Ventura Coach Accused of Inappropriate Acts

So a coach up in Ventura County (DOC for the Eagles at least at one point) has been arrested for allegedly inappropriate contact with a female minor. Story attached. Reiterate my point in the drug thread...stuff like this is a greater threat and despite all the controls they have in place, it still happens.

http://www.toacorn.com/news/2017-07-06/Front_Page/Youth_soccer_coach_accused_of_having_sexual_relati.html

http://www.vcstar.com/story/news/local/communities/conejo-valley/2017/07/12/youth-soccer-coach-accused-lewd-acts-child/470570001/
 
Many comments to make about this but to start with how about the rationalization by the club president that it was an "isolated event that happened many years ago".... Does that make it not so bad? I think it would have been better if she left that part off her email out to the club.
 

ATRTDT

SILVER
Interesting snip from the club

We feel it is very important for you to hear from the Board of Directors of the Eagles Soccer Club given the events of the past 24 hours. The Eagles SC holds as its number one priority the safety and well-being of its players, your children. We are shocked and horrified as we are sure all of you are. The Eagles SC has prided itself in taking serious and consistent measures to investigate any prior misdemeanors and/or felonies prior to hiring any coach. We are vigilant in following the Cal South and US Soccer requirements for Risk Management and the Live Scanning of our coaches. We have never, until now, known of any issues with any of our coaches with law enforcement. We have been vigilant about the quality of our supervision of our players when home and away. But when the events of the past 24 hours become a reality for the club we are very aware that we must double-down on our efforts to make sure we are doing everything in our power to protect your children. The Board will be meeting to review all of our procedures and rules regarding the supervision of the players and coaches at training, games and on the road. And, although we believe we have been very responsible and strong in our message to our coaches and managers regarding the importance of proper supervision and proper behavior we owe it to you the members to revisit all of our policies. Anything and everything that can be done to safeguard your children is and will be done. We know all of you understand that we can't supervise our coaches 24/7 and that a certain level of trust will exist as coaches work within our club over time. But, our oversight, message and accountability must be second to none.

We believe Vince Thomas has a right to defend himself, to seek counsel and to have his day in court. We believe one is innocent until proven guilty. However, the seriousness of the allegations MUST be taken seriously and your club's administration WILL do its job even as painful as it is for it to have come from someone of leadership, trust and longevity of over twenty years.

For those of you whom have shown us your support we greatly appreciate it. For those of you whom are confused, concerned and even angry we understand those emotions and will do everything possible to address those concerns over the next days, weeks and months.

Sincerely,

The Eagles SC Board of Directors
 

smellycleats

SILVER ELITE
Many comments to make about this but to start with how about the rationalization by the club president that it was an "isolated event that happened many years ago".... Does that make it not so bad? I think it would have been better if she left that part off her email out to the club.
Perhaps the Eagles president could have focused on how the safety and well-being of their players is their first priority and how they are saddened that a player, at the hands of one of their own coaches, may have been irreparably harmed. Seems like her personal friendship with VT and minimizing the alledged crime is her number one priority. I wish I were suprised. We left Eagles because of lack of principled leadership from the top down.
 
We left Eagles because of lack of principled leadership from the top down.
You aren't the only one I've heard this from. We were warned off this club for that reason by numerous people including one of DS training partners even though they have a reputation for winning. At first I thought it might just be sour grapes including from families that couldn't make the a teams or the MSA folks after the field disputes but enough people chime in and you begin to wonder.
 

Overlap

SILVER ELITE
So a coach up in Ventura County (DOC for the Eagles at least at one point) has been arrested for allegedly inappropriate contact with a female minor. Story attached. Reiterate my point in the drug thread...stuff like this is a greater threat and despite all the controls they have in place, it still happens.

http://www.toacorn.com/news/2017-07-06/Front_Page/Youth_soccer_coach_accused_of_having_sexual_relati.html

http://www.vcstar.com/story/news/local/communities/conejo-valley/2017/07/12/youth-soccer-coach-accused-lewd-acts-child/470570001/
Wow! very sad if true, I know several young ladies that have played for him and had good things to say....at a loss for words
 
It is crazy....what is really nuts is how unbelievably common it is....it is horrifying....google soccer coach lewd acts and you get results from rec, club, high school, etc. of coaches/teachers taking advantage of their position of power and taking advantage of kids. It is horrible that a person of would do this to a child and abuse that power to inflict that kind of damage on a kid.

Maybe background checks and finger prints are not enough....I don't know what the right answer is, but how do you catch/identify somebody that has not been caught or previously...what controls do you put in place?

You just feel horrible for the young lady and her family....very brave of her to step forward.
And you can't catch someone before his first transgression, no matter how effective your method.
 
And most do not want to believe it is true and think the victim is lying, and most victims are afraid to come forward or are convinced that they are an active, willing and adult participant in the situation. Until years later when they are an adult and have to get therapy to realize what happened to them and are then brave enough to come forward to finally tell someone
 
It is crazy....what is really nuts is how unbelievably common it is....it is horrifying....google soccer coach lewd acts and you get results from rec, club, high school, etc. of coaches/teachers taking advantage of their position of power and taking advantage of kids. It is horrible that a person of would do this to a child and abuse that power to inflict that kind of damage on a kid.

Maybe background checks and finger prints are not enough....I don't know what the right answer is, but how do you catch/identify somebody that has not been caught or previously...what controls do you put in place?

You just feel horrible for the young lady and her family....very brave of her to step forward.
How common is it? Any statistics? How many cases in relation to adult/child sports interactions?
I think it is incredibly rare, not common at all.
 

outside!

PREMIER
Maybe background checks and finger prints are not enough....I don't know what the right answer is, but how do you catch/identify somebody that has not been caught or previously...what controls do you put in place?
The control is parents making sure there are not any opportunities for this to happen by watching practices and chaperoning trips.
 

Porkchop

BRONZE
It is crazy....what is really nuts is how unbelievably common it is....it is horrifying....google soccer coach lewd acts and you get results from rec, club, high school, etc. of coaches/teachers taking advantage of their position of power and taking advantage of kids. It is horrible that a person of would do this to a child and abuse that power to inflict that kind of damage on a kid.

Maybe background checks and finger prints are not enough....I don't know what the right answer is, but how do you catch/identify somebody that has not been caught or previously...what controls do you put in place?

You just feel horrible for the young lady and her family....very brave of her to step forward.
I did the same yesterday-
 
The control is parents making sure there are not any opportunities for this to happen by watching practices and chaperoning trips.
Exactly. I don't miss practices or games. My wife and I are very involved with both our daughters and their lives. This could be any person, any age, any profession.

This is also the reason when I coached I was never alone with any girl at any time. For the protection of all involved.
 
Exactly. I don't miss practices or games. My wife and I are very involved with both our daughters and their lives. This could be any person, any age, any profession.

This is also the reason when I coached I was never alone with any girl at any time. For the protection of all involved.
Yes, I agree with the second sentence. But, I can't imagine any lewd acts happening at practice or games, although that's where the "relationship" is fostered. No blame to the victims, but I wish they would give more details in these incidents as to how it progressed as a learning tool for parents. Best guess is that there had to be multiple opportunities alone with the girl (or contact via social media, email, text.)
 

smellycleats

SILVER ELITE
The control is parents making sure there are not any opportunities for this to happen by watching practices and chaperoning trips.
Exactly. But all kids are not lucky enough to have parents like you and me. I wasn't. Predators look for kids who do not have involved, connected parents. They single them out, pay extra attention to them. They tell them that their parents don't understand them but that they do. These kids are craving attention. The best defense against this is maintaining a close relationship with your child. And God forbid a coach or teacher puts them in an uncomfortable position, or does something inappropriate, they will come to you right away and tell you before it becomes an ongoing situation and their own guilt and shame prevents them from telling anyone until 1en years later.
 
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