State Cup Venues

State & national cup are huge $$$ makers for CS.

Cheap fields out in the sticks is one way they maximize those profits, they could care less that families are driving 100+ miles, spending 2hrs each way just to get to the game, and paying $10 to park in the dirt. When you multiple all the time & costs by all the families involved it's actually thousands of dollars per game which is really crazy for young kids sports.

Regional play should be local, if a team is good enough to make it out of regionals, they could travel to play in a area tournament in the same County. If they win area yeah go play state cup, that would be across counties. But CS does this backwards and leaves families traveling across counties right away, why you ask...$$$.
PBS for those going to Palm Springs. Keep an eye on your kiddos out by the casinos. Crazy ass people hang out over there and the 10 frwy is super close for easy escape.
 
PBS for those going to Palm Springs. Keep an eye on your kiddos out by the casinos. Crazy ass people hang out over there and the 10 frwy is super close for easy escape.

When the casino vagrants come begging for handouts or looking into cars just ask them how they afforded those expensive shoes & clothing. I don't mind helping out the turely needed but when your wearing expensive shoes, clothing, and jewery I draw the line. When their story is too complicated or the same normally can tell what's up.
 
When the casino vagrants come begging for handouts or looking into cars just ask them how they afforded those expensive shoes & clothing. I don't mind helping out the turely needed but when your wearing expensive shoes, clothing, and jewery I draw the line. When their story is too complicated or the same normally can tell what's up.
My mom lived in Indio back when Texas hold em was big time. I thought I could win too since I won a few home games. I played a few times out there and what you say is very true. One guy at my table asked to borrow $100 til the next day or if he won that night, he would pay me double that night. I said no. I came back a few months later and the same guy is outside with no shoes on asking for money so he could eat a hot fresh meal at the all you can eat buffet.
 
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Is Lancaster no longer being used?
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Anybody know about these changes? Not sad to see Lancaster go, but I don't think San Bernardino is much better. When will Great Park be involved? And isn't Surf Cup Sports Park/Del Mar usually part of the mix?

@timbuck,

I understand Cal South's preference is to keep the complexes used as centralized as possible, provided field quality is acceptable.

Lancaster is being avoided "if possible" because of very, very, very poor field conditions, travel is difficult and results in significant complaints and the management of Lancaster (which includes the City) don't understand what it takes to maintain fields. Its overused and under-maintained. The City of Lancaster will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars of economic impacts because they have their heads up their "you know whats." CalSouth tried to help, but Lancaster will only get worse until changes are made.

Coachella fulfills a need, large multi-purpose fields that are not great, but OK enough. This facility is simply an over-flow facility because its not up to standard compared to the other facilities.

San Bernardino Soccer Complex. You obviously have not been to San Bernardino Soccer Complex recently. In the words of:

Was at San Bernardino this weekend and fields look and played amazing they do spend a lot of money in upkeep for those fields

Quite frankly, of all the complexes in SoCal, San Bernardino probably looks and plays the best at this time of the year, because the fields are over-seeded and professionally maintained by World Sports, a company with experience in World Cup, MLS and NFL fields. SBSC has also began addressing some historical problems, a facility with inadequate parking. They are now parking on the grass for the youngers to accommodate all the cars. Where SBSC begins to go down hill is when the over-seeded ryegrass dies back (with heat) and multiple varieties of summer grass try to grow (June-October).

Concerning the other fields:

Oceanside and Del Mar - Below the "border" checkpoint, creates massive headaches for teams with parents that may not have their papers, which is why you see many Hispanic teams take buses of players and coaches (parents avoid going this far south). Oceanside also has a maintenance problem, significant thatch problem (last spring) due to lack of maintenance, dangerous and spongy fields. Del Mar is significantly better.

Galway Downs - Maintenance is suffering and fields are rock hard (compressed). Slowly dying due to mismanagement. Was there over the summer and shocked how bad it was. Parking on dirt and porta-potty solution sucks.

Silverlakes - not overseeded, but fields painted/dyed. Nothing wrong with putting Endurant (or competitor) down. Still best complex out there.
 
Perhaps it's already been discussed on another thread but I heard this weekend that it is confirmed that State Cup will be moved to late November/December next year.
It's about time!!! Wrapping up the season in November to then wait 2.5 months later to play makes no sense. Wrap it all up by December and then let kids take a 2 month break or so and begin all over again in March.

It could make sense for Youngers to stretch out the age group, but I would doubt this change has "been made." Consider some of the problems this would present:

1) The HS season runs from November to February, making all older's unavailable to club/competitive soccer. Many of these complexes have commitments to HS tournaments a few weekends in November and December.
2) The venues used for "league" need a break to fix the damage from the league season.
3) The families don't want club soccer to interfere with their holiday vacations.
 
@timbuck,

I understand Cal South's preference is to keep the complexes used as centralized as possible, provided field quality is acceptable.

Lancaster is being avoided "if possible" because of very, very, very poor field conditions, travel is difficult and results in significant complaints and the management of Lancaster (which includes the City) don't understand what it takes to maintain fields. Its overused and under-maintained. The City of Lancaster will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars of economic impacts because they have their heads up their "you know whats." CalSouth tried to help, but Lancaster will only get worse until changes are made.

Coachella fulfills a need, large multi-purpose fields that are not great, but OK enough. This facility is simply an over-flow facility because its not up to standard compared to the other facilities.

San Bernardino Soccer Complex. You obviously have not been to San Bernardino Soccer Complex recently. In the words of:



Quite frankly, of all the complexes in SoCal, San Bernardino probably looks and plays the best at this time of the year, because the fields are over-seeded and professionally maintained by World Sports, a company with experience in World Cup, MLS and NFL fields. SBSC has also began addressing some historical problems, a facility with inadequate parking. They are now parking on the grass for the youngers to accommodate all the cars. Where SBSC begins to go down hill is when the over-seeded ryegrass dies back (with heat) and multiple varieties of summer grass try to grow (June-October).

Concerning the other fields:

Oceanside and Del Mar - Below the "border" checkpoint, creates massive headaches for teams with parents that may not have their papers, which is why you see many Hispanic teams take buses of players and coaches (parents avoid going this far south). Oceanside also has a maintenance problem, significant thatch problem (last spring) due to lack of maintenance, dangerous and spongy fields. Del Mar is significantly better.

Galway Downs - Maintenance is suffering and fields are rock hard (compressed). Slowly dying due to mismanagement. Was there over the summer and shocked how bad it was. Parking on dirt and porta-potty solution sucks.

Silverlakes - not overseeded, but fields painted/dyed. Nothing wrong with putting Endurant (or competitor) down. Still best complex out there.

" you see many Hispanic teams take buses of players and coaches (parents avoid going this far south)"

Really? I don't ever recall seeing a bus in any State Cup parking lot.

State Cup games have been held below the checkpoint in various San Diego locations since my kids started going in January 2000.
 
From the SA board

". ..wanted to send a quick thank you for the State Cup game in Coachella (Indio) this Sunday. I'm glad that you decided that almost everyone in our age group should have to travel to the desert for one game on a Sunday afternoon. So all of the other soccer fields within 125 miles were already booked? There's nothing better than a 5 hour car ride for a 70 minute game.."
 
From the SA board

". ..wanted to send a quick thank you for the State Cup game in Coachella (Indio) this Sunday. I'm glad that you decided that almost everyone in our age group should have to travel to the desert for one game on a Sunday afternoon. So all of the other soccer fields within 125 miles were already booked? There's nothing better than a 5 hour car ride for a 70 minute game.."

Does the SA board have a link?
 
From the SA board

". ..wanted to send a quick thank you for the State Cup game in Coachella (Indio) this Sunday. I'm glad that you decided that almost everyone in our age group should have to travel to the desert for one game on a Sunday afternoon. So all of the other soccer fields within 125 miles were already booked? There's nothing better than a 5 hour car ride for a 70 minute game.."
We play at 8 am in Coachella Sunday for one game 06b
But my daughter had league games in Santa Barbara and Bakersfield along with sumo valley this year and we live in apple valley . Just suck it up and deal with it it’s just one game
 
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