DPL-Pilot Teams

Lambchop

GOLD
This past year in the SW ECNL there were more than a few B teams.

These clubs had DA and ECNL...Slammers, Blues, Surf, West Coast. And yes I know in a couple of age brackets girls stayed as team vs moving to DA. But in general if you were in the ECNL in the SW Division playing those clubs you were playing their B squads. And still they overall were some of the better teams.

Same thing I think for SOME of the clubs that have DA and DPL teams.

I am not giving DPL credit...just pointing out that B teams were in ECNL SW Division and will be this coming year.
As stated before, if you play a weaker team you look like a soccer stud. It is only when you play against a strong, skilled team that you have a true comparison as to the level of play your team is at.
 

Lambchop

GOLD
I am surprised to read this for you MWN, you are usually more pragmatic.

Only one year into it this DPL league sure seems to have raised some eyebrows and attracted a lot of attention and some resentment. There are clearly some people, seems especially in the IE who don’t like it and want to falsely project it to be a non-elite league. Funny thing is many of the people purporting this don’t even have players in the action any more.

Back in the past, it was much simpler and candidly better for our players. Top players played ECNL (which is still great) and could play HS without some idiots claiming they were lesser players for not giving that up and playing DA. That’s where we started until all this nonsense hit with DA, DPL, Et al..
Interesting that the conferences that pulled out of DA and are all into ECNL, have made their former DA teams ECNL 1 teams, and their former ECNL teams, ECNL 2 teams. Says a lot, plus they get to make and keep all their money from their big ECNL tournaments.
 

Pitch pop

SILVER
Interesting that the conferences that pulled out of DA and are all into ECNL, have made their former DA teams ECNL 1 teams, and their former ECNL teams, ECNL 2 teams. Says a lot, plus they get to make and keep all their money from their big ECNL tournaments.
Not so sure this is true... I know of multiple teams that used the best players from last years ECNL and DA rosters to form the upcoming ECNL 1 teams for next year. There are more than a few girls that were DA last year now on the ECNL2 rosters for next season.
 
Not so sure this is true... I know of multiple teams that used the best players from last years ECNL and DA rosters to form the upcoming ECNL 1 teams for next year. There are more than a few girls that were DA last year now on the ECNL2 rosters for next season.
LAFC Slammers is the only club in the Southwest that this would apply to. How do you know multiple teams that this applies to? I have yet to see any rosters posted so what is the facts that support your statement?
 
I think it is yet to be seen which will.be the top ECNL team at the clubs that have pulled out of DA and will now have two ECNL teams. Seems like it will be some interesting situations within clubs for DOCand parents
 
Interesting that the conferences that pulled out of DA and are all into ECNL, have made their former DA teams ECNL 1 teams, and their former ECNL teams, ECNL 2 teams. Says a lot, plus they get to make and keep all their money from their big ECNL tournaments.
To be honest with you I don’t quite understand your take on this post (i.e. “Says a lot. . .). Says a lot of what?
 
Interesting that the conferences that pulled out of DA and are all into ECNL, have made their former DA teams ECNL 1 teams, and their former ECNL teams, ECNL 2 teams. Says a lot, plus they get to make and keep all their money from their big ECNL tournaments.
What “Conferences” pulled out of DA?
 

Lambchop

GOLD
Not so sure this is true... I know of multiple teams that used the best players from last years ECNL and DA rosters to form the upcoming ECNL 1 teams for next year. There are more than a few girls that were DA last year now on the ECNL2 rosters for next season.
What “Conferences” pulled out of DA?[/QUOTE
What “Conferences” pulled out of DA?
Sorry, was referring to "clubs "in different "conferences". Primarily back east.
 

Fact

PREMIER
The more all of this goes on the worse it looks for US Soccer. They come across as disorganized and impulsive with poorly thought out decisions with regards to all of this. They either have really no plan about any of this or they have no concern for the best interest of the youth players.
Despite the end game being different than boys, I am not sure why they did not follow the boys DA model and call it a day. I guess job security?
 

Hired Gun

SILVER ELITE
It is slightly more expensive. Here are some of the actual costs:

All are not specific to each club.

1. Filming of Games. Hudl cost if you pay for assist credits.
2. Field Costs - extra night of training, half field per team etc.
3. Coaches typically coach two teams or just one. Salary increase per team.
4. Registration for player card $50 per player versus $25.
5. Fitness program costs.
6. More home games. Field cost.
7. Some ECNL clubs do not have trainers at games, but I think that is not the case anymore.

Again the above do not apply to all clubs.

Registration per team is $5k in DA $1k in ECNL. But DA covers Ref fees and no separate fee for showcases like in ECNL. So I bet this is a wash. But some ECNL clubs make parents pay Ref fees as team fee.
Many top coaches have made this comment as well regarding cost...Remember this is a business, Slammers is a fine oil machine (business). More training days for DA teams - which means less teams for most coaches DA coaches, the need for A Licensed coaches = more needed money, US Soccer demands/requirements on proper practice and game fields. Along with "Soccer's" List it all adds up. On top of this some clubs partially or completely fund teams -- no cost there?? I don't hear too much ECNL funding... And the clubs that are not funded may partially fund some of the best players to compete in the recruitment process...
 

JoeZ

SILVER
Despite the end game being different than boys, I am not sure why they did not follow the boys DA model and call it a day. I guess job security?
Keep dreaming....
Another change that DPL clubs are keeping quiet is that DP's are gone. No more DPL players that were told they could DP on the DA teams. You should have heard some of the DOC's on the call squirming over that announcement. They are now referred to as Part-time players. Here's the kicker. To be a part-time player, you can't play high school even though you aren't on a DA team. DA teams have to have 14 FT players before they can add any PT players. PT players have to train with the DA team 1-2 x per week and can play in other leagues (like DPL) but the no high-school rule now applies to PT players so all those DPL players that wanted to play high-school and DP for the DA teams now are not only NOT on DA teams but to be a PT player they have to give up high school too (which was one of the big selling points for DPL). I'm not sure who wants to be on a B team and give up high school too but that will have to be a player by player decision but there are some SoCal DA/DPL clubs pitching a fit over this new revelation since they've sold one thing and DA just told them that isn't going to fly.
Thanks for sharing this. It’s disappointing. Those running this DA program are hurting the players who want to play HS and it’s ridiculous. What’s their point in trying to kill HS soccer. Bad enough to force a kid to not play HS if they want to be looked at for a national team spot, now the bastards want to block them from even being able to play at all on a DA team, especially when ECNL is not an option any longer .Wish this came out earlier as we would move to a club that was all-in ECNL. Not blaming the club for going DPL, it’s the people who created and run this GDA who have created chaos and block opportunity for our players. DA leadership is pathetic. I applaud the club’s who have gone all in ECNL to protect their players from the GDA madness.
 

meatsweats

SILVER ELITE
How do you see Blues handling Tad’s team vs Abner’s in this scenario? Greg holds down the 02 spot at ecnl. That’s a talented 03 team that would disappear in this scenario.
Have to say, the DA '02 team at Surf Cup was a definite contender and very skilled, fast and full of heart. So we shall see... Another interesting year!
 

Josep

GOLD
Thanks for sharing this. It’s disappointing. Those running this DA program are hurting the players who want to play HS and it’s ridiculous. What’s their point in trying to kill HS soccer. Bad enough to force a kid to not play HS if they want to be looked at for a national team spot, now the bastards want to block them from even being able to play at all on a DA team, especially when ECNL is not an option any longer .Wish this came out earlier as we would move to a club that was all-in ECNL. Not blaming the club for going DPL, it’s the people who created and run this GDA who have created chaos and block opportunity for our players. DA leadership is pathetic. I applaud the club’s who have gone all in ECNL to protect their players from the GDA madness.

Nobody needs protection. You choose to play where you play if the coach will have you. That’s DA, ecnl and anything else.

And again to show how unimportant HS is, you had even more kids this year willing to skip it to play DA or Pilot. Nobody is heartbroken about missing out on HS.
 

Toepoke

SILVER
....And again to show how unimportant HS is, you had even more kids this year willing to skip it to play DA or Pilot. Nobody is heartbroken about missing out on HS.
I think the not missing out on HS soccer has a lot to do with the level of play on that HS soccer team. Girls that are very talented but goes to a school that plays lower level competition and with less talented teammates would not benefit from playing HS soccer (other than just wanting to play with friends). My DD's HS team was a mixture of waivered DA, ECNL and tier 1 players that played in a league against teams that also had high quality club players playing HS. When we played JSerra in CIF playoffs we were playing girls from the 01 & 02 Blues Baker teams. Memories of our run during the playoffs will last a lifetime for those who played and the DA girls who didn't play all wished they could have. So while I agree that HS is unimportant to some, I know for a fact there are several girls that were heartbroken on missing out on HS soccer.
 

Josep

GOLD
I think the not missing out on HS soccer has a lot to do with the level of play on that HS soccer team. Girls that are very talented but goes to a school that plays lower level competition and with less talented teammates would not benefit from playing HS soccer (other than just wanting to play with friends). My DD's HS team was a mixture of waivered DA, ECNL and tier 1 players that played in a league against teams that also had high quality club players playing HS. When we played JSerra in CIF playoffs we were playing girls from the 01 & 02 Blues Baker teams. Memories of our run during the playoffs will last a lifetime for those who played and the DA girls who didn't play all wished they could have. So while I agree that HS is unimportant to some, I know for a fact there are several girls that were heartbroken on missing out on HS soccer.
 
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