ECNL split into two (again)?

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I'm just curious if anyone knows it they're going to continue with the two divisions in SW for the upcoming ECNL season? (mojave/sonoroan)
 
I'm just curious if anyone knows it they're going to continue with the two divisions in SW for the upcoming ECNL season? (mojave/sonoroan)
Well, the ECNL Heat director set it up so Vegas has a better chance at the ECNL playoffs, so that’s the roadblock to changes anytime soon.
 
I'm just curious if anyone knows it they're going to continue with the two divisions in SW for the upcoming ECNL season? (mojave/sonoroan)
I bet soon SW ECNL splits out the top SW ECNL clubs and the bottom SW ECNL clubs into their own leagues + with 2-3 cross league games per season that don't affect league standings. The top clubs don't care about travel distance + the bottom clubs want an opportunity to show wins.

This would be a good way to ease new clubs into SW ECNL + is similar to MLS Next league structure where the Next Teams associated with MLS clubs dominate but for the most part they play each other. However, every once in a while non MLS Next teams get to play them.

This is how you grow a league + brand without having 2-3 teams dominate every season.

You'll get a bunch of blowouts at showcases but there will be more attendees because lower level teams aren't eliminated before the showcase occurs.

Also this type of config allows for inter league relegation.
 
Well, the ECNL Heat director set it up so Vegas has a better chance at the ECNL playoffs, so that’s the roadblock to changes anytime soon.

Many parents feel going to Vegas from SoCAL for 1 game is a waste of time and money. Especially, when the other team isn't competitive.
 
I bet soon SW ECNL splits out the top SW ECNL clubs and the bottom SW ECNL clubs into their own leagues + with 2-3 cross league games per season that don't affect league standings. The top clubs don't care about travel distance + the bottom clubs want an opportunity to show wins.

This would be a good way to ease new clubs into SW ECNL + is similar to MLS Next league structure where the Next Teams associated with MLS clubs dominate but for the most part they play each other. However, every once in a while non MLS Next teams get to play them.

This is how you grow a league + brand without having 2-3 teams dominate every season.

You'll get a bunch of blowouts at showcases but there will be more attendees because lower level teams aren't eliminated before the showcase occurs.

Also this type of config allows for inter league relegation.
Relegation is a nasty word. Relegation is what killed off Presidio and CSL (and therefore had a strong negative effect on Cal South).
 
Relegation is a nasty word. Relegation is what killed off Presidio and CSL (and therefore had a strong negative effect on Cal South).
If it's all within SW ECNL it's not a big issue. Especially is you have 2-3 cross league games.
 
I bet soon SW ECNL splits out the top SW ECNL clubs and the bottom SW ECNL clubs into their own leagues + with 2-3 cross league games per season that don't affect league standings. The top clubs don't care about travel distance + the bottom clubs want an opportunity to show wins.

This would be a good way to ease new clubs into SW ECNL + is similar to MLS Next league structure where the Next Teams associated with MLS clubs dominate but for the most part they play each other. However, every once in a while non MLS Next teams get to play them.

This is how you grow a league + brand without having 2-3 teams dominate every season.

You'll get a bunch of blowouts at showcases but there will be more attendees because lower level teams aren't eliminated before the showcase occurs.

Also this type of config allows for inter league relegation.
I like the concept. However, 3 teams from each division currently have the opportunity to make playoffs. I don't see the top clubs agreeing to this re-alignment unless you are going to also change the allocation of who makes the playoffs (5 in the top division and 1 in the bottom??).
 
I like the concept. However, 3 teams from each division currently have the opportunity to make playoffs. I don't see the top clubs agreeing to this re-alignment unless you are going to also change the allocation of who makes the playoffs (5 in the top division and 1 in the bottom??).
Why? if you split it out 3 and 3. The top 3 teams will run the show + look super amazing for scouts. Which is the ultimate goal of a showcase.
 
I bet soon SW ECNL splits out the top SW ECNL clubs and the bottom SW ECNL clubs into their own leagues + with 2-3 cross league games per season that don't affect league standings. The top clubs don't care about travel distance + the bottom clubs want an opportunity to show wins.

This would be a good way to ease new clubs into SW ECNL + is similar to MLS Next league structure where the Next Teams associated with MLS clubs dominate but for the most part they play each other. However, every once in a while non MLS Next teams get to play them.

This is how you grow a league + brand without having 2-3 teams dominate every season.

You'll get a bunch of blowouts at showcases but there will be more attendees because lower level teams aren't eliminated before the showcase occurs.

Also this type of config allows for inter league relegation.


What is odd to me is that the structure of the EC National League and EC Regional League are identical. Both leagues are playing teams in their Region (Conference); no one is really playing in a true National League. Seems redundant, and the top two or three teams in most of the ECNL Conferences are consistantly dominating. If the ECNL took the top three teams from each Conference and made a true league play between them, that would be a National League in which blowouts and mismatches would be minimal. Move all the other clubs top teams into the ECRL, have promotion and relegation between the ECNL and ECRL; if a club is promoted into ECNL they have their second team move up into ECRL. Promote the Finalists from ECRL Playoffs into ECNL, relegate the two bottom teams from ECNL League play. There is already significant overlap of the bottom ECNL teams with the top ECRL teams, so this would potentially align the compitition across the entire ECNL/ECRL..
 
Why? if you split it out 3 and 3. The top 3 teams will run the show + look super amazing for scouts. Which is the ultimate goal of a showcase.
The playoffs are not a showcase and the top clubs all want to say they are in champions league playoffs fighting for a national championship. You think Blues, Surf, Slammers, Legends, Beach would agree to reduce their teams' chances of making playoffs? C'mon.
 
The playoffs are not a showcase and the top clubs all want to say they are in champions league playoffs fighting for a national championship. You think Blues, Surf, Slammers, Legends, Beach would agree to reduce their teams' chances of making playoffs? C'mon.
I get what you're saying. Give them a 2nd ECNL team to make everyone happy. ;-)
 
I bet soon SW ECNL splits out the top SW ECNL clubs and the bottom SW ECNL clubs into their own leagues + with 2-3 cross league games per season that don't affect league standings. The top clubs don't care about travel distance + the bottom clubs want an opportunity to show wins.

This would be a good way to ease new clubs into SW ECNL + is similar to MLS Next league structure where the Next Teams associated with MLS clubs dominate but for the most part they play each other. However, every once in a while non MLS Next teams get to play them.

This is how you grow a league + brand without having 2-3 teams dominate every season.

You'll get a bunch of blowouts at showcases but there will be more attendees because lower level teams aren't eliminated before the showcase occurs.

Also this type of config allows for inter league relegation.

I'd take this bet....and not sure mls next can be touted as a success when people were saying the same thing about DA the first year......I am not saying it won't be but look how that turned out.....girls ecnl is booming and it is pretty great matchups every weekend......
 
The only realignment that makes sense is to move Royals into Sonoran division to maximize local play for the three AZ clubs. And then make LA area based Mojave clubs travel away to Sonoran teams during cross divisional play to make up the travel disparity.
 
The only realignment that makes sense is to move Royals into Sonoran division to maximize local play for the three AZ clubs. And then make LA area based Mojave clubs travel away to Sonoran teams during cross divisional play to make up the travel disparity.
How about the competitive disparity between the Utah/Arizona teams vs the rest of the league? In the U16 division, the goal differential was -38, -55, and -83.....
 
ECNL will not redo things to make it work out for socal.

Making it work for socal is easy. Great Park has more top level teams than most states. If you need a challenge, you can always walk to the next field over and talk to the coach.

The hard part is making it work for Minnesota.
 
I didn't mind how it was before the split... playing each team twice. But I guess this way is fine too. Weird Slammers isn't with the other OC/SD teams only Koge is. Pats were added this year so it was almost an even number, except Strikers are out. Unless I missed something?

Excited for league to start... was it me or is summer just zooming by?
 
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