Bruddah IZ
DA
Nonsense. As usual.
Bad News Thread
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Yes. Seroprevalence studies are useful for that. The hard part is finding an estimate for the strength of natural immunity relative to the new variants.
We know that Pfizer is about 88% effective at preventing serious disease from Delta. I have not yet found a similar estimate for natural immunity. I’ve been using 0.8, but that’s just a swag.
Under those assumptions, even relatively high vaccination areas like San Jose are falling short, after including natural immunity. 70% instead of 85%. So we could see another 15% of total pop get infected this winter- including any reinfections.
Other options are vaccinating more people, going back to masks this winter, reimposing restrictions on the unvaccinated for the winter only, or some combination of the three.
Multi Sport
DA
Where do vaccinated people getting reinfected fit into your plan?
You are what you eat. You are what you drink. You are what you think. You are a human being.....Love you bro. Soon this will get better. This is a mental war and war in our brains. Eat and drink healthy and then work on the soul. Some people try and skip all the hard work and just act like they feel good. Nope, you have to start with not eating tortured animals. Billy boy is buying all the farm and cattle in America. Do you see how they treat these animals? Do you see what kind of drugs they shoot them up with? Anyway, this guy is a stud physically and a lot of his success is what he eats and drinks.
The new Waterboy
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Coca-Cola shares drop $5 billion after Cristiano Ronaldo's gesture to drink water
Coca-Cola shares dropped after soccer star Cristiano Ronaldo moved two Coke bottles and gestured for people to drink water at press conference.
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Multi Sport
DA
Crazy the amount of power celebrities have. Elon tweets and the crypto world reacts...now CR.Coca-Cola shares drop $5 billion after Cristiano Ronaldo's gesture to drink water
Coca-Cola shares dropped after soccer star Cristiano Ronaldo moved two Coke bottles and gestured for people to drink water at press conference.www.usatoday.com
Hey dad, I have walked into at least 7 businesses and no one said a word to me. One place had a sign that said please wear a mask if not vaxed. Guess what dude, everyone had a mask on in this grocery store, which was odd to my brain so I asked a few folks why the mask still and they said they have not gotten shot yet. I was amazed. I thought everyone would have a mask off. I asked 5 people this morning and none had the shot. Anyway, I went in without my mask on and It felt awesome
We all can look our best, just like CR. Seriously, every single human who wants to look healthy can. However, its not easy to break bad eating habits. H2o is the way to go. I dont drink soda pop no more either. I'm getting my abs back fellas, I kid you not. I want to show you all the before Ellejustus triple chin and the new Crush. This was no quick fix bs diet. I've been going at this for 18 months now. I'm landing at 170 pounds and size 30 waist. I like the 6 meal plan a day.
Follow the science might be the right call, but not in the manner that Dad4 follows the science. More along the lines of follow the money. How ironic is it going to be if its determined that science created, mishandled and covered up the virus? I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but there sure is a significant amount of circumstantial evidence that links the virus to the Wuhan lab. Combine that with the fact the other scientists rallied against the conspiracy without any investigation and you have a very troubling scenario with science. Like any other profession, just because someone is a scientist, infectious disease researcher, epidemiologist, etc doesn't give them instant credibility and shouldn't be unquestionably followed like a cult prophet. Academics are as influenced by bias, politics and money as much as anyone else. Potentially even more so since their conclusions are developed in a lab, or on paper, based on controlled variables. They aren't subject to the light of the real world where actual results are impacted by a multiple of uncontrollable variables. It's been a bad year for science.
Multi Sport
DA
... this virus started at least in August of 2019.
Happens about 12% of the time with Delta. That's the flip side of the 88%.
Vaccine really only promises to mostly avoid serious infections. It isn't a 100% guarantee of no symptoms.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Accountability was one of the first.
Multi Sport
DA
For what?
Multi Sport
DA
But where do you categorize them? Do you put them in mask again?
The unvaccinated at this point have made their choice. The rest of us don’t have to bend over backwards to spare them from the consequences
ps anyone else loving my new more aggressive alter ego? I always thought the hatter was k&s. The espola=dad4 thing was never credible. Would require too much acting on the part of 1 person.
What name does the "more aggressive alter ego" post under?
Desert Hound
DA
A substantial percentage of scientists get funding from the government.
You don't get much funding when you go against the government position or preferred politics on an issue.
By the time it matters, we hope we will have data on the transmissibility of Delta from Pfizer vaccinated patients.
So, if they can transmit, on go the masks. If they cannot, then maybe not. ( Unless we need universal masks to make it enforceable. )
That's a pretty simplistic view of things. Can you name a few proposals that were turned down for funding on that basis?
You are making the argument that, if you disobey vaccine advice, then the public health authorities should make no effort to reduce your risk of death.
That's pretty hard core. Are you sure you are keeping your alter egos straight?
It's not the public health authorities. They don't bear any burden other than a few sleepless nights and all those grueling Vogue photo ops they make Fauci do. They just shift the costs on other people, and it's not justified shifting those costs on others if you refuse to get vaccinated...the risk is now entirely on you.