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Avanti

BRONZE
Me too.....a good friend's DD on the victorious team told me all about it.....dangerous play by teams is bad enough in a close game but when they are getting smashed 4-0 and still doing it it is even worse......and it's how that team "plays" on the regular......zero passing and smart soccer just kicking the ball AND the opponent to try and win at all costs and be damned development :(
It has to be the coach telling them to play this way, you don't have 4 or 5 players playing like this at the same time, throughout the game. If this had been a game between men or teenage boys, somebody, anybody in the offending team would have paid for it. And the worst part was a parent of that team by my side, a mother actually, dismissing everything and mocking the players on the ground.
 

ToonArmy

SILVER ELITE
Sounds exactly like an 05 ecnl team my daughter played a couple years ago the worst display of kickball bullyball I ever seen one of our girls got put in a chokehold from behind thrown to the ground good Judo toss with the ball at her feet foul called but not even a yellow. Xhaka would of been proud.
 

JumboJack

SILVER ELITE
On a somewhat related note: I was out to shoot (photos) of three SCSL games today. The first one started with two refs running a dual but one of them left at halftime because he fell ill so the second half was solo. The second and third games were canceled because no refs showed up.
 

lafalafa

PREMIER
On a somewhat related note: I was out to shoot (photos) of three SCSL games today. The first one started with two refs running a dual but one of them left at halftime because he fell ill so the second half was solo. The second and third games were canceled because no refs showed up.
That's a bummer for everyone.

What venue and what flight teams was this for?

Do you think there should or could be something done such as compensation(parking refund, ref fees, etc) or at least a free reschedule when these kind of situation come up?
 

JumboJack

SILVER ELITE
That's a bummer for everyone.

What venue and what flight teams was this for?

Do you think there should or could be something done such as compensation(parking refund, ref fees, etc) or at least a free reschedule when these kind of situation come up?
First game was flight 2 in Los Alamitos. Others were flight 1 in West Covina. Im not sure who is to blame here but I assume that the buck stops and starts which the league when it comes to providing refs.
 

watfly

PREMIER
First game was flight 2 in Los Alamitos. Others were flight 1 in West Covina. Im not sure who is to blame here but I assume that the buck stops and starts which the league when it comes to providing refs.ub
Maybe there is some culpability on the part of the league, but this is a much greater problem than just refs. It's nearly impossible to find employees currently. We schedule a handful of Zoom interviews and were lucky if one person shows up. College students can't get fed because the universities can't fill food service positions, restaurants are limiting hours or staying closed because they can't get help. It's hitting those businesses that were non-essential or closed during the pandemic the worst. Refs are part of this group. I also think all the new leagues that were created just before or during the pandemic hasn't helped either. Although, the number of teams participating may be the same or lower, I think the competition between leagues for refs isn't helping. We're fortunate in MLS Next in that through 5 games we've had full crews with the exception of our 1st game where we had to use a club linesman (poor guy). The ref crews have been solid.

As far as who is to blame, that's a better thread for the Off-Topic forum.
 
I see what you did there.

Today the two games I was at had a ref, an AR and a club linesman for both games.
My ref did four 9v9 games as a center with no AR's. All of the games at the complex only had one ref. He explained to two different groups of parents that they are partly to blame for the shortage of refs. He is thankful for the money but may start to refuse games at Robb Field due to the poor field conditions. He has twisted an ankle every time he refs there.
 

watfly

PREMIER
My ref did four 9v9 games as a center with no AR's. All of the games at the complex only had one ref. He explained to two different groups of parents that they are partly to blame for the shortage of refs. He is thankful for the money but may start to refuse games at Robb Field due to the poor field conditions. He has twisted an ankle every time he refs there.
So you're saying that Robb Field hasn't changed any? Haven't been there in a few years, but it used to be the farther you get away from the channel and closer to the road, the worse the fields.
 
So you're saying that Robb Field hasn't changed any? Haven't been there in a few years, but it used to be the farther you get away from the channel and closer to the road, the worse the fields.
Yep. Albion says it's the city's fault. The city doesn't really care. Too bad Albion is such a small club they can't afford to do anything about their crappy home fields.
 
Dang no fun in any of that.

Do you think the coach could or should have taken some action....speak to ref,. switch up, or anything that might have help defuse?

Can be very difficult to hold your tongue in certain circumstances but what outlet to parents really have? Speak to the coach at half?
I told a HSS ref to blow his whistle before halftime and he just smiled at me. He finally made his first call right before the end of the half. Insane because my kid and two others got whacked so hard their season was done.
 
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