Well this didn’t age well. 174 dead in AZ in a single day, a new record! CA also just broke its previous high for deaths in a single day. 174 is more than 38 right? How many people in AZ need to go see Herman Cain every day before you admit you’re an idiot?
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Well this didn’t age well. 174 dead in AZ in a single day, a new record! CA also just broke its previous high for deaths in a single day. 174 is more than 38 right? How many people in AZ need to go see Herman Cain every day before you admit you’re an idiot?
So glad Covid-19 petered out, especially in Florida. 30 deaths a day is about the same as 252 right? And good thing AZ opening up has only resulted in 30 or so deaths a day - if you don’t count the other 140.
How high do these numbers need to get before you agree that AZ’s plan was stupid?
Desert Hound
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You are not too bright. That is not a single day high.
Deaths get reported at different times. So that 174 number is spread out over a number of days.
AZ still shows as its highest day 80 people.
We are on the down side of the positive curves now. Cal who has stricter measures in place saw a spike in cases.
The countries you love to point too as examples of getting it right...France, Spain, Germany are all experiencing spikes again. Hong Kong is having issues again.
It is going to happen. You cannot stay locked down for some indeterminate amount of time...which seems to be your preferred plan.
I know you like to hide in the basement and hug your dolls, but at some point you have to get off your ass and start living life again.
Sure. But let’s assume for the sake of argument that reopening is only killing 80 people a day. 80 is the new 30?
How many people need to die every day before it’s too many for you? 100, 1000, everyone?
Yeah, Germany is really up a creek now. They were up to five deaths yesterday. So was Spain. France was up to fifteen. Hong Kong had one, too. That’s 26 deaths out of a combined population of over 200 million. Not sure they can come back after that kind of horrific spike.
Why couldn’t they be sensible and do things like Arizona?
I’m not that smart, but didn’t Hillary kill like 80 people a day in Benghazi?
Technically It would need to be over 1,000 a day now for MAGATs to keep deflecting.
Deaths lag 3-4 weeks after infections.
Ok. We can look at infections.
Those four countries combined for fewer than half as many infections as California, despite having more than five times the population.
Pick any metric you like. Germany, Spain, France, and Hong Kong are doing far better than we are. It's completely misleading to say that their "spike" proves they are doing it wrong. Their spike is better than our best day.
Desert Hound
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All the countries are going to see a rise in positives and a rise in deaths.
The virus hasn't magically disappeared.
Time to start living with the risk and managing those at risk (80+ individuals make up 50% of all deaths).
I know you want to hang out until some vaccine comes around. But we don't know how long that will be, how effective it will be, etc.
In the meantime kids suffer, business gets hammered, tax revenues plummet (which brings about other issues), etc.
It’s funny how MAGATs initially claimed that looking at cases was misleading and inappropriate because they were overstated and also due to allegedly low mortality rates, but now they need to point to cases to distract from the bodies piling up.
So tired of everyone blaming others. Trust me Trumps Rally's and BLM protests spread the virus. As is everyone else.
4.6 million haven't come down with the virus, 20-30 million people have. The CDC stated the actual count was 5-10x the listed amount. Testing results in about 8% showing the virus. The NHL and NFL tests of players coming into their first practice show a 7% count of presumed healthy people having the virus. Time to start believing that 1 out of 12 people you see have it.
Really believe it is young males and females, ages 16-30, all races, of both parties, that is spreading this the most.
Last night at the park. 30 guys playing and watching basketball on two courts, no masks. Ages 16-30, different races. This is the main demographic that I see in an ordinary day not wearing masks at a store. They aren't going to change. They are democrats and republicans. They are young, invulnerable, enjoying life. Maybe we will get lucky that enough will get it and get over it and this will slow down the spread.
Both kids starting remotely. All grandparents still stuck at home. 20% layoff at my company and now working 32 hours. We are all screwed right now.
4.6 million haven't come down with the virus, 20-30 million people have. The CDC stated the actual count was 5-10x the listed amount. Testing results in about 8% showing the virus. The NHL and NFL tests of players coming into their first practice show a 7% count of presumed healthy people having the virus. Time to start believing that 1 out of 12 people you see have it.
Really believe it is young males and females, ages 16-30, all races, of both parties, that is spreading this the most.
Last night at the park. 30 guys playing and watching basketball on two courts, no masks. Ages 16-30, different races. This is the main demographic that I see in an ordinary day not wearing masks at a store. They aren't going to change. They are democrats and republicans. They are young, invulnerable, enjoying life. Maybe we will get lucky that enough will get it and get over it and this will slow down the spread.
Both kids starting remotely. All grandparents still stuck at home. 20% layoff at my company and now working 32 hours. We are all screwed right now.
Let's make it a bet. On the day the US first approves a covid vaccine, we look at covid deaths per capita for Arizona and Germany.
If Germany has more covid deaths per million population, I owe you a case of IPA.
If Arizona has more covid deaths per million population, you owe me a case of IPA.
Deal?
kickingandscreaming
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Looking at the CA dashboard. Almost all of the populous counties down south show signs of cases per day plateauing except Ventura county and San Bernardino. Unfortunately, pretty much all the rest of CA including the populous counties in northern CA are trending up. The ones trending up are definitely lower volume, but cases are still moving in the wrong direction.
Sheriff Joe
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Desert Hound
DA
Why make a bet when I am already behind?
Here is the question I never get from you. How long do you hide out? A year? 2?
We don't know if a vaccine comes about. Hopefully soon. But we dont know.
So how long do we let gov pick which biz can be open? How long do we keep our kids out of school?
At what point do YOU say OK we need to deal with the risk and move on?
I am curious on that. You and the others have never said. How long?
Nov 3rd
How long depends on what rules we have and to what extent we follow the rules.
For Germany, it took about 2-3 months. Their rules were enforced and followed.
If you want to be able to protest, wear no mask, and hold small parties, expect it to last until a vaccine is administered.
So sad. Not sure who pulled the trigger on them, but this is happening at 600% more than before Corona. Well, that's what those fake Docs said the other day. Bummer the kids had to die.
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