D1 college soccer under threat

$$$ everything revolves around finances. What do athletic departments cut first, 2nd, 3rd:. Staff, travel, scholarship?

Downsizing will likely be ongoing for many years, recovering from the financial losses and budget constraints due to COVID-19 will take many years, plus the added cost of the new requirements. Reduced revenue from the money sports, fewer enrollments, reductions in State and federal contributions are already happening. Relief bills @ the federal level hopefully will help if a new administration can get them passed.

The pie is only so big, some will still get a slice but there slice is likely to be smaller and harder to obtain so don't count on it for your athlete.

Have a plan for your student athletes to move their education forward regardless of what happens in D1. Would they still attend or be happy at the University of sports is not going on or if they no longer can offer scholarships at the level they did previously?
 

Copa9

GOLD

“CBS Sports’ Dennis Dodd is reporting that the NCAA dead period, which has been in place since March because of the coronavirus pandemic, will be extended through April 15, 2021. Dodd said the NCAA Council is expected to approve the move at its meeting Nov. 18.”

Can someone explain why Div 1 is hamstringing their own efforts on recruiting? This is their own decision, not thrust upon them by some higher power. I‘m not buying that it has anything to do with some sort of social responsibility surrounding the pandemic. I’ll guess the decision revolves around the money sports (football and basketball), but I
seriously cannot figure out why.
A little off topic, congratulations to my bgdd on signing her NLI Wednesday to play D1 soccer! Scholarship in tact! Congratulations to all the other girls who also signed. Way to stay strong, work hard, ignore rumors, and move on to the next level!
 
I think it has more to do with employee safety. What college wants their coaches out on the road right now?
I saw a lot of D2 and D3 at the Reach 11 so far last two days. Those D2 Presidents are so hard on their coaches and treat them so harsh. I guess I must be such a terrible parent for allowing my goat to play in AZ yesterday, today and tomorrow. Bad dad!!!
 

Giesbock

SILVER ELITE
Glad you’re out there Crush and family! Keep social distance, no team dinners and everything should be ok.

if coaches are there, guess I can only hope there were a few out a few weekends ago to see my kid rock it on Saturday and score a nice goal on Sunday.
 
Glad you’re out there Crush and family! Keep social distance, no team dinners and everything should be ok.

if coaches are there, guess I can only hope there were a few out a few weekends ago to see my kid rock it on Saturday and score a nice goal on Sunday.
I can't wait to make that 5 and half hr drive tmrw after our 7:30am ((6:30am for socal kids)). I'm done with soccer until next year Gies bock. Stay safe out there. Hopefully OC can be Orange and can get HS Soccer going next year and just focus on free soccer. I cant see kids from California allowed to leave the state anymore. HS Soccer seams like the next best thing.
 
So what's taking the the PAC-12 and the WCC so long to cancel the season. BIG West, IVY and few strays have canceled. I can't imagine there's a loss in revenue for volleyball, soccer, baseball, track, etc. All of those cost money to run and universities are losing tens of millions in lost housing revenue. Furlough all athletic staff not affiliated with revenue generated programs.

1) There's no way Newsome is going to allow non revenue sports to compete.
2) COVID is blowing up in LA with 0 ICU beds available and expect this to hit a peak in the next 7 days or so.
3) Vaccine distribution is going at a snail pace because health care workers are stretched thin.
 

dk_b

GOLD
So what's taking the the PAC-12 and the WCC so long to cancel the season. BIG West, IVY and few strays have canceled. I can't imagine there's a loss in revenue for volleyball, soccer, baseball, track, etc. All of those cost money to run and universities are losing tens of millions in lost housing revenue. Furlough all athletic staff not affiliated with revenue generated programs.

1) There's no way Newsome is going to allow non revenue sports to compete.
2) COVID is blowing up in LA with 0 ICU beds available and expect this to hit a peak in the next 7 days or so.
3) Vaccine distribution is going at a snail pace because health care workers are stretched thin.
Based on yesterday's release by the Pac12 regarding attendance, I think the Pac is still planning on playing a season. The WCC has released its conference schedule. I do think that conferences/schools that did have football and had/have protocols in place for football and basketball, will try very hard to have a season. Otherwise, they will have an equivalency argument that they will have to defend. If it were solely a public health defense, that might work but when they have demonstrated some ability to have protocols for the last several months, their public health defense may not be as strong.

Here's yesterday's press release: Pac-12 extends prohibition of fan attendance at sports competitions | Pac-12 (pac-12.com)
 
Based on yesterday's release by the Pac12 regarding attendance, I think the Pac is still planning on playing a season. The WCC has released its conference schedule. I do think that conferences/schools that did have football and had/have protocols in place for football and basketball, will try very hard to have a season. Otherwise, they will have an equivalency argument that they will have to defend. If it were solely a public health defense, that might work but when they have demonstrated some ability to have protocols for the last several months, their public health defense may not be as strong.

Here's yesterday's press release: Pac-12 extends prohibition of fan attendance at sports competitions | Pac-12 (pac-12.com)
thanks for the information. Seems like there are different rules depending on what county you are in .

Recently in San Francisco there was a mandatory 10 day quarantine for anyone entering the county. Clearly this would affect many teams coming to play USF.

Santa Clara is going is going to have some issue having games in their county, one of the most progressive and restrictive counties in the bay area.
I mean the NINERS can't play in their own stadium despite NFL covid protocol. Crazy.
 
Based on yesterday's release by the Pac12 regarding attendance, I think the Pac is still planning on playing a season. The WCC has released its conference schedule. I do think that conferences/schools that did have football and had/have protocols in place for football and basketball, will try very hard to have a season. Otherwise, they will have an equivalency argument that they will have to defend. If it were solely a public health defense, that might work but when they have demonstrated some ability to have protocols for the last several months, their public health defense may not be as strong.

Here's yesterday's press release: Pac-12 extends prohibition of fan attendance at sports competitions | Pac-12 (pac-12.com)
Yes I wondered about the equivalency argument. It's probably why entire athletic staff haven't been furloughed by now.
 

dk_b

GOLD
thanks for the information. Seems like there are different rules depending on what county you are in .

Recently in San Francisco there was a mandatory 10 day quarantine for anyone entering the county. Clearly this would affect many teams coming to play USF.

Santa Clara is going is going to have some issue having games in their county, one of the most progressive and restrictive counties in the bay area.
I mean the NINERS can't play in their own stadium despite NFL covid protocol. Crazy.
Yes - Stanford hoops have played home games in Santa Cruz (both men and women are showing home games at stanford in the next 10+ days or so). The Warriors are playing at home in SF tonight and USF seems to be playing home basketball games (and the Dons men's hoops team is scheduled to play at Santa Clara on Jan 21).

It's going to be a challenge, especially if lodging is necessary b/c I think the overnight stays are where you run into the quarantine rules.

Re the equivalency question: I do think the WCC's schedule is more tenuous b/c they don't have football. But I also think that the fact that they are continuing a basketball season, while not an equity issue (since men's and women's teams offset on #s), they have a harder argument that other sports can't move forward (caveat: if a municipality or a state prohibits it, I'd expect that to trump anything the schools might want or be able to do)
 

Jose has returned

SILVER ELITE
So what's taking the the PAC-12 and the WCC so long to cancel the season. BIG West, IVY and few strays have canceled. I can't imagine there's a loss in revenue for volleyball, soccer, baseball, track, etc. All of those cost money to run and universities are losing tens of millions in lost housing revenue. Furlough all athletic staff not affiliated with revenue generated programs.

1) There's no way Newsome is going to allow non revenue sports to compete.
2) COVID is blowing up in LA with 0 ICU beds available and expect this to hit a peak in the next 7 days or so.
3) Vaccine distribution is going at a snail pace because health care workers are stretched thin.
vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
 
vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
A lot of states seem to be politicizing and overthinking the rollout.

They spent too much time thinking about the impact on racial/ethnic identity groups, and too little time thinking about when, where, and how to give millions of injections.

Interestingly, North Dakota seems to be doing the best. They have about 3/4 of their allotment already into arms. We are down at 1/4.
 

EOTL

PREMIER
vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
All these people who spent their entire adult lives complaining about government intrusion on private business, and who did nothing to help control spread that has overwhelmed our healthcare system, are now complaining that the governor disn’t forcing veterinarians to store and distribute vaccines.
 
vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
To my understanding it’s not so easy because they need to keep them in extremely cold refrigerators. Does CVS have the equipment to handle the Pfizer vaccine?
 
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