Hand Ball Rule

watfly

GOLD
It meets the criteria for a foul in the laws that begins with the word "usually". The law was never meant to be applied in a black and white fashion like that. The only law that actually matters is section 1: was it deliberate. Its only confusing to you because it would be easier to understand if it was black and white, but its not. The referee has to look at all the situations leading up to the ball hitting the hand above the head. I can personally think of several situations where I would not call a pk handball even if it hits someone's hand above their head. and all of those would be "unusual". It is my prerogative because I am the only unbiased person on the field that tries to call a fair game, and if in my opinion, a pk for a ball to hand above the head is unfair, then I won't call it.

I don't understand what is so special about handball. Everyone understands the gray area that can go into calling and not calling fouls, giving and not giving cards, etc. But everyone seems to want handball to be called like offside.

Get over it, the only reason the handball rule existed in the first place was to make soccer a game played with the feet, otherwise it would just turn into rugby. Everything else is just nitpicking because the original purpose of the law has already been met. And I'm okay with nitpicking because we need to draw fuzzy lines somewhere. I think Handling should just be a IFK unless its a DOGSO personally, but I just call it the way the law intends.
You should run for office.

Look, my original point to the OP was that your not going to find anything in the LOTG that would explain why "play was directed to continue" after a ball hits an extended arm. The reason being because the laws, particularly handball, are highly subjective. You've proved that point repeatedly. Yes, terms like usually, game management, or the concepts of ref's prerogative and the ref's sense of fairness are some of the reasons that make it highly subjective. The new rules (although I agree with you that there not so much new, but a "codification" of ideas already implemented by some refs) have only served to increase that subjectivity, particularly where it appears that a ref ignores them to apply his personal sense of fairness. Maybe I'm jaded by American sport officiating, but when you allow officials to materially deviate from the rules in favor of the refs own personal concept of fairness you're going to get some really controversial results. Its nothing to get over, its just the unfortunate evolution of the modern game.
 

SDMama

BRONZE
So, to check my understanding - If a ball is kicked in the middle of the field (so not leading to an immediate goal scoring opportunity) and hits the forearm of an opposing player nearby (not a deliberate contact) and results in a change of possession, it is not a handball?
 

watfly

GOLD
So, to check my understanding - If a ball is kicked in the middle of the field (so not leading to an immediate goal scoring opportunity) and hits the forearm of an opposing player nearby (not a deliberate contact) and results in a change of possession, it is not a handball?
Yes, as the LOTG are written its not a foul as long as it doesn't lead to a goal or a goal scoring opportunity.
 

SDMama

BRONZE
Yes, as the LOTG are written its not a foul as long as it doesn't lead to a goal or a goal scoring opportunity.
Ah. This is helpful to know. We always get upset if there is a handball that seems to give the offending player’s team (read: the OTHER team ;P) some advantage, even when it is inadvertent and doesn’t lead to a goal. But I guess it’s just part of the game and isn’t a foul as long as there is no goal scoring opportunity that results.

It seems to me that most of the time, contact with the hand/arm/etc. is accidental, so most times there would be no foul called (at least at the ages I’m watching). (I apologize to all the referees that called this correctly while we mumbled to ourselves on the sidelines! ... We usually aren’t too bad, but imagine it must get annoying.)

Thanks to everyone for helping to clarify my understanding!
 
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