From Russia With Love

So I'm trying to get my head around what's going on with Trump and Ukraine. If I've got it wrong somebody tell me, but from what I understand Trump threatened Ukraine (who is fighting off a Russian backed insurgence) that he would cut off aid unless they helped him attack relatives of his political enemies back in America?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/us/politics/whistle-blower-trump-grudge.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Now of course the nutters are going to scream fake news, but if what's being said is true and the transcript of the phone call backs it up, I don't see how Trump dodges an impeachment...
Both Pence and Giuliani have denied and admitted this within the time limits of a single interview.

<paraphrasing> "No we didn't do that"..."Here's why we had to do that"
 
Both Pence and Giuliani have denied and admitted this within the time limits of a single interview.

<paraphrasing> "No we didn't do that"..."Here's why we had to do that"
Was Rudy's rabid deliver part of the act or is he simply senile? It is telling the state of mental health t is in that he feels unleashing Rudy on live TV is somehow a positive . . . but then again if the t-swallowers in here are any indication there are many lunatic Rudys out there spitting and yelling and foaming at the mouth. It's like if the movie "The Crazies" and "Idiocracy" merged.
 
Was Rudy's rabid deliver part of the act or is he simply senile? It is telling the state of mental health t is in that he feels unleashing Rudy on live TV is somehow a positive . . . but then again if the t-swallowers in here are any indication there are many lunatic Rudys out there spitting and yelling and foaming at the mouth. It's like if the movie "The Crazies" and "Idiocracy" merged.
At our age (me and Rudy et al.) we can get away with saying outrageous things either because we don't know any better or so that we can playfully dick with people.
 
The filter is gone, all wore out.
While waiting for my daughter at the museum door, I had a conversation with the young guy checking tickets. He told me about Angelina Jolie's visit "just last week" with her kids and a discreet bodyguard, I told him about meeting Cher and not knowing it, and I asked him if he knew what I meant by "the Superman Building", since LA City Hall is visible from that corner. When I had asked the lady at the Union Station information desk about it showed me how to get somewhere else (maybe a different building used a background in a more recent Superman movie?).


It is also used in long shots as the headquarters of the Daily Planet.

 
So I'm trying to get my head around what's going on with Trump and Ukraine. If I've got it wrong somebody tell me, but from what I understand Trump threatened Ukraine (who is fighting off a Russian backed insurgence) that he would cut off aid unless they helped him attack relatives of his political enemies back in America?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/us/politics/whistle-blower-trump-grudge.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Now of course the nutters are going to scream fake news, but if what's being said is true and the transcript of the phone call backs it up, I don't see how Trump dodges an impeachment...
Mueller Time!!
 
So I'm trying to get my head around what's going on with Trump and Ukraine. If I've got it wrong somebody tell me, but from what I understand Trump threatened Ukraine (who is fighting off a Russian backed insurgence) that he would cut off aid unless they helped him attack relatives of his political enemies back in America?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/us/politics/whistle-blower-trump-grudge.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Now of course the nutters are going to scream fake news, but if what's being said is true and the transcript of the phone call backs it up, I don't see how Trump dodges an impeachment...
1. You’re wrong.
2. Do you know how Hillary lost?
3. Who did you vote for.
4. You people crack me up.
 
While waiting for my daughter at the museum door, I had a conversation with the young guy checking tickets. He told me about Angelina Jolie's visit "just last week" with her kids and a discreet bodyguard, I told him about meeting Cher and not knowing it, and I asked him if he knew what I meant by "the Superman Building", since LA City Hall is visible from that corner. When I had asked the lady at the Union Station information desk about it showed me how to get somewhere else (maybe a different building used a background in a more recent Superman movie?).


It is also used in long shots as the headquarters of the Daily Planet.

A good friend of ours was on a coast to coast flight years ago with her infant girl in first class when the baby started crying. The lady sitting in the seat next to her offered to help get her to calm down. That lady was Angelina Jolie, who held the baby for 3 hours.
 

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Mueller Time!!
Weren't the rightie tighties promising inquiry's on day one of the Hillary Clinton presidency, and yet when it comes to Trump there seems to be another standard...

Anyway, this one doesn't seem like it's going to need a Mueller level investigation. Folks just need to look at the transcript of the conversation. Let's hope for Trumps sake it doesn't end up like the tape recordings from Nixon's office.
 
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A good friend of ours was on a coast to coast flight years
ago with her infant girl in first class when the baby started crying.
The lady sitting in the seat next to her offered to help get her to calm down.
That lady was Angelina Jolie, who held the baby for 3 hours.
Ok.........
 

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Trump, Giuliani the Only Dopes Who Believe “Completely Debunked” Biden Conspiracy

White House aides say the president was repeatedly told the right-wing theory was groundless. He ignored them.

Donald Trump’s July 25 phone call with Volodymyr Zelensky showcased the president’s obvious corruption, underscoring the lengths to which he’ll go to maintain power—in this case, by pressuring Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political rival. But the shady conversation also served as a reminder of something else: That the president’s bottomless appetite for conspiracies informs, and exacerbates, his worst tendencies.

In his call with the Ukranian president, Trump pressed not only for a probe into Biden and his son, Hunter, but also into CrowdStrike, an American cybersecurity firm that helped the Democratic National Committee investigate its 2016 email hack. Trump appeared to believe that the DNC server might be hidden somewhere in the country. “The server, they say Ukraine has it,” Trump told Zelensky, according to a rough readout of the call. But former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Bossert refuted the conspiracy theory on Sunday, telling George Stephanopoulos that the crackpot narrative embraced by Trump and Rudy Giuliani doesn’t have a shred of merit. “It’s not only a conspiracy theory,” Bossert said. “It is completely debunked.”

The theory on the right is that Ukraine is responsible for the DNC hack, and that Kiev subsequently framed Russia for the whole ordeal, perhaps with the help of Democrats themselves. As the New York Times reported Sunday, Bossert and other United States officials repeatedly told Trump that there was nothing to it, including in conversations just before his inauguration and shortly thereafter. Still, it was reportedly a “constant struggle” to convince Trump that Ukraine wasn’t responsible, a former senior administration official told the Times. Just when it seemed like the truth might sink in, the president would talk to friends like Giuliani and reverse course. “At this point, I am deeply frustrated with what [Giuliani] and the legal team is doing and repeating that debunked theory to the president,” Bossert said Sunday. “It sticks in [Trump’s] mind when he hears it over and over again.”

One former aide blamed Giuliani’s firm belief in the theory for the mess in which Trump now finds himself. The lawyer, the aide told the Times, would “feed Trump all kinds of garbage” that created “a real problem for all of us.” In an interview on Sunday, former Ukranian head prosecutor Yuri Lutsenko said he saw no evidence of wrongdoing in Hunter Biden’s case. “I told him I could not start an investigation just for the interests of an American official,” Lutsenko said of his dealings with Giuliani.

The abuse of presidential power apparent in the rough transcript of Trump’s Zelensky call and the whistleblower complaint declassified last week have sparked increasing support for his impeachment. According to a new CBS News poll, more than half of Americans now back the inquiry Nancy Pelosi officially launched last week. Still, despite concern from some Republicans about the phone call and the president’s unbalanced behavior, most in the GOP have either stayed on the sidelines or gone to absurd lengths to defend him. “Why would we move forward with impeachment?” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said in an embarrassingly ineffectual attempt to dismiss allegations of Trump’s wrongdoing on 60 Minutes Sunday. “There’s not something that you have to defend here.”

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Trump, Giuliani the Only Dopes Who Believe “Completely Debunked” Biden Conspiracy

White House aides say the president was repeatedly told the right-wing theory was groundless. He ignored them.

Donald Trump’s July 25 phone call with Volodymyr Zelensky showcased the president’s obvious corruption, underscoring the lengths to which he’ll go to maintain power—in this case, by pressuring Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political rival. But the shady conversation also served as a reminder of something else: That the president’s bottomless appetite for conspiracies informs, and exacerbates, his worst tendencies.

In his call with the Ukranian president, Trump pressed not only for a probe into Biden and his son, Hunter, but also into CrowdStrike, an American cybersecurity firm that helped the Democratic National Committee investigate its 2016 email hack. Trump appeared to believe that the DNC server might be hidden somewhere in the country. “The server, they say Ukraine has it,” Trump told Zelensky, according to a rough readout of the call. But former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Bossert refuted the conspiracy theory on Sunday, telling George Stephanopoulos that the crackpot narrative embraced by Trump and Rudy Giuliani doesn’t have a shred of merit. “It’s not only a conspiracy theory,” Bossert said. “It is completely debunked.”

The theory on the right is that Ukraine is responsible for the DNC hack, and that Kiev subsequently framed Russia for the whole ordeal, perhaps with the help of Democrats themselves. As the New York Times reported Sunday, Bossert and other United States officials repeatedly told Trump that there was nothing to it, including in conversations just before his inauguration and shortly thereafter. Still, it was reportedly a “constant struggle” to convince Trump that Ukraine wasn’t responsible, a former senior administration official told the Times. Just when it seemed like the truth might sink in, the president would talk to friends like Giuliani and reverse course. “At this point, I am deeply frustrated with what [Giuliani] and the legal team is doing and repeating that debunked theory to the president,” Bossert said Sunday. “It sticks in [Trump’s] mind when he hears it over and over again.”

One former aide blamed Giuliani’s firm belief in the theory for the mess in which Trump now finds himself. The lawyer, the aide told the Times, would “feed Trump all kinds of garbage” that created “a real problem for all of us.” In an interview on Sunday, former Ukranian head prosecutor Yuri Lutsenko said he saw no evidence of wrongdoing in Hunter Biden’s case. “I told him I could not start an investigation just for the interests of an American official,” Lutsenko said of his dealings with Giuliani.

The abuse of presidential power apparent in the rough transcript of Trump’s Zelensky call and the whistleblower complaint declassified last week have sparked increasing support for his impeachment. According to a new CBS News poll, more than half of Americans now back the inquiry Nancy Pelosi officially launched last week. Still, despite concern from some Republicans about the phone call and the president’s unbalanced behavior, most in the GOP have either stayed on the sidelines or gone to absurd lengths to defend him. “Why would we move forward with impeachment?” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said in an embarrassingly ineffectual attempt to dismiss allegations of Trump’s wrongdoing on 60 Minutes Sunday. “There’s not something that you have to defend here.”

More Great Stories from Vanity Fair

— Impeachment fervor is causing a ruckus at Fox News
— Why Rudy Giuliani’s Ukrainian adventure could end his career
— Inside the stunning collapse of WeWork (and its kooky CEO)
— It’s official: Trump has met his Twitter match
— A surprise appearance by Tiffany Trump
— From the Archive: The power broker who taught Donald Trump the dark political arts

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You have syphilis don't you.....

" It can be 10 or 20 years before you experience the worst effects.
Eventually, untreated syphilis can lead to damage to the brain,
eyes, heart, nerves, bones, joints, and liver.
You could also become paralyzed, blind, demented,
or lose feeling in the body. "

https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/infectious-diseases/sexually-transmitted-diseases-std/syphilis/?network=g&matchtype=p&keyword=long term effects of syphilis&creative=308945384620&device=c&devicemodel=&placement=&position=1t1&campaignid=296891415&adgroupid=20734617015&loc_physical_ms=9031372&loc_interest_ms=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6d6s6Iv55AIVuSCtBh0xPAhlEAAYASAAEgL0qPD_BwE
 

Nonononono

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You have syphilis don't you.....

" It can be 10 or 20 years before you experience the worst effects.
Eventually, untreated syphilis can lead to damage to the brain,
eyes, heart, nerves, bones, joints, and liver.
You could also become paralyzed, blind, demented,
or lose feeling in the body. "

https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/infectious-diseases/sexually-transmitted-diseases-std/syphilis/?network=g&matchtype=p&keyword=long term effects of syphilis&creative=308945384620&device=c&devicemodel=&placement=&position=1t1&campaignid=296891415&adgroupid=20734617015&loc_physical_ms=9031372&loc_interest_ms=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6d6s6Iv55AIVuSCtBh0xPAhlEAAYASAAEgL0qPD_BwE
If I’m tired, is that a symptom?

I’m not tired.
 
If I’m tired, is that a symptom?

I’m not tired.
I am so comforted by the facts that I was tested at least three times in my life to determine if I had any non-symptomatic venereal disease and none was found. Also, I was treated with antibiotics for other diseases that would have wiped out any lingering venereal infections anyway. 4nos might want to be screened just for his own self-confidence, because he certainly exhibits symptoms of what a concerned care-giver might not be able to eliminate as possibly arising from tertiary syphilis here every day.
 

Nonononono

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I am so comforted by the facts that I was tested at least three times in my life to determine if I had any non-symptomatic venereal disease and none was found. Also, I was treated with antibiotics for other diseases that would have wiped out any lingering venereal infections anyway. 4nos might want to be screened just for his own self-confidence, because he certainly exhibits symptoms of what a concerned care-giver might not be able to eliminate as possibly arising from tertiary syphilis here every day.
I’m tired. Really, I am. I’m tired of trying to help nono help himself out of his syphilis psychosis.
 
I am so comforted by the facts that I was tested at least three times in my life to determine if I had any non-symptomatic venereal disease and none was found. Also, I was treated with antibiotics for other diseases that would have wiped out any lingering venereal infections anyway. 4nos might want to be screened just for his own self-confidence, because he certainly exhibits symptoms of what a concerned care-giver might not be able to eliminate as possibly arising from tertiary syphilis here every day.
Trump has it.
 
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