How good is Eileen Gu´s Chinese?

blam said:
The video referred to genocidal concentration camps which have now all been debunked by experts and the UN.

Confinement....ah yes...I fondly remembered when I was in the English training camp were joked we were living like in a prison. Guards guarding our compound with barbed wires all around. And military drill instructors to keep us disciplined. Having lived in one, I still looking back think of it as a training camp than a concentration camp. The purpose of the camp was clear, improve our English. But I admit, many of the things we went through would be shocking to the Western world. This is where standards differ.

In my high school, our warden used to stand at the exit of our dorms with a scissors. Boys with long hair were cut right there by the warden as they exit for their classes. This is normal. But whenever I tell this story in the West, this is shocking. Why cant you have the principal or the disciplinary teacher cut the hair of boys who have too long hair as they enter the high school? This is not shocking to me. Having metal detectors, that´s shocking. Its like the adults no longer have any control over the teenagers.
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Take a look at old photos. At one time, long hair in China was normal. Respect for the emperor, good citizen, and all that.

Then Mao created roving bands of violent youth, beating up their elders and cutting their hair.

You have a history of cutting hair in schools, but it wasn’t teachers cutting the hair of students. It was mobs of students cutting the hair of their teachers, and breaking their ribs while they are at it.

Interesting things happened in the gaps in your history books. But you won’t find out about them at a school with barbed wire.
 
dad4 said:
Take a look at old photos. At one time, long hair in China was normal. Respect for the emperor, good citizen, and all that.

Then Mao created roving bands of violent youth, beating up their elders and cutting their hair.

You have a history of cutting hair in schools, but it wasn’t teachers cutting the hair of students. It was mobs of students cutting the hair of their teachers, and breaking their ribs while they are at it.

Interesting things happened in the gaps in your history books. But you won’t find out about them at a school with barbed wire.
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Ah! Interesting...looks like you jumped into conclusion again. I am not from China. But even if I were, you should give them more credit. In the world we live in today, information is free flowing, nothing can be hidden. The challenge is if people care enough to find out.

A good example is you. Genocidal concentration camp in China has alread been debunked by the OIC and by the UN. But its a result that you do not care to find out and do not want to find out. So you continue to live in this delusional fantasy that they exist, Mr. Falun gong bot.


*As an atheist, I actually give many kudos for attempts at eradication of religion during the cultural revolution in China.
 
blam said:
Thanks to you posting the Bill Maher video, which I watched, the great youtube algorithm recommended this video to me today, a point to point debunk of Bill Maher's video. Don´t just watch it, study it.

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Why would I waste my time studying CCP propaganda?

I’m well aware of what “debunked by UN” means. It means China was able to win a vote on the Human Rights Commision. HRC is already home to Russia, China, Cuba, Sudan, Eritrea, Qatar, UAE, Somalia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Venezuela. Two of those defenders of liberty still engage in slavery. A third used Chinese made fighter jets to murder civilians and steal their land.

Why would I be impressed that this group was willing to ignore Chinese rights violations? They are too busy committing their own, often using Chinese munitions.
 
blam said:
Ah! Interesting...looks like you jumped into conclusion again. I am not from China. But even if I were, you should give them more credit. In the world we live in today, information is free flowing, nothing can be hidden. The challenge is if people care enough to find out.

A good example is you. Genocidal concentration camp in China has alread been debunked by the OIC and by the UN. But its a result that you do not care to find out and do not want to find out. So you continue to live in this delusional fantasy that they exist, Mr. Falun gong bot.


*As an atheist, I actually give many kudos for attempts at eradication of religion during the cultural revolution in China.
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Thank god they're aren't killing Muslims in China and their only interning them against their will, raping and abusing them. I feel much better now about buying Chinese products.
 
blam said:
Thanks to you posting the Bill Maher video, which I watched, the great youtube algorithm recommended this video to me today, a point to point debunk of Bill Maher's video. Don´t just watch it, study it.

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Who the hell is Daniel Dumbrill? :p This guy is literally a nobody, regurgitating the talking points of the PRC.
 
warrior49 said:
Who the hell is Daniel Dumbrill? :p This guy is literally a nobody, regurgitating the talking points of the PRC.
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Who is he? a complete idiot. Anyone who compares imprisoning criminals to imprisoning someone because of their ethinicity/religion should be ignored for being incapable of forming a cognitive thought.
 
warrior49 said:
This guy is literally a nobody, regurgitating the talking points of the PRC.
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You have to give him more credit. That photo Bill Maher put up was incorrectly used and he exposed it at 6:21. He is doing a better job than the PRC.

There also a reference at 6:20 about Nayer 2.0 which I do not know much about, before my time.

Also, lots of independent bloggers have been to the Xinjiang region and you can catch their videos on youtube.

What about the propaganda from the other side? The Falun Gong side have been churning out anti China propaganda for at least 20 years. Handing out free newspapers, creating free movies, and organization dance shows etc. etc.. I used to read their newspaper(free) to improve my Chinese so I know. The organization look very suspicious to me. How can it be so well funded? Nothing objective can come out from their source. If it were not for them, I may have been more receptive of anti China news. In the last 20 years, its been very hard to tell if a news is real or just anti China propaganda from the Falun Gong.
 
blam said:
You have to give him more credit. That photo Bill Maher put up was incorrectly used and he exposed it at 6:21. He is doing a better job than the PRC.

There also a reference at 6:20 about Nayer 2.0 which I do not know much about, before my time.

Also, lots of independent bloggers have been to the Xinjiang region and you can catch their videos on youtube.

What about the propaganda from the other side? The Falun Gong side have been churning out anti China propaganda for at least 20 years. Handing out free newspapers, creating free movies, and organization dance shows etc. etc.. I used to read their newspaper(free) to improve my Chinese so I know. The organization look very suspicious to me. How can it be so well funded? Nothing objective can come out from their source. If it were not for them, I may have been more receptive of anti China news. In the last 20 years, its been very hard to tell if a news is real or just anti China propaganda from the Falun Gong.
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Where might I find the Falun Gong newspaper? My local newstand doesn't seem to carry it. Why do I get the suspicion you're punking us?
 
watfly said:
Where might I find the Falun Gong newspaper? My local newstand doesn't seem to carry it. Why do I get the suspicion you're punking us?
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Epoch Times.

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Pretty good coverage of mainland China.
 
dad4 said:
Epoch Times.

www.theepochtimes.com

The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos

Get the latest breaking news, in-depth reporting, and insightful analysis on a wide range of topics, including politics, culture, and world events | The Epoch Times is a trusted source for real news and information that is free from influence and bias.
www.theepochtimes.com www.theepochtimes.com

Pretty good coverage of mainland China.
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I'd clear your search history ASAP, you could lose your SCC citzenship.
 
blam said:
Just want to add my personal opinion. I only knew of Eileen Gu like 2 weeks ago after Fox tucker imploded.

At first, I had thought stereotipically that Eileen was a transplant. Everything about her was likely American but will compete in name only for China.

But after watching several of her videos, it appears at least to me if there is a better athlete out there to do this, its her. She appears to be very much still connected to China, having made friends with many Chinese skiers since a young age, and having the fluency to communicate in Chinese and having the same food taste as Chinese.

Everything about her seem very Chinese and she appears American only in facial and her English speaking abilities. Quite a 180 degree shift from my initial impression of her.
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You watched Tucker Carlson?
 
watfly said:
Thank god they're aren't killing Muslims in China and their only interning them against their will, raping and abusing them. I feel much better now about buying Chinese products.
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What kind of hypocrisy drives people like you to direct so much ire at an 18 year old girl for taking money from China while simultaneously engaging in such slavish devotion to Trump?

Trump is an actual sycophant beholden to one of the most repressive regimes in the world. He hosted the Miss Universe pageant in Russia for the money and in the hope it would help him get to build a hotel in Moscow and make even more money (although we all know he only loses money on them). He "borrowed" hundreds of millions from Russia when he defaulted so badly and so often on banks in democracies that he couldn't get more money to grift on from anyone else. I take it it that is just "good business", while an 18 year old girl taking $40 million plus is treasonous? And why exactly is it so bad for an 18 year old girl to not want to talk about politics compared to the former president of the U.S. keeping strangely silent as his buddy invades a country. It is no wonder, of course, given that Trump called the EU a "foe" while he was on his way to both Russia and China. And how about the fact that Trump routinely violated the NLRA and would buy the steel for his failing casinos from, you guessed it, China? Buying steel from China is great business and very patriotic, right?

Eileen Gu provides a great distraction for right-wingers like you and your friends to feel better about your hypocritical support of someone who has benefited more from, and probably taken more money from, repressive regimes that perhaps any other living American.
 
GoldenGate said:
What kind of hypocrisy drives people like you to direct so much ire at an 18 year old girl for taking money from China while simultaneously engaging in such slavish devotion to Trump?

Trump is an actual sycophant beholden to one of the most repressive regimes in the world. He hosted the Miss Universe pageant in Russia for the money and in the hope it would help him get to build a hotel in Moscow and make even more money (although we all know he only loses money on them). He "borrowed" hundreds of millions from Russia when he defaulted so badly and so often on banks in democracies that he couldn't get more money to grift on from anyone else. I take it it that is just "good business", while an 18 year old girl taking $40 million plus is treasonous? And why exactly is it so bad for an 18 year old girl to not want to talk about politics compared to the former president of the U.S. keeping strangely silent as his buddy invades a country. It is no wonder, of course, given that Trump called the EU a "foe" while he was on his way to both Russia and China. And how about the fact that Trump routinely violated the NLRA and would buy the steel for his failing casinos from, you guessed it, China? Buying steel from China is great business and very patriotic, right?

Eileen Gu provides a great distraction for right-wingers like you and your friends to feel better about your hypocritical support of someone who has benefited more from, and probably taken more money from, repressive regimes that perhaps any other living American.
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I couldn't careless who Gu competes for, its her choice, But of course, you never miss an opportunity to twist an unrelated story to Trump bashing. I don't care for him either, but you've got a serious addiction. You should see a professional about it.
 
watfly said:
I couldn't careless who Gu competes for, its her choice, But of course, you never miss an opportunity to twist an unrelated story to Trump bashing. I don't care for him either, but you've got a serious addiction. You should see a professional about it.
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In reality, you and your friends have such a serious addiction to trashing an 18 year old girl that you keep complaining about it at a kiddie soccer website, despite it having nothing to do with kiddie soccer. If anything is "unrelated", it is you bringing this particular brand of xenophobia here. Meanwhile, you and dad4 keep buying just about everything from China without a second thought and supporting the one person who has benefited more from the largess of repressive countries than any living American citizen.
 
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