Impact on coaches

Eagle33

GOLD
We don't know this yet and hope we will not find out, but the longer we are without soccer and schools closed, how big of an impact this will make on coaches?
Majority soccer coaches in SoCal do this a for a living and have no other source of income.
 
Many families have either paid their fees for the year already or in the process of making payments to clubs. So I would imagine unless they stop payments on those that coaches are still getting paid. I think clubs should start making arrangements for virtual soccer practices for these families that are paying their club fees....this might be awhile before we are back on the field
 

jpeter

PREMIER
We don't know this yet and hope we will not find out, but the longer we are without soccer and schools closed, how big of an impact this will make on coaches?
Majority soccer coaches in SoCal do this a for a living and have no other source of income.
Yeah was wondering the same thing, the MLS academies are still going & paying but aren't the other ones just like independent contractors without company benefits?

Don't they get paided monthly or something I thought? They can file for unemployment right but still have to be concerned for them, will the clubs still give them a paycheck if there not weekly training the teams?
 

Eagle33

GOLD
Yeah was wondering the same thing, the MLS academies are still going & paying but aren't the other ones just like independent contractors without company benefits?

Don't they get paided monthly or something I thought? They can file for unemployment right but still have to be concerned for them, will the clubs still give them a paycheck if there not weekly training the teams?
Many coaches I know don't just get a weekly check from the club - they depend heavily on privates.
 
We don't know this yet and hope we will not find out, but the longer we are without soccer and schools closed, how big of an impact this will make on coaches?
Majority soccer coaches in SoCal do this a for a living and have no other source of income.
When I was on the BOD of the local club, coach contracts were for 9 or 10 months depending on age, generally starting in April or May. Some coaches made a little more in extended month-by-month contracts and per-game fees if they did well in State Cup.
 
For coaches of younger teams, most players have signed contracts and have made some sort of payment by now.
For older teams (2006 and older), they were just starting to have "tryouts" and not many contracts for next year have gone out yet. Typically, players payments last through the end of state cup.

So coaches of younger teams should still be getting paid as "business as usual."
Coaches of older teams might be in a bit of a pickle until things pick back up. State Cup was due to start in a few weeks.

I've seen some clubs using instagram to hold training sessions. Are coaches being paid extra for this or is they doing this as part of their "normal" training pay.

I wonder how club expenses have adjusted over the past few weeks. Are field rental costs beings reduced? Are clubs spending money on virtual training stuff (online meetings, recorded videos, training companies, etc).

The people that do private training are going to be hurting. The ability to charge $30-$80 per hour is going to be reduced. I've seen some advertising that they will still offer training, but no more than 2 people in a session. Not sure how many parents/players will be sending their kids out. And this rain certainly isn't helping.

This shutdown will separate the players from the wannabees (talking about players here, not coaches). Players that see this as an extended break and don't touch a ball for a month vs players that put in work on their own will be obvious when this thing ends (It will end, right?)
 

jpeter

PREMIER
With schools predicted to be closed until the end of school year, it will impact all clubs and coaches.
practice space without schools is going to be a very challenging problem....

will there only be the pros, privately owned & some very well financed "clubs" still playing& training up to the normal 4 day a week ? May timeframe?
 

Eagle33

GOLD
For coaches of younger teams, most players have signed contracts and have made some sort of payment by now.
For older teams (2006 and older), they were just starting to have "tryouts" and not many contracts for next year have gone out yet. Typically, players payments last through the end of state cup.

So coaches of younger teams should still be getting paid as "business as usual."
Coaches of older teams might be in a bit of a pickle until things pick back up. State Cup was due to start in a few weeks.

I've seen some clubs using instagram to hold training sessions. Are coaches being paid extra for this or is they doing this as part of their "normal" training pay.

I wonder how club expenses have adjusted over the past few weeks. Are field rental costs beings reduced? Are clubs spending money on virtual training stuff (online meetings, recorded videos, training companies, etc).

The people that do private training are going to be hurting. The ability to charge $30-$80 per hour is going to be reduced. I've seen some advertising that they will still offer training, but no more than 2 people in a session. Not sure how many parents/players will be sending their kids out. And this rain certainly isn't helping.

This shutdown will separate the players from the wannabees (talking about players here, not coaches). Players that see this as an extended break and don't touch a ball for a month vs players that put in work on their own will be obvious when this thing ends (It will end, right?)
How long parents will pay for virtual training kids can do on their own anyway? I'm talking about motivated kids that actually will do it.
 
Many clubs make families pre-pay for the entire year--or at least front load so that they are already fully paid for season 19-'20. Youngers typically have a fairly light month of March anyway, so no big deal missing this time in terms of $$$ paid for club services--they are on 20-'21 money. Likewise, if a couple weeks missed for DA/ECNL or other older leagues, no big deal either.

BUT, DA, ECNL and other leagues for the olders start anew in July. I hope clubs are considering refunding $$ to prepaid families for 1 month or 2 months, depending how long this continues. $3500/10 months = $350/month. Also, coaching services for weekly games and tournaments that are cancelled would be included in that annual amount too.

Posting links to online training videos, while creative and temporarily fun, are not the premium services that families prepaid for. If schools are done through June (in person anyway), soccer clubs cannot justify having team training without risking the health of our kids. Italy is two weeks ahead of USA and they are still on complete lockdown. Spain 1-week ahead and still on complete lockdown. China is 8-10 weeks ahead of us and they are still getting new cases, only some Chinese cities are just now returning to school. 8-10 weeks forward from here (best case scenario) means no Memorial weekend tournaments either...that would be 3 months of $$ refunded.
 

Eagle33

GOLD
Many clubs make families pre-pay for the entire year--or at least front load so that they are already fully paid for season 19-'20. Youngers typically have a fairly light month of March anyway, so no big deal missing this time in terms of $$$ paid for club services--they are on 20-'21 money. Likewise, if a couple weeks missed for DA/ECNL or other older leagues, no big deal either.

BUT, DA, ECNL and other leagues for the olders start anew in July. I hope clubs are considering refunding $$ to prepaid families for 1 month or 2 months, depending how long this continues. $3500/10 months = $350/month. Also, coaching services for weekly games and tournaments that are cancelled would be included in that annual amount too.

Posting links to online training videos, while creative and temporarily fun, are not the premium services that families prepaid for. If schools are done through June (in person anyway), soccer clubs cannot justify having team training without risking the health of our kids. Italy is two weeks ahead of USA and they are still on complete lockdown. Spain 1-week ahead and still on complete lockdown. China is 8-10 weeks ahead of us and they are still getting new cases, only some Chinese cities are just now returning to school. 8-10 weeks forward from here (best case scenario) means no Memorial weekend tournaments either...that would be 3 months of $$ refunded.
that's my thoughts on this exactly and if it comes to it, it will hurt many coaches financially.
 
Many coaches I know don't just get a weekly check from the club - they depend heavily on privates.
My daughter has private coaching twice a week that’s been cancelled. We decided to “pay it forward” and continue to pay the weekly rate until she’s able to resume. It’s not much, but I can imagine that other clients this coach has aren’t going to be paying, and that lack of cash will have an impact on him and his family.
 

Dof3

SILVER
Imagine private schools, universities (tuition and room and board!). Club soccer is small potatoes. Virtual learning is not remotely the same thing as on campus learning. But at some point all of us are going to have to decide whether we share a little pain for things like this. If we (meaning society at large) don't - voluntarily, that is since we will regardless, but if we object about everything, then it will just mean longer lines in bankruptcy court. Seriously doubt clubs are going to return money. I have three kids playing club soccer and, under these circumstances, that's OK with me. I would like to have my money back, too. But I want clubs to still be around when this is over.
 

pewpew

SILVER ELITE
My daughter has private coaching twice a week that’s been cancelled. We decided to “pay it forward” and continue to pay the weekly rate until she’s able to resume. It’s not much, but I can imagine that other clients this coach has aren’t going to be paying, and that lack of cash will have an impact on him and his family.
Very thoughtful and generous of you!!
We've done the same as far as music lessons for our two younger kids. Martial arts will be the same thing. Privates for my GK are thru auto-pay. Lol
But for all of these people..this is their livelihood..it's what pays the bills and puts food on their plates. We are fortunate to not have to be going thru the same thing. My .02
 
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