You are shit and a tool. You have no idea of what you are talking about. Actually you do, you are just shamelessly pushing your agenda, it is just too bad that clueless parent may be reading your nonsense and be fooled by it. GDA was significantly better than ECNL, at least it had minimum requirements for training days, size of the training fields, the quality of the pitch, etc. Not even when they were playing ulittle my kids played in some of the shitty fields they have played in the last two years. You have no clue about soccer, I go the opposite way in everything you spuke and my kid is at the very top of her age group in this country.
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I believe you're the one who thinks girls are less capable. I mean in your mind you don't think they should bother with fundamentals or other methodologies and that everything is fine. What about all those "alphas" you speak of? You know, the ones really passionate for the sport? Perhaps your apathy and complacency is holding them back? Oh right, you have a vision of what girls should be doing with their time, you know riding horses and having boyfriends. You've put kids into boxes -- you, my friend, don't know up from down and are holding women back. You've got some serious gatekeeping issues.
I think top clubs in the US should be focusing on development and not emphasize "win-now". I couldn't care less what happens in rec, smaller clubs, or even 3rd teams at top clubs.
I care in the same way I care about academics, music, etc. The difference here is we're on socalsoccer.com, not socalacademics.com or socalmusic.com.
GoldenGate
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Yes, I push the agenda of not worrying about the state of girls soccer in the US or trying to change anything. So nefarious. BTW, if GDA was so much better than ECNL, ECNL would not have killed it in less than three years. Sure, GDA was so great that 40 of its clubs told it to piss off within the first two years. Honestly, I can't imagine anything more brilliant than forcing every 13 year old girl in America who wants to continue playing soccer at a high level practice it four nights a week, every week, four four years. Especially if they get to practice on such nicely manicured and well-sized fields.
Quick question. If your little princess is so great, wtf are you complaining about? That her teammates lack sufficient "cognitive" understanding of the "complexities" of the "beautiful game" to pass her the ball as much as you'd prefer? They just lack the "vision" to get her the ball where your little princess can finish it? Are you upset that other parents just don't understand how important it is for their teenage girls to give up everything else in life to train four nights a week, every week? If only they understood how important soccer is to you, they would surely drop two grand on some TOVO videos, and then every little girl would play soccer to your satisfaction, right?
I am going to give you some advice. Tying your self-esteem to your daughter's ability to play soccer like you are doing is a very bad idea. But carry on telling us how great she is, so therefore people should listen to you when you say that America must restructure youth soccer in America before it is too late.
GoldenGate
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No, I just don't think the vast majority of kids should waste their time on the "cognitive" "complexities" of the "beautiful game" as you'd like. The alphas who really care are doing just fine the way things are. I know that because the USWNT beats just about everyone all the time. I also know it because the two soccer utopias that all of you love so much (Spain and France) have never won a knockout stage game in a major tournament and the other has never made a final - in the entire history of planet earth. I honestly think you and your friends gravitate to losers like this because that is all you know.
But maybe you are right. Maybe Catarina Macario, and Trinity Rodman, and Sophia Smith, would all be better soccer players if only I weren't so complacent. It's just so pathetic that no one in the US ever developed them at all, am I right? It is despicable what those shit clubs Surf, and Blues, and Real CO did to those girls, right? Maybe the USWNT might have won a WC or four if only American players had spent more time learning the "cognitive" "complexities" of the "beautiful game"? If only we had deemphasized winning and instead spent it watching online TOVO videos.
The comparison to Ferrari dealerships is just perfection
These conversations are happening in basketball at the high levels
is Europe doing a better job of developing their basketball players?
Now this may just be the Doncic bias going on, but they are going on
Elite level basketball has shoe money involved, so a little different
but nothing wrong with asking the questions
Even Parlow has said that the sport could be more accessible in this country
is Europe doing a better job of developing their basketball players?
Now this may just be the Doncic bias going on, but they are going on
Elite level basketball has shoe money involved, so a little different
but nothing wrong with asking the questions
Even Parlow has said that the sport could be more accessible in this country
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Most of Catarina Macario's skill development was in Brazil. I was at her first game in the US.
I watched her live in Del mar and so did my dd. She has one of, if not, the best work ethic out there. She does not stop and plays hard on every play at practice and in the games. I think she helped Lyon with top trophy in Spain. She is amazing player and hope she heals fast from her ACL. I played hoops Outside. I was NOT a very good practice player. I hated practice to be honest and gave it 75%. When the lights came on and we had real game, watch out because I was going to be all over you. I took charges, I was a pest to the big guys and played crazy but in control. It was adrenalin that was only made in the games. My coach would give me crap because I didn't bring that energy to practice. Well, his practices were shit and he yelled at us all the time and even tried to get us all to go to his church to be saved.
GoldenGate
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I see, so you're admitting that it really doesn't matter what youth clubs teach because, like Macario, girls learn what they need to know about the "cognitive" "complexities" of the "beautiful game" by 11 years old? That she learned everything she needed to know by the time she was 12 years old when she moved here? Or are you admitting that pure athleticism like she possesses is far more important than "technical skill"? Or are you saying the US should be like Brazil because that country does so well at developing female soccer players?
What is your point? My point is that Surf, ECNL and Stanford helped convert an incredibly athletic 12 year old girl into someone who may end up becoming the best female soccer player who ever lived, and that it is ridiculous to discount that just because she was really good when she was 11. My point is that she also has the most valuable asset she could possibly have if her injury bug continues (a Stanford degree), which by itself makes the American youth "system" better than wtf goes on down in Brazil. Or Spain. Or anywhere else.
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oh come on...don't cherry pick. The idea that "everyone" needs to learn better skills or the rest of the world will pass by is silly.
I agree with the lack of focus from many clubs...it's not changing..ever. I would recommnd to stop whining and go find a club that fits your requirement, they are out there. The idea that the rest of the world will "pass us by" is silly.....Anyone watch the England Sweden game?
Nope, but I watched the UEFA u19 final between ESP and NOR.....
Had a great conversation with our "princess" the other day. It went something like:
princess: Why is girls soccer so much different than boys soccer?
me: What do you mean?
princess: They just seem to have so much more control of the ball and they're not running into each all over the place.
me: Well princess, @GoldenGate thinks you just need to realize the girls game is just different from the boys game and you should just accept that.
princess: That doesn't make any sense.
me: @GoldenGate thinks it would be better if you spent time with a boyfriend and riding horses.
princess: But I really love soccer and want to get better at it.
me: Sorry princess, @GoldenGate thinks you're basically wasting your time with those aspirations. And, as we all know, @GoldenGate knows all.
princess: Why is girls soccer so much different than boys soccer?
me: What do you mean?
princess: They just seem to have so much more control of the ball and they're not running into each all over the place.
me: Well princess, @GoldenGate thinks you just need to realize the girls game is just different from the boys game and you should just accept that.
princess: That doesn't make any sense.
me: @GoldenGate thinks it would be better if you spent time with a boyfriend and riding horses.
princess: But I really love soccer and want to get better at it.
me: Sorry princess, @GoldenGate thinks you're basically wasting your time with those aspirations. And, as we all know, @GoldenGate knows all.
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SILVER ELITE
good game, evenly matched - went deep into extra time. The better match was France/Spain.
GoldenGate
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It is no wonder that you have no idea how soccer is won at the highest levels. Still bitter and confused that your circus juggling friends had so much possession but still had their asses handed to them by England and Germany?
You clearly do not understand Spanish soccer based on your "circus juggling" comment. Of course you probably also don't know Cruyff's view on juggling either.
MacDre
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Definitely good clubs and coaches out there. I actually think the majority of the problem lies with the players and referees. I think the refs could call games tighter and essentially eliminate bully ball. In terms of players, I think overall there’s a lack of interest/passion for soccer. The girls on my kids team could care less about soccer outside of practice so, even if more clubs were better, I don’t think the culture/passion is there yet for the players to take advantage of improved conditions if clubs were to offer it.
GoldenGate
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No one is stopping your daughter from becoming the best soccer player she can be. Let me ask you this, though. In 10 years, where will your princess be in life compared to those girls whose first touches the two of you mock? Where will she be compared to those who, instead of spending/wasting hours on end perfecting their first touches, instead spent it on something else? Like improving their piano or guitar skills, spending it in a robotics club, working gainful employment, volunteering, or even reading literature? Shoot, where will she be compared to the pretty ones doing duckface and peddling crap on the 'gram and Tiktok? Will they all be disgusted sitting around the TV just so angry that the USWNT is losing to a bunch of Spanish circus jugglers because Trinity Rodman and Catarina Macario failed to develop to their full potential because their youth coaches failed to spend $5,000 learning the "TOVO system"?
The truth is your daughter will never play for the national team. She'll never make more money playing soccer than should could have made working FT at Starbucks. I also get the impression she'll never even leverage her soccer into a meaningfully better college opportunity. In fact, if you're like most of the others here who share your sensibilities, I'm guessing she ends up chasing the soccer dream at a college that is worse academically and hinders her professional development more than the college she would have chosen if she wasn't worried about disappointing her dad by hanging up the cleats. In the end, odds are very high that she will end up bitter that she wasted so much time watching TOVO modules when she could have been creating fond memories.
Why does it matter so much to you that other people's kids and their parents do not share your belief that soccer is just so important that thousands of little girls "need" to be better at it? Why does that make you so angry that they believe it is a kiddie game played by children and treat it accordingly? Why is it so important to you that other people's daughters become better soccer players? How would your life, or anyone's, improve if more little girls give up music lessons and robotics to focus on first touches? In the end, the irony of all of this is that people like you never end up with the soccer player you expected and were hoping for.
GoldenGate
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I am sure your daughter has spent many hours studying the great Cruyff. Good for her. I can't imagine a more important way to for a teenage girl to spend her time. Worshipping the total futbol god has worked so well for Spain's circus jugglers.
Well @GoldenGate this is probably going to blow your mind, but you don't know my kids and what they're into (which is much more than just soccer). You seem to be under the assumption that anyone who posts on a soccer forum that they have nothing else going on in life. You really like putting people in boxes, regardless of the limited amount of data you have to do so. I get it, it allows you to admonish people which probably creates some kind of endorphin rush and makes you feel good inside. But, let's be honest, you have no interest in having a conversation nor are you adding any real value to this conversation. Every single one of your manifestos could be summarized with "US girls soccer is good, no need to change anything". Like literally all of your other words are wasted bits on the Internet -- like plastic in the great pacific garbage patch.
For what it's worth, I have zero motivation for any of my kids to play professional, on the national team, or in college. I mean how could I? I'm not them. We let our kids lead with their interests. We help them however we can. I'm a firm believer sport (especially team based sports) provide valuable life building blocks that they will carry on through their lives. One thing I'm not fond of is someone, you, saying the girls game is different than the boys game....just because. I get your reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, but if you have been paying attention, you would have seen that I'm actually advocating for a less intense, less anxiety prone, environment in soccer for girls. Hearing parents, who have no idea what they're talking about, on the sidelines yelling at their "alphas" to "go get her" is what I'm advocating against. Perhaps you're one of those parents. You certainly don't seem to care about concussion rates in girls soccer.
There's no anger over on this keyboard. Just discussing the state of girls soccer in the US and how it could potentially be different if parents/players demanded higher quality play over wins. Eventually I will be proven right at an international level.
You should finish your googling on Cruyff...you didn't get to the juggling part.