programs. Obama created one of the programs, called Deferred Action for Parents of Americans, or DAPA, and expanded another, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA in a unilateral effort to reshape the U.S. immigration system after the 2014 midterm elections. Texas and 25 other states sued the United States soon thereafter, in an attempt to halt the executive actions.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/fifth-circuit-obama-immigration/415077/
 
Lion Eyes said:
Good lord read something for once...
...why haven't these actions been challenged in court like dump's religious bans have been?



The U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals blocked a series of President Obama’s executive orders on immigration on Monday night, frustrating the administration’s efforts to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation and delivering a major setback to a core policy initiative of the president’s second-term agenda.* The Justice Department said on Tuesday morning that it would appeal the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

A three-judge panel ruled against the Obama administration on a 2-1 vote in Texas v. United States, upholding a lower court’s injunction against two programs. Obama created one of the programs, called Deferred Action for Parents of Americans, or DAPA, and expanded another, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA in a unilateral effort to reshape the U.S. immigration system after the 2014 midterm elections. Texas and 25 other states sued the United States soon thereafter, in an attempt to halt the executive actions.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/fifth-circuit-obama-immigration/415077/
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We know DACA is under fire, it's in current headlines, I was referring to all the other claims being made in those articles.
 
Supreme Court’s Decision on
Immigration Case Affects Millions
of Unauthorized Immigrants
By HAEYOUN PARK and ALICIA PARLAPIANO JUNE 23, 2016

The Supreme Court announced a 4-4 decision in a case
challenging President Obama’s plan to shield as many as five
million unauthorized immigrants from deportation and to
allow them to work in the United States. The decision leaves
in place an appeals court ruling blocking the president’s
ambitious plan, dealing a sharp blow to a program that Mr.
Obama had hoped would be one of his central legacies.

Just under half of the nation’s unauthorized immigrant population – estimated currently at about 11 million – could have potentially benefited from programs President Obama announced in November 2014.

Mr. Obama’s programs for parents and children – Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents, known as DAPA, and Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA – would have protected three categories of unauthorized immigrants:

DAPA (parents)

Unauthorized parents of children who are United States citizens or legal permanent residents born on or before Nov. 20, 2014. To qualify, parents must have been in the United States since Jan.1, 2010.


DACA (children)

Unauthorized immigrants born after June 15, 1981 who were brought to the United States before their 16th birthday and have been in the country since June 15, 2007.


Expanded DACA (children)

Unauthorized immigrants brought to the United States as children before January 2010.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...by-supreme-court-decision-on-immigration.html
 
Lion Eyes said:
Supreme Court’s Decision on
Immigration Case Affects Millions
of Unauthorized Immigrants
By HAEYOUN PARK and ALICIA PARLAPIANO JUNE 23, 2016

The Supreme Court announced a 4-4 decision in a case
challenging President Obama’s plan to shield as many as five
million unauthorized immigrants from deportation and to
allow them to work in the United States. The decision leaves
in place an appeals court ruling blocking the president’s
ambitious plan, dealing a sharp blow to a program that Mr.
Obama had hoped would be one of his central legacies.

Just under half of the nation’s unauthorized immigrant population – estimated currently at about 11 million – could have potentially benefited from programs President Obama announced in November 2014.

Mr. Obama’s programs for parents and children – Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents, known as DAPA, and Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA – would have protected three categories of unauthorized immigrants:

DAPA (parents)

Unauthorized parents of children who are United States citizens or legal permanent residents born on or before Nov. 20, 2014. To qualify, parents must have been in the United States since Jan.1, 2010.


DACA (children)

Unauthorized immigrants born after June 15, 1981 who were brought to the United States before their 16th birthday and have been in the country since June 15, 2007.


Expanded DACA (children)

Unauthorized immigrants brought to the United States as children before January 2010.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...by-supreme-court-decision-on-immigration.html
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Didn't you just post this??
 
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