There is ALOT more players to be recognized on that team.Novel approach to youth academy paying dividends for LAFC
http://www.latimes.com/sports/socce...html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
Keeping the focus on fewer teams and fewer players — LAFC has about 90 in the academy now — has paid off. Top Drawer Soccer ranked LAFC’s U-13 and U-14 teams as the best in the nation last May while six academy players — defenders Armando Avila, Beau Yantz and Tony Leone, midfielder Dylan Presto, forward Christian Torres and winger Kevin Jimenez — spent time in the U.S. youth national team camp this year. Another, goalkeeper Donovan Palomares, trained with Mexico’s youth national team.
But if they're "heading back to Mexico", doesn't that mean they are originally from Mexico? How is U.S. losing anything if they're Mexicans to begin with???
They're both Mexican _and_ American.But if they're "heading back to Mexico", doesn't that mean they are originally from Mexico? How is U.S. losing anything if they're Mexicans to begin with???
Interesting article and brings back the topic of how US soccer is missing out including this demographic and:
"FIFA's Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (RSTP) are enforceable in North America.
To recap, RSTP stipulates that when a soccer player signs his first professional contract, the pro club is obligated to pay training and development costs to every club that developed that player between the ages of 12 and 21. Training compensation is also due when the player moves to a club in a different country prior to his 23rd birthday.
Additionally, when a player transfers to a club in another country before the expiration of his contract, five percent of the transfer fee is to be allocated to the club (or clubs) that developed the player with what is called a "solidarity payment". This is spelled out in Articles 20 and 21 in RSTP, as well as Annexe 4 of that document"
So far U.S. Soccer Federation, MLS , & Soccer United Marketing (Sum) have manged to prevent the clubs from receiving compensation. Although MLS and been taking a cut and giving out some of the RSTP to MLS club members only on a case by case basis.
Is the US spending money to subside youth soccer only to see others take advantage and swoop up players free of charge?
Parents from mexico not necessarily the kids
Thats a comment out of ignorance. Its okay I use to hold the same thought until I researched and found out where soladarity payments actually go. MLS keeps the money. They convinced the MLS players that by keeping the 5% the players will make more money - truth is the players dont get much of anything but players fight for scraps that fall under the table floor. In the past MLS clubs were able to lock up player rights & force players to play in the league - not allow them to transfer to leagues around the world. Play domestically or dont play at all. Google Taylor Twellman and youll find others. The system worked until parents wised up & stuck with non-MLS club teams. Now you see clubs having to take chances, actually invest in developing players, since they now have to sign them at younger ages to pro contracts. They cant just rely on parents putting up the cost - since they cant attract elite talent with ignorant parents who drink the kool aid. Parents cant and never will ever be paid soladarity payments. Given this, the alternative is to leave the system as is and let MLS keep the money. This doesnt help development in this country and can be argued it inhibits it. Pay to Play costs could be reduced since clubs could use soladarity payments to offer scholarships and get people to invest. Could even pay coaches a living wage, would have more full time coaches and quality of coaching pool would increase. This can lead to other issues, but would be better than the existing systemThis is soooo rediculous. So let me get this straight.. us parents have been paying for little johny since the age of 5... all the arcane travel... hotel... flights... turney fees... club dues... their gear.... odp..
pdp... ussda... camps... indiv training.... AND THE CLUBS GET COMPENSATION????
No they have already been paid... pay us parents. We are the ones who navigated this 3 ring circus... and supported our kids emotionally, physically, and financially.
The clubs shouldnt get a dime
This is soooo rediculous. So let me get this straight.. us parents have been paying for little johny since the age of 5... all the arcane travel... hotel... flights... turney fees... club dues... their gear.... odp..
pdp... ussda... camps... indiv training.... AND THE CLUBS GET COMPENSATION????
No they have already been paid... pay us parents. We are the ones who navigated this 3 ring circus... and supported our kids emotionally, physically, and financially.
The clubs shouldnt get a dime
Yes thats the point. Current system is flawed. Its been manipulated to centralize the power and thus their (mls/us soccer/sum) ability to make money increased - nothing to do with development. By taking away some of the money and putting it into clubs, you will incentive clubs to improve. You will also see bad clubs fade away in part. The ones focused in developing players will grow. Community based clubs might even grow because they will have another possible source of income and municipalities might not have to subsidize them as much. Big Clubs dont dev because they arent about dev and just about number$ - this system is kept in place by MLS/SUM/US Soccer. If no one rocks the boat, all stays the damr, and everyone keeps the money flowing. Short-sided views but no one wants to risk a proven model that makes them moneyIf the parents did not pay the club... and the club actually developed the player then fine... they should get paid.
But what are we kidding... 99% clubs dont develop the player.
That becomes chicken or the egg argument. System cant be changed if not allowed to. Soladarity would stop some of the collusion going on and possibly take some of the centralized power away from us soccer who is 100% not worried about dev. So if governing body isnt making it priority, the clubs that help them maintain the structuere arent. There are many clubs who do care but dont have the finances to do things on their own term. Easier to "quit" or not comply if you are self-reliant or have power to say "no thanks". ODP works in So Cal but a lot of parents never heard of it or think DA is the end all - also costs next to nothing. But it doesnt make ppl $ so it isnt expandedListen i understand what you are saying. But there are very very few places where there is even a system in place to even begin to address developing players.
And us parents of elite (i hate that term) players have had to navigate this soup of money driven scams... and basically act as psuedo managers.
My kid has been fortunate... he plays and has played at very hi level within and outside the states. And the only reason why is that we believed in him and supported him.
He has met some great folks and mentors and coaches along the way.... but there is no system in place in states as you agree.
And frankly, the current generation of kids coming up... who by some outlier chance can go pro.. well the clubs should not see a dime.
First put an actual system in place that actually begins to develop players... then we can talk about solidarity payments