What's the deal with NPL West?

Is that played parallel to the regular leagues? (csl, scdsl, ecnl, mlsda) if so, do clubs have an exclusive NPL team or does a team playing somewhere else plays NPL?

For example, LA Surf will have teams in MLS, ECNL, ECRL, CSL. Will they have a separate NPL? or one of those will be "double dipping" so to speak?

Then we have FCGS with two teams in ECNL and two in ECRL..

If they have an exclusive NPL team, wouldn't the competition be super diluted already?
 

jpeter

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Is that played parallel to the regular leagues? (csl, scdsl, ecnl, mlsda) if so, do clubs have an exclusive NPL team or does a team playing somewhere else plays NPL?

For example, LA Surf will have teams in MLS, ECNL, ECRL, CSL. Will they have a separate NPL? or one of those will be "double dipping" so to speak?

Then we have FCGS with two teams in ECNL and two in ECRL..

If they have an exclusive NPL team, wouldn't the competition be super diluted already?
They had fall league & planned spring this last season.

last I heard there 2021 fall league is still going for u13-u18/19. Youngers don't know?

NPLwest was only like ~ 10 clubs from certain da clubs. Will they add more now?

Just like any other leagues they all are diluted, is this one any more than CSL, DSL, or others?
 

lafalafa

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Just out today:

2020-21 NPL West
U11-U19

Clubs committed so far to participate:
LA Galaxy
LAFC
Arsenal FC
Beach SC
City FC Carlsbad
Chula Vista FC
FC Golden State
LA Breakers
LA Surf
LAUFA
Legends SC
Murrietta Surf
Pateadores
Real So Cal
San Diego SC
Slammers FC / CDA
Strikers FC
Surf San Diego
West Coast SC

If you would like your club to join the NPL West WE HAVE OPENINGS in certain divisions/age groups. Please contact one of our NPL West directors:
Tim Summiel - pdl@socalpremier.org (732) 921-3281
Blake George - nplwest@socalpremier.org (310) 308-1720
Matt Morse - president@socalpremier.org (714) 296-5888
 

jpeter

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Just out today:

2020-21 NPL West
U11-U19

Clubs committed so far to participate:
LA Galaxy
LAFC
Arsenal FC
Beach SC
City FC Carlsbad
Chula Vista FC
FC Golden State
LA Breakers
LA Surf
LAUFA
Legends SC
Murrietta Surf
Pateadores
Real So Cal
San Diego SC
Slammers FC / CDA
Strikers FC
Surf San Diego
West Coast SC

If you would like your club to join the NPL West WE HAVE OPENINGS in certain divisions/age groups. Please contact one of our NPL West directors:
Tim Summiel - pdl@socalpremier.org (732) 921-3281
Blake George - nplwest@socalpremier.org (310) 308-1720
Matt Morse - president@socalpremier.org (714) 296-5888
Yes timely received that last night night also.

In some cases clubs first team will be in this one at the younger ages.

This Ecnl juniors things I dunno maybe that was just a rumor?

Not sure for the olders if there will be a strict hierarchy besides maybe a clubs first team in ECNL. The 2nd ECNL, RL, NPLwest all could be a mashup and depends on $$, geography, and travel in some cases.
 
@jpeter this is the first time hearing about the NPL west coming back. As my so participated last year in the NPL west, but for this year we are going to be in ECNL juniors which consist of the the team in the southwest region having u11 and u12. The competition looks solid int the NPL west.
 
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jpeter

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@jpeter this is the first time hearing about the NPL west coming back. As my so participated last year in the NPL west, but for this year we are going to be in ECNL juniors which consist of the the team in the southwest region having u11 and u12. The competition looks solid int the NPL west.
Ah I see I guess this and juniors will both be going for fall.

Neither Galaxy or LAFC are in any of the ECxxx leagues and the MLS-EYSL has gaps for non-MLS so this looks like it's trying to fill those.

What's now interesting is this might be the only league where you see clubs cross play each other in a league format. clubs in a variety of different other leagues don't normally cross play or get a chance to play some clubs.
 
Well, there are more teams this year in the NPL west. Last year the league consisted of 10 teams 5 from the north and 5 from the south. But never the less looks like the league is going to be great. Im curious if my sons club will be in the both or just stay in ECNL juniors. Keep me posted @jpeter. Is the MLS league not going to happen this year?
 
I don’t know for certain, but I assume many of these teams in the now larger NPL West are the club’s second-best squad. I don’t think it is actually a place where MLS/MLS Elite teams play against ECNL teams. For example, City FC and Chula Vista are playing MLS-E, while San Diego Surf is playing ECNL, so all these listed NPL West teams are probably CV number 2, City number 2, Surf number 2, etc. Does that seem right? But anyway, NPL West had two spots into the ECNL National Tourney last year, so it’s more like a separately-branded ECNL than anything else. But looks like a nice way to get diverse competition and post-season opportunities (and showcases) without driving 200 miles every week. And HS eligible. Other comments?
 

jpeter

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I don’t know for certain, but I assume many of these teams in the now larger NPL West are the club’s second-best squad. I don’t think it is actually a place where MLS/MLS Elite teams play against ECNL teams. For example, City FC and Chula Vista are playing MLS-E, while San Diego Surf is playing ECNL, so all these listed NPL West teams are probably CV number 2, City number 2, Surf number 2, etc. Does that seem right? But anyway, NPL West had two spots into the ECNL National Tourney last year, so it’s more like a separately-branded ECNL than anything else. But looks like a nice way to get diverse competition and post-season opportunities (and showcases) without driving 200 miles every week. And HS eligible. Other comments?
Yes HS is fine and they build that into the schedules. No league games between late Nov and later March in Socal normally just like ECxx broken up into fall & spring halfs. No showcase like ECxx however.

Like I mentioned NPLwest will likely be a mashup of different players at most clubs called it what ever level you want but it's not a strict hierarchy like everyone wants to think. Usclub league so clubs can and do share players among ECNL,RL, NPL's. With the bigger rosters some players that don't travel could play local NPL and next week local ECNL and avoid the travel $$ demands if the club offers that.
 
Yes HS is fine and they build that into the schedules. No league games between late Nov and later March in Socal normally just like ECxx broken up into fall & spring halfs. No showcase like ECxx however.

Like I mentioned NPLwest will likely be a mashup of different players at most clubs called it what ever level you want but it's not a strict hierarchy like everyone wants to think. Usclub league so clubs can and do share players among ECNL,RL, NPL's. With the bigger rosters some players that don't travel could play local NPL and next week local ECNL and avoid the travel $$ demands if the club offers that.
I got en email if our club would be interested in the NPL West for the 2020-2021 season and also told me they plan on running a September-May league with a break for CIF Soccer play which sounds good to me in my opinion. A September-May is how So Cal Premier League (NPL West & So Cal Premier have partnered) runs its season with a league cup that runs concurrently with league play so it’s two competitions. ECNL also does that kind of calendar which is better honestly because that’s how they do it in Europe.
 

lafalafa

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The recent U13-U18 ECRL annocements for the SW is mixing things up now with several former NPLx teams looking to move or already committed to ECRL instead.

New clubs likely in NPL but some of the older age groups may be smaller numbers of teams.
 

Toch

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NPL West has been revived?
Lol why not just play in SCNPL? Interesting to see these Egos at work.
 
NPL West has been revived?
Lol why not just play in SCNPL? Interesting to see these Egos at work.
It always existed but it was made by ex USSDA clubs because they wanted their “B” teams to play each other because they think they’re the cream of the crop. Kinda like that bs how on the girls side the Girls DPL teams also played against each other in their own CRL division.
 
NPL West has grown rapidly during the lockdown. Many clubs have jumped from SCDSL discovery and top CSL brackets to compete on a full season calendar. I think there are about 20 or so clubs involved from what a club director has told me. Alot of clubs have quality teams but are politically blocked out of ECNL and MLS Academy. Should be a good competitor for sure and will provide a national pathway that plays in the same regionals and nationals as ECNL teams as per US Club Soccer
 
Hi. I don't think there's anything wrong with those (former) USSDA "B" teams thinking they should play against each other instead of in already existing leagues, northeastlfc. Seems like a good way for them to scout or develop future potential DA first teamers. And it's clear that NPL West is reasonably competitive, as they have multiple slots into the ECNL National Tournament. For soccer1234, I don't know how many clubs are "frozen out" politically from MLS or ECNL, but it looks like NPL West is mostly comprised of MLS/ECNL club's "second teams", but I don't mind playing against good clubs who didn't play ball with the dominant leagues, if that's what happened. For my dollar, I really like that the "second tier" MLS West has some exposure at showcases and a path to the MLS/ECNL first teams, while not requiring the rigorous travel schedules or high school sacrifices. Seems like a good option for my kid, anyway, and I'm glad (relieved!) he didn't opt to ride the bench at the faraway MLS-E club. ECNL wasn't an option at the other places he considered, only ECRL was. It looked like ECRL was similar to NPL West, at least in So Cal. I figure that if he is destined to greatness, the NPL West coaches will figure that out. No need to torture the rest of the family with weekly 3h drives or 8-1 losses to LAFC Academy.
 
Hi. I don't think there's anything wrong with those (former) USSDA "B" teams thinking they should play against each other instead of in already existing leagues, northeastlfc. Seems like a good way for them to scout or develop future potential DA first teamers. And it's clear that NPL West is reasonably competitive, as they have multiple slots into the ECNL National Tournament. For soccer1234, I don't know how many clubs are "frozen out" politically from MLS or ECNL, but it looks like NPL West is mostly comprised of MLS/ECNL club's "second teams", but I don't mind playing against good clubs who didn't play ball with the dominant leagues, if that's what happened. For my dollar, I really like that the "second tier" MLS West has some exposure at showcases and a path to the MLS/ECNL first teams, while not requiring the rigorous travel schedules or high school sacrifices. Seems like a good option for my kid, anyway, and I'm glad (relieved!) he didn't opt to ride the bench at the faraway MLS-E club. ECNL wasn't an option at the other places he considered, only ECRL was. It looked like ECRL was similar to NPL West, at least in So Cal. I figure that if he is destined to greatness, the NPL West coaches will figure that out. No need to torture the rest of the family with weekly 3h drives or 8-1 losses to LAFC Academy.
It just doesn’t make sense that the “B” teams play each other again they already have their own league why do they need to play each other 1-2 more times in CRL? The CRL in essence is supposed to be like the Champions League where the best teams from CSL, SCDSL, and clubs who qualify from other Cal South leagues may come to see who’s actually the best club. It defeats the purpose when clubs from another league demand their own group when in reality the clubs who earned a berth to the CRL Can most likely put up a challenge against these DA “B” teams and maybe even defeat them!
 
I guess I'm curious on the clubs that have teams in all the leagues.

For example:

GSFC has 2 ecnl, 2 ecrl. Will they play NPL West with their 5th team?

LA Surf has 1 MLSDA, 1 ecnl, 1 ecrl. Will they play NPL west with their 4th team?

Or will they mix and match players from all the teams, including their gold/silver team?

Or will they have their 5th/4th teams playing NPL West and their 6th/7th teams be their gold/silver CSL team?
 

Dargle

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I guess I'm curious on the clubs that have teams in all the leagues.

For example:

GSFC has 2 ecnl, 2 ecrl. Will they play NPL West with their 5th team?

LA Surf has 1 MLSDA, 1 ecnl, 1 ecrl. Will they play NPL west with their 4th team?

Or will they mix and match players from all the teams, including their gold/silver team?

Or will they have their 5th/4th teams playing NPL West and their 6th/7th teams be their gold/silver CSL team?
My guess is that the teams in NPL West will be in the pre-ECNL and pre-MLS league age groups.
 

ChrisD

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I guess I'm curious on the clubs that have teams in all the leagues.

For example:

GSFC has 2 ecnl, 2 ecrl. Will they play NPL West with their 5th team?

LA Surf has 1 MLSDA, 1 ecnl, 1 ecrl. Will they play NPL west with their 4th team?

Or will they mix and match players from all the teams, including their gold/silver team?

Or will they have their 5th/4th teams playing NPL West and their 6th/7th teams be their gold/silver CSL team?
when ENCL has their break in q4, almost guarantee clubs will mix and match players, last year in NPL plenty of team had DA player that were playing up in again , play their age in NPl.

In order for NPL to be great they need to have 1 ref's and 2 linesman not just one ref in the center. NPL almost felt like fun scrimmages , 1 Ref couldn't handle the pace of the game themselves when it came to the top tier teams . Hope the kids get to play soon
 
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