You can't "teach" speed, size and athleticism. You CAN "teach" the technical skills. If two players are equal in ability, I think most would take the bigger/stronger player over the smaller/less physical player.because thats the american mentality...speed and athleticism always trumps technical skill especially at the younger levels.
and that's why our men have never been a major player in the world. Do you know the dutch have two national teams as do many European countries? One is for kids who are have matured early and are super athletic and the second is for kids who haven't matured fully but exhibit great soccer IQ, technical and understand the game. The senior team is sprinkled with kids growing up in both systems.You can't "teach" speed, size and athleticism. You CAN "teach" the technical skills. If two players are equal in ability, I think most would take the bigger/stronger player over the smaller/less physical player.
You CAN "teach" the technical skills but you CAN'T teach a player to have great technical skills. You can only enhance what a player already naturally has. If a player is gifted with speed, size and athleticism its not a given that you can teach them the technical skills. Any coach or parent can spot a player with speed, size and athleticism its not difficult. Give me the the player with great touch along with a high IQ and fluidity. If this player is also fast and athletic.. great! If not they can still be an amazing player. Pirlo was never fast , but playing without hesitation effectively makes him so. Pirlo would have never made it if he was a kid living in the United States. I'll leave a quote from an amazing youth coach on why the US struggles to find these creative players.You can't "teach" speed, size and athleticism. You CAN "teach" the technical skills. If two players are equal in ability, I think most would take the bigger/stronger player over the smaller/less physical player.
Stanford women are a good example of where the USNT needs to move towards...I was at the game and Stanford dominated the game from start to finish (maybe about the last 15 minutes of the first half UNC was on fire). Posessed, diagonal runs, play out the back...UNC showed little signs of possession, but is more traditional kick and play.Most Americans I know want to win and so does this guy. 1st place or nothing where I come from. He freaking tossed his 2nd place metal. That is a GOAT. Big, Strong, Fast, Mentally Tough as nails, skilled and technical and has one of the strongest kicks in the world. Messi is faster with the ball and it sticks to his cleat like no one I know so he gets a pass on the physical size challenge with the best.
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If you want to be the best of da best then you better have it all and 99.5% of our kids DON'T have it all. I know a guy who goes on tour doing amazing things with a soccer ball. Kind of the like the Harlem Globetrotters. This soccer dude is a stud. I asked him why no pro and he said he wasn't quick enough or fast enough to play with da best. If you watched Stanford play, I saw girls who had it ALL just like Mike Trout. Just win baby!!!!
If Messi, Ronaldo or Pele or any of the GOATs lived here none of them would be a GOAT at soccer. This place sucks to learn the game the right way. I've shared enough why that is true. Firstly, to be a GOAT in soccer you probably need to be poor. Not too many poor folks playing soccer at the "Elite" level here in DA States. The poor can't afford to play club soccer. Hell, I can't afford club soccer to be honest. The parents want to win here and winning trumps development. Winning to most is getting kid in great school. For a few others, it's winning the actual game and beating out others for a starting spot while others get cut. Find the winners and then develop them to be the best of the best. Not all are winners. BTW, I watched my first college cup on tv and I saw things differently but no need to argue about NCs play. I say US Soccer hire the coach at Stanford and put him in charge of WNT and YNT. He seems like a good guy. Let him pick his players and the rest of the kids can focus on getting into college. We also need someone on the Men's side to have 100% autonomy to hit the reset button and blow up the DA and try something else. Men suck at soccer and this development stuff is not working were surely not getting better. DA has everything to do with it too 100%. The girls are next i'm afraid.Stanford women are a good example of where the USNT needs to move towards...I was at the game and Stanford dominated the game from start to finish (maybe about the last 15 minutes of the first half UNC was on fire). Posessed, diagonal runs, play out the back...UNC showed little signs of possession, but is more traditional kick and play.
If Messi would have grown up in the USA, he would have easily been passed up for bigger, faster, and stronger players. Winning NOW doesn't always equate to winning later..kinda willing the battle but not the war.
First of all....A couple things I consider in all this. First of all, The USWNT is pretty dominant. America is pretty top notch for women's global soccer, no?
Secondly, our best male athletes go towards higher paying, more popular American sports like football, basketball, baseball, and even hockey, no?
Thirdly, don't other countries play soccer, futsal, street soccer, etc. without coaches and such. Basically, they have a love of the game and play it on their own with or without organization. Soccer is not popular in America. This can change of course, but I don't fall for this aim for winning is killing the game here. We keep score for a reason and it's natural to want to win. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, development and training are the time to experiment and make mistakes.
Everyone talking about making youth soccer more affordable reminds me of those who want to make health care more affordable. Someone has to pay for it, so what becomes more affordable for some, makes it more costly for others. The more we try to fix things, the more we make things worse imo. I mean our whole economic growth with debt and monetary policy in The U.S. basically makes all of our mandatory, domestic costs of living even more expensive due to the growth of liquidity and inflation. It does not show up on the cpi index, because we get cheap products made globally now, but if its made here, it's damn expensive. Any attempt to make it cheaper through govt. funding makes it more funded and thus more expensive.
I would love to see a club like soccer organization with decent coaching that focuses on basic fundamentals for the youth, but where the kids can play and learn to love the game without tryouts, traveling all over, and lots of expense. AYSO is not an option imo. It has to have some focus on keeping it competitive and trying to win is important not everything, but a goal. Good development and fundamentals lead to winning. Just some of my thoughts.
I'll start with what I agree with. Soccer is expensive in America like everything else. We only spend about $2,400 a year or so for U-9 for our club, but this involves a lot of time and driving. You're referring to DA and ECNL club teams probably with your 7k or more. To be perfectly honest, I think the parent has to love watching them play as much as the kid wants to play for club to be desirable. It's a big commitment for a parent in time and money.First of all....
you make some good points. There are only a hand few of clubs in CA (don't know much about other states) that take a true interest in developing the whole play and will take them where they're at (good or poor) and do the best to make them better. of course everyone wants to win but at the youth level (U12-maybe younger-and under) it should be about, like you said, making it fun, falling in love with the game, and learning to be creative. The reason why other countries are more successful isn't because their number 1 sport, but there are less adults "training" them at younger ages when it's just picking up a ball and going to the par or playing on the street avoiding cars. Americans have this idea that training more is better instead of just training better. USA kids don't go out and play anymore and it's even more evident in affluent areas.
AS for your making it affordable comment...paying for one year of soccer at some clubs is more than a ENTIRE year of having affordable healthcare. What clubs are doing in club soccer (other sports too) is damn near highway robbery. 7-14k a year for soccer without guarantee that you'll get a scholarship or NT invite in the end? U12-U18 that's 42-84k for all those years. It's easy for some parents to write a check and those are the kids you see on the WNT, YNT's. Very rarely do you see kids from a low socio-economic place playing at that level due to not having access. Yes out teams are dominant (women's) but that's because they have had a 30-40 year advantage of having title IX on their side and people invested in their future. Many countries just started programs in the last 2 WC cycles. We will not continue to be as dominant as we are unless things change.
Interesting! But is that pro-training donated or who pays the trainers? Don't they also have academies in Europe and elsewhere where teenagers focus 100% on soccer. In America, our teenagers still focus a lot on academics as well and, again, college is academic plus soccer. Isn't it possible that American young adults and upper teenagers are mixing their soccer training with academics more so than the rest of the world? I'm asking, because I don't know. I think it's possible Americans are more focused on using soccer and other sports for that matter for gaining college education rather than going pro especially considering the odds of going pro in most sports.In Germany, kids are not just running around playing pick up jungle ball soccer. They are getting top notch, pro training from 5 years old on.
Iceland, and all of Europe, same approach. Only credentialed coaches work with 5 year olds.
Here in the US, it’s volunteer moms and dads that have never played soccer themselves who are teaching the 5 year olds. For baseball, football and basketball, it’s always someone who has actually played the game, so they get good fundamental early instruction.
Over generations, we’ll get there but it’s gonna be a long road to catch up, even with growing numbers playing.
Disclaimer: I never played the game; just learning vicariously through my kid playing!
Can not speak for Germany, but in France all players no matter what age are put into a data base and tracked. Their Federation keeps a tab on the youth development, movement, affiliation, etc.Yeah fair points about who pays the trainers...probably subsidized vis a vis higher taxes / better social safety net than we have here. But I don’t know that for sure!
Also correct and fair point about academies. They’re molding future pros. German universities have NO athletic programs, so once a young player embarks on the athletic pathway, academics go by the wayside. If someone doesn’t reach the Bundesliga pinnacle, they don’t have an education to fall back on...So that may be another significant difference between US and German soccer landscape.