ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

Blues weren't an original member. They were let in. The original members in SoCal where:

Slammers
Surf
West Coast FC
Strikers
Real So Cal
Arsenal
Being an original member has zero bearing on my comment. They were one of the “few” clubs that voted against letting Beach in.
 
Nope. Josh wanted in once he realized that it was the beginning of the end of relevance for the Coast Soccer League.
You sure? I think he had big big plans and he's not done. Water park and hotel are next. He wanted in just like all the clubs and deserved to be in. The ECNL clubs in socal thought he was arrogant. Maybe he was. I think he made a good decision and ECNL should have done a better job of working things out. I know he hated them because his players would get poached from Arsenal, Blues and so on. It happened every year :( You kinda have to say JH has done well from a business side. I don't know the books but it looks good from the outside compared to Blues who were #1 in SoCal for a long time and need to make a decision soon, DA or ECNL.
 
You sure? I think he had big big plans and he's not done. Water park and hotel are next. He wanted in just like all the clubs and deserved to be in. The ECNL clubs in socal thought he was arrogant. Maybe he was. I think he made a good decision and ECNL should have done a better job of working things out. I know he hated them because his players would get poached from Arsenal, Blues and so on. It happened every year :( You kinda have to say JH has done well from a business side. I don't know the books but it looks good from the outside compared to Blues who were #1 in SoCal for a long time and need to make a decision soon, DA or ECNL.


Look I go back to the days when Legends didn’t even exist so the reality is Arsenal was there first and Legends didn’t do anything until after the ECNL teams split off and he got the ability (through the formation of the SCDSL) to have as many teams in each age group as he wanted. So yes he has done well for himself as a businessman but in terms of talent development he is average at best.

And if the Legends parents are okay with someone getting rich off of their kids pure talent and drive then this is America and as long as it is not hurting anybody and it is happening between two consenting parties then have at it.

Good luck to you and your daughter.
 
The good news is things are much worse on the boys side. Or at least the good news for nobody with a son in the DA.
 
A very good player on the Blues DA team just won the CIF State championship in a distance event. I think she is running and playing soccer at Oregon.
That's great to hear and I'm certain that had nothing to do with DA and everything to do with her club letting her do what she wants to do. I've made this point also that the real development and guidance comes from your club. DA and ECNL have very little to do with that part.
 
A good read, https://www.businessinsider.com/nba...IcIjY_jevZVPrfaKudH3_n671m71noa2XWfKhm5S_VCTY

FIBA made a change to its schedule in recent years. Two-thirds of the qualifying tournaments for the World Cup take place during the NBA season. Unlike in soccer with FIFA, players on the national team don't get exemptions from their professional teams to play in international tournaments.

"FIBA is not concerned about us," Colangelo said ( via The Washington Post's Ben Golliver). "They're concerned about what's best for basketball internationally. FIBA got exactly what they wanted. They're getting a lot of games, a lot of attendance. There's more interest in a lot of countries. Personally, I didn't like the change. I knew it would have a negative effect on us."
 
"Slated to start play in September 2019,the DPL Schedule will allow players to continue playing high school soccer
while developing their technical and tactical skills through club soccer."
 
"Slated to start play in September 2019,the DPL Schedule will allow players to continue playing high school soccer
while developing their technical and tactical skills through club soccer."
Wow, wow, wow and wow!!!!! let me seriously talk to my dd to see if she would like to reconsider her decision to play ECNL this upcoming season. This could be a game changer. Let me see, have dd play DPL first half and then join the DA Team (if she can make it since she's been playing that horrible brand of soccer in HS) after HS Soccer. At DPL she can practice juggling and dribbling while all the other players play in the big leagues. Listen all you fools at DA, yes you. Allow HS Soccer!!!!!!! End of story. This is so stupid. I think I might make this my mission in life. #letthemplayHS.......#letthemplayboth.......I have some advice for everyone: DA can be DA, ECNL can be DPL. DPL can be a local league, CRL and that's that. No need for this BS anymore.
 
Wow, wow, wow and wow!!!!! let me seriously talk to my dd to see if she would like to reconsider her decision to play ECNL this upcoming season. This could be a game changer. Let me see, have dd play DPL first half and then join the DA Team (if she can make it since she's been playing that horrible brand of soccer in HS) after HS Soccer. At DPL she can practice juggling and dribbling while all the other players play in the big leagues. Listen all you fools at DA, yes you. Allow HS Soccer!!!!!!! End of story. This is so stupid. I think I might make this my mission in life. #letthemplayHS.......#letthemplayboth.......I have some advice for everyone: DA can be DA, ECNL can be DPL. DPL can be a local league, CRL and that's that. No need for this BS anymore.

And why would ECNL become DPL? Why can't ECNL just stay ECNL and everyone else leave it alone? From the age split, the introduction of DA and then continued change of teams and rosters the next two years because of the impact of the age change years prior I for one would have preferred it all be left alone. I think it is fine for the youngers (2004-2005, etc) but this whole process was bad for the older ages going through this. When it was first introduced I was a willing participant but as the years have gone on it has not proven to have provided a benefit overall. US Soccer has no interest in High school soccer nor college soccer for that matter so this is a dead issue.

Also, just to clarify - the press release about DPL is clear it is being sanction by USSSA - nothing to do with US Soccer and the DA.
 
And why would ECNL become DPL? Why can't ECNL just stay ECNL and everyone else leave it alone? From the age split, the introduction of DA and then continued change of teams and rosters the next two years because of the impact of the age change years prior I for one would have preferred it all be left alone. I think it is fine for the youngers (2004-2005, etc) but this whole process was bad for the older ages going through this. When it was first introduced I was a willing participant but as the years have gone on it has not proven to have provided a benefit overall. US Soccer has no interest in High school soccer nor college soccer for that matter so this is a dead issue.

Also, just to clarify - the press release about DPL is clear it is being sanction by USSSA - nothing to do with US Soccer and the DA.
I mean, ECNL stays ECNL. It was more about Top League 1, 2 and 3 and so on. It sucks for 2022 and order.
 
I mean, ECNL stays ECNL. It was more about Top League 1, 2 and 3 and so on. It sucks for 2022 and order.
I don't see ECNL as ranked 2nd behind DA. That is a myth that many want to perpetuate. Parents have chosen based on personal preference and opportunities and there are top players in both. Not everyone is a fan of TopDrawer Soccer but if you look at the IMG 150 there seems to be a pretty even grouping of DA and ECNL players
 
I don't see ECNL as ranked 2nd behind DA. That is a myth that many want to perpetuate. Parents have chosen based on personal preference and opportunities and there are top players in both. Not everyone is a fan of TopDrawer Soccer but if you look at the IMG 150 there seems to be a pretty even grouping of DA and ECNL players
In Socal it is. Both leagues have some good teams and players. Majority of the "Elite" players in SoCal our at DA. 1/3 of the country different story
 

Can someone explain this to me?
Was DPL not a sanctioned league before? What exactly does that mean?
And what exactly does it mean now that they are sanctioned?
And why not be sanctioned by US Soccer?
Does this give DPL more of less control over who they allow in?
As it stands today, DPL is made up of DA teams, right? Willl US Soccer get made that DPL is sanctioned under a different governing body?
Will DPL now allow non-DA teams in?
 
In Socal it is. Both leagues have some good teams and players. Majority of the "Elite" players in SoCal our at DA. 1/3 of the country different story

It amazes me how people let themselves be dictated to. If 6-8 years ago someone had told me that they were going to tell me where I was going to have my player play I would have gotten a good belly laugh and told them to kick rocks.

GDA is a shit show that has succeeded in lowering the overall level of play in SoCal from when my kid first started playing. Surf Cup has been cheapened to the point that now you have hundreds of teams that get in instead of an elite few. They are making more money but the level of soccer is much lower. Personally if my daughter was in U10 again in this environment I would have just had her stick to track and field.
 
In Socal it is. Both leagues have some good teams and players. Majority of the "Elite" players in SoCal our at DA. 1/3 of the country different story
what do you base this statement on? From what data or research are you using to say that the majority of the elite players are in DA? This is a complicated issue and results can vary based on age. I believe you said your player is on the younger side so it may be more true for your players age but certainly is not true of other ages.
 
what do you base this statement on? From what data or research are you using to say that the majority of the elite players are in DA? This is a complicated issue and results can vary based on age. I believe you said your player is on the younger side so it may be more true for your players age but certainly is not true of other ages.
Have you seen the U16 YNT list? Anyone from ECNL on it from SoCal? How about from other parts of the country?
 
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