Daugter Cut Before State Cup

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  1. Alone

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    We were loyal and quiet and it didn't matter. Be careful, local smaller club, never would have expected it.
     
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    Maybe it was because I can't spell. Not the kids fault.
     
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    What reason was given?
     
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    Not good enough anymore. She played up, other kids played high school while she had no options, so yes, not good enough after 4 months off. My main issue, she was wanted on a team in her age group in November after league, we stayed loyal since our commitment was through state cup. Small kid, maybe should have stopped anyway, but not the choice of this guy or the DOC.

    Don't stay loyal.
     
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    What SD club?
     
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    Did they give you a refund since the season does not end until July.
     
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    Sue the bastards.
     
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    That's a difficult age group, especially for a smaller kid. Sounds like she was in 8th grade, and at the lower end of 2003** group, while many on her team were freshman. There is a huge gap for this age group. The olders are 11-12 months older than the youngest. Combine this with the peak puberty changes and you have young men and women as compared to just became teens.

    I've seen this same issue in lots of 2003 teams this year, as a result of the age group changes. Your daughter used to be playing with 04s, so was at the middle or top of the scale. Now, she's firmly at the bottom. It likely worked out until the puberty/high school gap emerged.

    There are a lot of young 03s that are now struggling to stay on their team, since the age group change. It seems that the lower teams are more often now comprised with the younger 03s, and the higher flights have the older kids. This was all discussed when the changes occurred. Lots of people will say that size and age aren't that important, but it is at this transitional olders stage, as it's literally kids vs adults in many cases, especially with the boys/men.

    ** I just saw that she was playing up. If so, then she is an 04 and the difference is even more dramatic. Find a good 04 team and keep playing. Her experience playing up will serve her well.
     
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    That’s a tough one. You’re criticized for leaving early, even when you’re the one leaving money on the table. So you stay loyal and they can you anyway. Suppose it could have been worse. You could have endured a weekend for they simply didn’t play your daughter at all. That would have been very embarrassing and as a parent it’s sometimes hard to control the emotions on the sidelines when the BS hits like that. I hope you have a better year near year.
     
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    Thanks for the replies, kids probably done so this is more of a warning.

    Basic details, 04 team collapsed due to whatever. Found another 04 team at a big club 30 min away. Coach of the o4 team she was on called, invited her on the 03 team. I was a little apprehensive but didn't want the long drive so did it. The coach was very encouraging until about October, called her slow and some other things. I told her he didnt mean it as did he. Season ended 1st week of November, come back last week of February, clear he had plans and my kid felt like an outsider as most all of the kidd just finished playing each other in high school.

    The club has a lot to do with the local high school, probably why all the new kids showed for the tryouts. Playing high school was her goal, won't be doing that now.

    My kids have played on the range of SD clubs. The "bad" ones really aren't different from the clubs you would expect to be more in line with their claimed purpose.
     
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    The purpose is always the same for any club. Make money. That will always be the top objective.
     
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    This is really a sad thread. I think you are approaching this completely wrong. She was playing up, and the team ran away from her. Sounds like she needs a better fit, at her age, nothing more. It seems like you feel she should be kept on a team forever. Being "loyal", whatever that means to you, does not guarantee a spot.Given your comments my guess is she was not a top player on her team.

    Why would she quit? I know she's hurt, but find a better place for her, there are lots of good clubs in SD. Or maybe, she's not that passionate about soccer and should take some time to reflect and grow as a teen.

    Lots of talented players play for HS and are exposed to new clubs through their teammates and try out for the first time. This adds a lot to the talent pool at this age level, widening the gap with the younger players (see my post above). You never said the players that replaced her weren't as good as her. I don't see anything that warrants blaming the club or coach.
     
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    Some private training might also help get her to that next level. My daughter got cut by a team when she was 14 and vowed to prove to the a-hole coach she was a good player and he made a mistake. For some reason she took getting cut as motivation to become a better player. My daughter was just an average player until she started doing privates on a regular basis when she was 14. I truly believe, and so does she, that the privates were the key to her excelling to the point that she got a very good college scholarship to play soccer. It also helped to fuel her love of soccer. She is still playing, she referees, she coaches club and does privates, all while taking a full college load as a junior.
     
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    I feel like once you are U14 or older, your team is your team. Especially at a smaller club. Especially if not a DA team. Maybe a few small moving parts here or there. (Kid moves away. Kid quits soccer. A players best friend wants to leave her team and move to your team). But unless a kid never shows up and/or has a horrible attitude - Roll with the team you have created at this point.
     
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    Very sorry to hear this, but it does happen often and more so in older teams. These coaches don't care about kids well being; but karma is a b and eventually it's going to come back around to them.
     
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    What was your daughter doing for those 4 months? The answer to that question should give you some insight into where you go from here.
     
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    I disagree with this 100%. Your loyalty is to your player. Things change. Why would a player that is too good or too bad for a team stay with it other than situation "A" and they are staying to help their friends get recruited? Even then it might hurt them if they look better than they are due to the unicorn's presence on the team?
     
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    I am talking from a coaches standpoint.
     
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    Okay that makes a 180 degree difference. I agree with that. You built the team, you train the team, you better go with the team.
     
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    Quick look at SD area club websites shows many "players needed" at G2004. Maybe a change of scenery will be a good thing? It's a beautiful game and there are coaches out there who might make it come alive again for your daughter.
     
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