Just another part of the college "scholarship" scam for athletes. In this iteration they're being traded back and forth like cattle.Why do only NCAA coaches get access to this info? Should be public. Anyone have access?
Right. College coaches get to see everyone who has put themselves into the portal. Idk even if players in the portal can see who else is in the portal - i don't think they can? Everyone should be on equal footing for this. What are the transfer portal dates for m/w soccer? I think it's 45 days from mid November and another 15 days in beginning of May for 60 days total.Just another part of the college "scholarship" scam for athletes. In this iteration they're being traded back and forth like cattle.
If colleges paid players the transfer portal would be open + agents would represent players + negotiate moves.
Is this correct? I don't follow it closely, but I thought I remembered hearing about at least one case where an athlete entered the portal but stayed at their original school.Once a player goes into the portal, they're not staying at their current school, so not sure why they would care about keeping it private.
well, they CAN stay, of course. But, the coach knows you entered the portal. ie - you want to leave her team and school. So, if you stay after entering the portal, you ain't playing and you ain't keeping that big (or little) scholarship. So I don't see why anyone would stay even though they could.Is this correct? I don't follow it closely, but I thought I remembered hearing about at least one case where an athlete entered the portal but stayed at their original school.
I see a player staying if a new coach comes in and wants the player to stay & play.well, they CAN stay, of course. But, the coach knows you entered the portal. ie - you want to leave her team and school. So, if you stay after entering the portal, you ain't playing and you ain't keeping that big (or little) scholarship. So I don't see why anyone would stay even though they could.
well, they CAN stay, of course. But, the coach knows you entered the portal. ie - you want to leave her team and school. So, if you stay after entering the portal, you ain't playing and you ain't keeping that big (or little) scholarship. So I don't see why anyone would stay even though they could.
I say more transparency so folks don’t have to speculate.Only about half of student athletes who enter the transfer portal end up leaving. Obviously some stay because of a coaching change, but a large percentage stay and keep playing for the same coach. Many student athletes who are not on scholarship but believe they can get one elsewhere enter for that reason, but it doesn't work out so they stay. Many have significant financial hardship that causes them to at least consider a transfer, but financial aid ends up working out. Many who aren't getting playing time and/or decide to focus on an academic field that is stronger at another school or just want to go somewhere they will play, but they end up not having a better opportunity. Some leave because they're just too good to keep playing where they are.
I know a number of student athletes who entered the portal, maintained a good relationship with the coach and ultimately stayed. They didn't lose a scholarship or get banned from the gym. Most coaches understand and support what is best for a student athlete regardless of how many people here think everyone involved in soccer must be adversarial to their child's interests. Just because things aren't going as well as a player hoped, or circumstances changed, it does not mean the situation needs to be hostile. Typically, it is only players who enter the portal because they're hostile with the coach and burned that bridge or are definitely heading out because they're clearly too good to stay who are shown the door when they enter the portal. But, because those few people are the only ones we hear about in the media, people tend to think that is how it is for everyone.
Someone on this board MUST have access to the portal. Wouldn't it be great to have info posted here (leave off the player names) re numbers in the mens and womens portal, and the schools they are at? Seems to me like could id coaches who have a lot of unhappy players and maybe that's why kept private. After all the recent headlines re abusive coaches, making the info public would be one way to give players more control and ability to be heard.Only about half of student athletes who enter the transfer portal end up leaving. Obviously some stay because of a coaching change, but a large percentage stay and keep playing for the same coach. Many student athletes who are not on scholarship but believe they can get one elsewhere enter for that reason, but it doesn't work out so they stay. Many have significant financial hardship that causes them to at least consider a transfer, but financial aid ends up working out. Many who aren't getting playing time and/or decide to focus on an academic field that is stronger at another school or just want to go somewhere they will play, but they end up not having a better opportunity. Some leave because they're just too good to keep playing where they are.
I know a number of student athletes who entered the portal, maintained a good relationship with the coach and ultimately stayed. They didn't lose a scholarship or get banned from the gym. Most coaches understand and support what is best for a student athlete regardless of how many people here think everyone involved in soccer must be adversarial to their child's interests. Just because things aren't going as well as a player hoped, or circumstances changed, it does not mean the situation needs to be hostile. Typically, it is only players who enter the portal because they're hostile with the coach and burned that bridge or are definitely heading out because they're clearly too good to stay who are shown the door when they enter the portal. But, because those few people are the only ones we hear about in the media, people tend to think that is how it is for everyone.
I think the information could be useful for students and families in evaluating what programs to attend. If my kid was considering a program with a high transfer rate, I would want to explore why so many are unhappy with the program before sending my kid there.Not all the information on this thread is accurate - or at least applicable beyond specific anecdote.
Not sure why the portal should be public b/c not sure why there is a public interest in who is in the portal. I do think there should be some way for players to make inquiries and that the two limited windows are great for the schools but not so great for the athletes. Making a move is not a simple endeavor - it's disruptive in every way to the student's life.
All that said, the players CAN make it public when they enter - that often happens in football and basketball though I don't recall seeing that in soccer or any other sport.
Good point, but Transfer Rate information can be found.I think the information could be useful for students and families in evaluating what programs to attend. If my kid was considering a program with a high transfer rate, I would want to explore why so many are unhappy with the program before sending my kid there.
If it’s true that many in the Portal are unsuccessful in completing their transfers, I think the Transfer Rate information is lacking because it doesn’t consider those that want to transfer but can’tGood point, but Transfer Rate information can be found.
However I don’t see any advantage to making the Portal information public to anyone other than curious/nosey people.