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Glen said:
Funny. That was a great penalty kick by Sinclair, didn't you think?
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You saw Sinclair step up to take it only to be called back by the Canada coach? C'mon now.

Rapinoe took the first PK because she is obviously better than Morgan at them and that's the gameplan going in. No problem with that and no negative reflection on Morgan for that. BUT, for the second one, either Rapinoe asks Morgan if she wants to take it and Morgan says, "yes" or Morgan tells Rapinoe she wants to take it--we'll never know the truth. Either way, it doesn't matter, because after she steps up to take it and places her ball on the spot, coaching staff yanks her off during the pause in play in favor of Rapinoe. Smart move. And not a big confidence booster for your striker. THAT, i have never seen before.
 
oh canada said:
You saw Sinclair step up to take it only to be called back by the Canada coach? C'mon now.

Rapinoe took the first PK because she is obviously better than Morgan at them and that's the gameplan going in. No problem with that and no negative reflection on Morgan for that. BUT, for the second one, either Rapinoe asks Morgan if she wants to take it and Morgan says, "yes" or Morgan tells Rapinoe she wants to take it--we'll never know the truth. Either way, it doesn't matter, because after she steps up to take it and places her ball on the spot, coaching staff yanks her off during the pause in play in favor of Rapinoe. Smart move. And not a big confidence booster for your striker. THAT, i have never seen before.
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So the coaches tell Sinclair before the game that Beckie is taking the penalties? That's a big confidence booster for your striker? Talk about a distinction without a difference.

And it happens all the time - it happened this weekend in my DD's game. One kid stepped up to take the penalty, but the coaches switched them out for another kid. And you have NEVER seen that before? Come on.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Do you watch the NWSL? It doesn't seem like you do. It seems that you have an axe to grind and want to find a controversy where there isn't one. You think that Hinkle shouldn't be on the team yet Sonnet should? You clearly don't watch games.
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EOL doesn't watch games, just reads scorelines and stats. If memory serves, he/she was attempting (futilely) to posit last summer that the USWNT is far superior to all other countries and that this WC would bear that out. Any honest and objective viewer who just watched that Spain game, and the Norway/Australia game, and the France/Brazil game, and the Netherlands, etc. can see that while the US is still the favorite, they are far, very far from dominant.

As for Hinkle - there will never be any "proof" that she was overlooked due to her religious convictions. People in power who are racist/prejudiced are usually smart enough to not be so candid. And while I personally disagree with her beliefs, just because someone disagrees with gay marriage doesn't make them a bigot. If so, then President Obama was a bigot until he "evolved" his opinion as the Democrat nominee, every priest/pastor who preaches against gay marriage is a bigot, etc. If Hinkle disrespects Rapinoe because she is gay or hints at disapproval in the locker room, then she's a bigot.

Canada has been a leader in gay marriage and we are proud of that. Our women, however, have never been asked to wear a rainbow jersey. That decision is odd. Can you imagine if a cross was on a jersey for a game...omg!
 
Glen said:
So the coaches tell Sinclair before the game that Beckie is taking the penalties? That's a big confidence booster for your striker? Talk about a distinction without a difference.

And it happens all the time - it happened this weekend in my DD's game. One kid stepped up to take the penalty, but the coaches switched them out for another kid. And you have NEVER seen that before? Come on.
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an analogy to youth soccer??....omg! if you don't realize how big of a slight that was to Morgan, then you simply just don't watch enough professional soccer. but i understand, it's fine, i don't hold it against you...Nike, Continental, Gatorade and all the corporate sponsors have spent millions of dollars fooling millions of people about the soccer talent of Alex Morgan, so you're not alone.
 
oh canada said:
an analogy to youth soccer??....omg! if you don't realize how big of a slight that was to Morgan, then you simply just don't watch enough professional soccer. but i understand, it's fine, i don't hold it against you...Nike, Continental, Gatorade and all the corporate sponsors have spent millions of dollars fooling millions of people about the soccer talent of Alex Morgan, so you're not alone.
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Ouch.
 
oh canada said:
Spain owned the US in second half.

All Morgan did this game was flop and complain. No surprise there. What does it say that your 9 gets called off of a PK attempt? Coaches made the switch.

Too many long balls over the top of the midfield. No patience with working through midfield. When they went through Mewis and Lavelle it was good.

Still waiting for a great combo goal by the US. PKs save them. Rapinoe sucked on the field but give her props for nailing the corner with both of those PKs. Lavelle barely touched, if at all, on that second PK call and going sideways in the box. US saved by the whistle.

Heath disappeared in second half because of all the over the top balls and Spain's dominance.

Dunn struggled, but had the toughest assignment on the pitch. She had some good recoveries and overlaps in the attack.

Sauerbraun a class act.

Good for US to play these teams -- if they win, they will have earned the crown. And, US fans get to see firsthand that other countries are now on the same level as USA.
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In soccer at least.
 
End of the Line said:
You see what you want to see. There is not a single fact that supports the proposition that Hinkle is not on this team because of her homophobic hatred of gays. The reality is that she is not good enough. She wasn't good enough to play for the WNT in any meaningful games before she revealed herself as a p.o.s. bigot, and she still isn't. Not that there's anything wrong with kicking bigots to the curb, especially when they're insubordinate.
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Where did she say she hates her teammates or treats them in a negative way? Just because she won’t wear a rainbow jersey she is a bigot?
 
Whether we like someone's religious views or not, whether they are disgusting and offensive or not our country has always been founded on religious freedom and freedom of speech. We run into trouble when we want to deny someone's voice because we don't like what they have to say. I am not in support of Hinkle's views but I still support her right to her views and her religious beliefs. I don't recall her saying hateful things about her teammates but maybe I missed that. I seem to recall that she expressed her views about not wanting to wear a rainbow jersey.
 
Soccer43 said:
Whether we like someone's religious views or not, whether they are disgusting and offensive or not our country has always been founded on religious freedom and freedom of speech. We run into trouble when we want to deny someone's voice because we don't like what they have to say. I am not in support of Hinkle's views but I still support her right to her views and her religious beliefs. I don't recall her saying hateful things about her teammates but maybe I missed that. I seem to recall that she expressed her views about not wanting to wear a rainbow jersey.
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You said what I meant in a much more eloquent way. Hopefully EOL will understand it. I am far from homophobic. I just want the USA to win the World Cup and fielding the best team is a great way to accomplish that.
 
I thought Dunn worked HARD. Yes she got turned a few times, but she had some great tackles and intercepts. When she did get turned she hustled to win the ball back and that pressure usually resulted in a turnover. She had some amazing first touches in tight spaces. While I think Hinkle is a great left back, I think Dunn has a better first touch when it matters. Morgan did not play great, but she was obviously targeted, which led to her selling some of the fouls (but many did not need to be sold). The Spanish players came in studs up too many times and it cost them. Mewis was awesome. I though Rapinoe was great for the first chunk of the game, but then she tired and Spain started to figure her out. She was still outrunning her defender at the end of the game. The US needed a tough game and opponent like this after the easy group they were in.
 
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