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Placer United has been busy....

>>First they make the news for holding indoor trainings.... which had state-wide repercussions:
sacramento.cbslocal.com

Placer Youth Soccer Club Violates Health Orders, Holds Indoor Trainings

One day after Placer County announced a 33% spike in COVID-19 cases, including nine children, CBS13 has learned a local youth soccer club held indoor trainings in violation of health orders.
sacramento.cbslocal.com sacramento.cbslocal.com

This triggered the local reporters to inquire the state about the guidance they were providing to youth sports (back in June they weren't providing any and clubs were using day camp rules). Ultimately, Orange County used this report to close youth sports
www.ocregister.com

County of Orange defends messaging about youth sports postponement

Orange County Executive Officer Frank Kim discussed modifications made by the state and that the county re-opened youth sports after other counties in the state were given the clearance.
www.ocregister.com www.ocregister.com
"Frank Kim, Executive Officer for Orange County, said during a press conference about the coronavirus pandemic that youth sports were suspended after the California Department of Public Health modified guidelines.
He also said that the county re-opened athletics June 15 after other counties were given the clearance from the state.
Kim referenced a news report from Sacramento earlier this month that mentioned other counties."

(One about July 3, the state clarified that youth sports did not fall under the day camp rules...and subsequently (July 30) released rules on youth sports that mirrored the day camp guidance)

>>Now, Placer is "lawyered up" over "recruiting violations" related to some camps they had outside the norcal tryout window.

NorCal Referees - Incidents Edit

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Not sure why they are putting themselves in a position to have to deal with the crap during this time. Maybe they can punch a legal hole in the tryout window stuff, though. Norcal, the club issuing the complaint, and Placer have all engaged lawyers to figure it out.
 
tjsoccer said:
Placer United has been busy....

>>First they make the news for holding indoor trainings.... which had state-wide repercussions:
sacramento.cbslocal.com

Placer Youth Soccer Club Violates Health Orders, Holds Indoor Trainings

One day after Placer County announced a 33% spike in COVID-19 cases, including nine children, CBS13 has learned a local youth soccer club held indoor trainings in violation of health orders.
sacramento.cbslocal.com sacramento.cbslocal.com

This triggered the local reporters to inquire the state about the guidance they were providing to youth sports (back in June they weren't providing any and clubs were using day camp rules). Ultimately, Orange County used this report to close youth sports
www.ocregister.com

County of Orange defends messaging about youth sports postponement

Orange County Executive Officer Frank Kim discussed modifications made by the state and that the county re-opened youth sports after other counties in the state were given the clearance.
www.ocregister.com www.ocregister.com
"Frank Kim, Executive Officer for Orange County, said during a press conference about the coronavirus pandemic that youth sports were suspended after the California Department of Public Health modified guidelines.
He also said that the county re-opened athletics June 15 after other counties were given the clearance from the state.
Kim referenced a news report from Sacramento earlier this month that mentioned other counties."

(One about July 3, the state clarified that youth sports did not fall under the day camp rules...and subsequently (July 30) released rules on youth sports that mirrored the day camp guidance)

>>Now, Placer is "lawyered up" over "recruiting violations" related to some camps they had outside the norcal tryout window.

NorCal Referees - Incidents Edit

www.norcalreferees.com www.norcalreferees.com

Not sure why they are putting themselves in a position to have to deal with the crap during this time. Maybe they can punch a legal hole in the tryout window stuff, though. Norcal, the club issuing the complaint, and Placer have all engaged lawyers to figure it out.
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Not the type of stuff that looks good when you're begging for ECNL status.
 
tjsoccer said:
Placer United has been busy....

>>First they make the news for holding indoor trainings.... which had state-wide repercussions:
sacramento.cbslocal.com

Placer Youth Soccer Club Violates Health Orders, Holds Indoor Trainings

One day after Placer County announced a 33% spike in COVID-19 cases, including nine children, CBS13 has learned a local youth soccer club held indoor trainings in violation of health orders.
sacramento.cbslocal.com sacramento.cbslocal.com

This triggered the local reporters to inquire the state about the guidance they were providing to youth sports (back in June they weren't providing any and clubs were using day camp rules). Ultimately, Orange County used this report to close youth sports
www.ocregister.com

County of Orange defends messaging about youth sports postponement

Orange County Executive Officer Frank Kim discussed modifications made by the state and that the county re-opened youth sports after other counties in the state were given the clearance.
www.ocregister.com www.ocregister.com
"Frank Kim, Executive Officer for Orange County, said during a press conference about the coronavirus pandemic that youth sports were suspended after the California Department of Public Health modified guidelines.
He also said that the county re-opened athletics June 15 after other counties were given the clearance from the state.
Kim referenced a news report from Sacramento earlier this month that mentioned other counties."

(One about July 3, the state clarified that youth sports did not fall under the day camp rules...and subsequently (July 30) released rules on youth sports that mirrored the day camp guidance)

>>Now, Placer is "lawyered up" over "recruiting violations" related to some camps they had outside the norcal tryout window.

NorCal Referees - Incidents Edit

www.norcalreferees.com www.norcalreferees.com

Not sure why they are putting themselves in a position to have to deal with the crap during this time. Maybe they can punch a legal hole in the tryout window stuff, though. Norcal, the club issuing the complaint, and Placer have all engaged lawyers to figure it out.
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Wow, this is crazy stuff. Recruiting wars!!!
 
Actually, looking at the time frame, maybe these were the same incident. They probably got snitched on by another local club....norcal, the county, and the news all got the call. Playing nice hasn't come easy to Placer, so its not a huge surprise.

In region 6, everyone is snitching on everyone. Its ridiculous. We need to remember the intent of the norcal recruiting rules - to make it difficult for families to leave a shit coach during the season and put the club leadership in a bad spot. Now that there are no leagues happening, and clubs are just splitting up PPP money anyways, what is the point of those rules?
 
tjsoccer said:
Actually, looking at the time frame, maybe these were the same incident. They probably got snitched on by another local club....norcal, the county, and the news all got the call. Playing nice hasn't come easy to Placer, so its not a huge surprise.

In region 6, everyone is snitching on everyone. Its ridiculous. We need to remember the intent of the norcal recruiting rules - to make it difficult for families to leave a shit coach during the season and put the club leadership in a bad spot. Now that there are no leagues happening, and clubs are just splitting up PPP money anyways, what is the point of those rules?
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my old friend, @tjsoccer?
 
They are too strict with those rules. While recruiting is discouraged in Nor Cal, it is not in other areas. In Texas, recruiting is almost necessary And all the bigger clubs have to do it.
 
Traore said:
They are too strict with those rules. While recruiting is discouraged in Nor Cal, it is not in other areas. In Texas, recruiting is almost necessary And all the bigger clubs have to do it.
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And the small clubs - and players that commit to teams with those clubs - get totally screwed when it happens in cycle (as was routine with one club in the Bay). I do think they should expand the communication period and even relax guest training but I think open transfer in cycle only benefits the big clubs that can be aggressive. Extenuating circumstance (nightmare coach, bullying kids) can be addressed and releases should be permitted
 
A few years back they used to have an actual "down" period between seasons. Teams would host a free drop in and you could date different clubs without being ostracized for it... until parents gossiped. Somewhere along the way (maybe the age change?) the seasons simply overlapped and kids lost that opportunity. It's a shame... we all know competition makes everyone stronger. If you want to keep a kid, thus mom and dad's money, you earn their business.
 
The Outlaw said:
A few years back they used to have an actual "down" period between seasons. Teams would host a free drop in and you could date different clubs without being ostracized for it... until parents gossiped. Somewhere along the way (maybe the age change?) the seasons simply overlapped and kids lost that opportunity. It's a shame... we all know competition makes everyone stronger. If you want to keep a kid, thus mom and dad's money, you earn their business.
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The "down" period just doesn't exist anymore at the top level. A couple of years ago in DA, we had a deposit, and one of the six monthly payments for the upcoming year due BEFORE the playoffs were complete. It was over 1/3 of the yearly fees due before the prior season was over. Do you think playing time would have taken a hit in the playoffs if you didn't put down your deposit and let them know you were leaving? There's no way that should be allowed. Same thing with tryouts in May - before playoffs even start. Tryouts need to occur in a dead period after all league events are complete.
 
tjsoccer said:
Yes dk! Love your picture of the Snowman. Sorry your daughter's frosh year isn't going as planned. Hopefully she is doing OK with it.

You saw that Lamorinda withdrew from norcal, right? Is it over the recruiting complaints? GAL league and tourneys for them. It will be interesting to see how that model works.
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yes. The Snowman photo is a companion from another norcal guy on this board, @SpeedK1llz.

saw that about Lamo - I believe it was over the complaints (according to NorCal’s release, Lamo was suspended from NorCal play so whether they w/drew or were kicked out, tomato tomahto).

we will see how her year plays out. She’s been on campus since July 5, doing bubble-based training and the plan is for team workouts to start on the 15th. Still waiting to see if the Pac12 releases schedules, all the time knowing that it could go “puft!” in a moment’s notice. If she were at home, she’d be going crazy so I am glad she’s where she is, engaged in a new challenge and under some structure that does not come from her parents. @Simisoccerfan has written about this scenario really well.

If the powers that be could deploy on a widespread basis the rapid tests that exist already, it would be a game changer for college campuses and other congregant communities. Michigan State is doing some really excellent work on testing that could be rolled out country-wide, too.

Hope things are well with you, @tjsoccer
 
tjsoccer said:
In 2012 they instituted a "Zero tolerance for Club Politics" policy. Just think if they didn't have that!

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Maybe the politics is why Gregg left to start his own club? Earlier this year Placer sent and email to their club taking shots at Gregg's new club. Just a more petty garbage from these so-called club"leaders". When times get tough, you start to see people's true colors. Placer has some good teams so hopefully they'll get some better leadership for the club.
 
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