2020 State Cup
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Tim Powell
SILVER ELITE
Do we know when they determine the groups? I think I read on there one month before, so somewhere after the first week of January? What’s the method again – random draw, correct?
Tim Powell
SILVER ELITE
And there it is. Let the analysis begin. Is there a group of death?
Venantsyo
GOLD
Yes I saw that, but like I have said the last 2 State Cups, you never know.Group C for sure: Legends, LAGSB and Real So cal
It will be interesting to see which teams advance.
That’s a good question?
Venantsyo
GOLD
Well, by looking at the last 2 year you could paraphrase Gary Lineker: State Cup is a tournament of games where 2009 girls chase the ball for 60 minutes and in the end the Eagles always win.
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
Wild cards are determined by points (3 points for win, 1 point for tie). Groups of three teams only play two games so only the winner advances.
State Cup is a joke. You have the CSL (Eagles) and SDDA (Albion) champions together in group A and the SCDSL West (LAGSB) and SCDSL South (Legends) champions in group C. And then you have groups D and J which basically have two flight 2 teams in each group. No, I'm not bitter.
3SoccerLadies
SILVER ELITE
Teams can protest and have in the past when ridiculous groupings have come out. Talk to your Club Director and have them call the lovely, and so fair, Cal South. MR will help
Chelsea dad g09
SILVER
Dont like it, then dont play in it. Would you rather your girls team be in one of the brackets with the flight 2 teams so it's an easier path? Gotta beat the top teams at some point, might as well do it right from the jump.
Tim Powell
SILVER ELITE
I get it, but it goes beyond winning the whole thing. Final 8 get fast tracked into CRL. Their players get more ODP scouting exposure. Understandable that teams who would have earned a higher seeding in a non-random-draw scenario feel like they have a reasonable path to that.
SoccerFan4Life
PREMIER
To be the best you have to beat the best. Even in the NBA and Champions league you often times see the best two teams getting knocked out before the semi finals.
Tim Powell
SILVER ELITE
Correct. I acknowledged that point. No one disagrees.
What I was trying to say is there are other elements of the state cup tournament beyond being crowned the champion.
Everyone knows it’s a random draw. You sign up what for what you sign up for. The scenario that unfolded happens every year to a degree. Yes – the road to being the state cup champion goes through all the best teams and in this case with a random draw sometimes you go through those best teams in group stage.
That doesn’t take away a bummer scenario for either Legends or Galaxy South Bay. They emerged at the top of probably the toughest brackets in the entire country (sorry MARs!). If one of them doesn’t advance, which I believe someone above said to be the case, and thus jeopardizing their ability to get into CRL or their best players getting maximum exposure for ODP, I would be bummed if I were them too.
Tim Powell
SILVER ELITE
Granted, for CRL they could just smoke everybody in the play in tournament. But it is still fair to say it’s a bummer to be put in that position after what they pulled off this fall.
What if the “tier 2 team” beats your kid’s team tho
board of education
BRONZE
Last year, I didn’t see anyone complain about slammers pa draw. That was an all time brutal path to the finals.
board of education
BRONZE
I think you put to much weight on the fall season and not overall body of work.
From experience, when there's only 3 teams in a bracket and they're not playing another bracket for position, the top two teams will move on. I think it happened in the 2009s last year too. The team that gets disadvantaged is the weakest team in the bracket because they don't have much room to gain points for wildcard positions. Link below to show bracket A only had 3 teams but advanced 2 out of 3:
Cal South Soccer - View Schedule
cysa.affinitysoccer.com