2007 DA

gogo1

BRONZE
So the Boys DA 07 season has officially ended. We had the Manchester City Cup in Oceanside, the TFA Cup (Copa America) in Westminister last weekend, and this week there will be the SuperCopa in Dallas. How was this season for Socal DA 07? Any interesting thoughts for LA league and SD league? Which teams are the big winners (or sadly the opposite)? What can we expect during the off season? Which teams are to be watched for 2020 season?
 

RedDevilDad

SILVER ELITE
In the IE, rumors are that Murrieta Surf has infighting over fees going up. Arsenal should improve as their DOC took over the 07s. Heard there are rumblings at Legends. Hector is back coaching 06s and rumored to bring some talent so figure that will draw attention to FCGS. Will it improve their 07 group?

(Just rumors before some Surf affiliate parent gets mad at me. Lol)

The usual round of “we’ll grace you with our talent if you pay our fees, gas and expenses” ODP kids circulating through various tryouts.
Probably a few shuffle between but I don’t predict major changes in players.
 

Kante

GOLD
In the IE, rumors are that Murrieta Surf has infighting over fees going up. Arsenal should improve as their DOC took over the 07s. Heard there are rumblings at Legends. Hector is back coaching 06s and rumored to bring some talent so figure that will draw attention to FCGS. Will it improve their 07 group?

(Just rumors before some Surf affiliate parent gets mad at me. Lol)

The usual round of “we’ll grace you with our talent if you pay our fees, gas and expenses” ODP kids circulating through various tryouts.
Probably a few shuffle between but I don’t predict major changes in players.
question on the legends. the 05 coach did a solid job improving that 05 team over time, but didn't see the same kind of improvement/performance from the other Legends teams. any thoughts on why?
 
My favorite part of the game.. The boys come together in prayer for the team, their opponents and for (of course) victory.
A couple of more practices and brake time. Summer is here. I am not sure about all of you, but I know that after 11 months my son is ready for a bit of a break. I know after a week or two he will want to get his foot back on the ball. Big changes. 11v 11, full field and a number 5 ball. We have been really blessed. More wins then losses, great parents and coaches who want to teach our kids the beautiful game. A couple of our kids had gotten a bit busted up and are in our prayers. My son ended up in the ER this season and spent a couple of weeks with the trainer but ended the season strong and healthy. Hope you all have a great break, a better summer and hope to see you all soon.
 

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focomoso

SILVER ELITE
My favorite part of the game.. The boys come together in prayer for the team, their opponents and for (of course) victory.
A couple of more practices and brake time. Summer is here. I am not sure about all of you, but I know that after 11 months my son is ready for a bit of a break. I know after a week or two he will want to get his foot back on the ball. Big changes. 11v 11, full field and a number 5 ball. We have been really blessed. More wins then losses, great parents and coaches who want to teach our kids the beautiful game. A couple of our kids had gotten a bit busted up and are in our prayers. My son ended up in the ER this season and spent a couple of weeks with the trainer but ended the season strong and healthy. Hope you all have a great break, a better summer and hope to see you all soon.
Do the kids really pray before games?
 
Yes.. this is a spontaneous moment of worship started by the boys. Lots of different backgrounds coming together praying in their own way. I have asked my son about what they pray for...A good game, good health for BOTH teams, and as I mentioned in my earlier post...a little help with the outcome.
The circle breaks up with a three count then GALAXY!
 

focomoso

SILVER ELITE
Yes.. this is a spontaneous moment of worship started by the boys. Lots of different backgrounds coming together praying in their own way. I have asked my son about what they pray for...A good game, good health for BOTH teams, and as I mentioned in my earlier post...a little help with the outcome.
The circle breaks up with a three count then GALAXY!
Do you think this might make non-religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to pray or stand out as not praying.
 

RedDevilDad

SILVER ELITE
Do you think this might make non-religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to pray or stand out as not praying.
Do you think not doing this might make religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to not pray or stand out as praying.

Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...

Can we just talk about soccer please
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Do you think not doing this might make religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to not pray or stand out as praying.

Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...


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Nonsense.
 

focomoso

SILVER ELITE
Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...
Your kid is free to "be me". The issue is when he (or his teammates) assume that others want to be the same. Someone saying a personal prayer is one thing, but as soon as the kids huddle up to pray, the assumption is that prayer is the norm. A non religious kid has to either stand out for not praying or pretend to pray. That's... unhealthy.

It sounds as if the kids are sensitive to there being different ways to pray: "Lots of different backgrounds coming together praying in their own way..." which is great. It means they get that there might be kids in the group who have different beliefs than they do. I don't think anyone would feel comfortable if they all said the Lord's Prayer, for example, or a specific prayer from a specific sect or other religion entirely. Why? Because that would be forcing one specific religious belief on kids who might not hold that belief. But the fact that they have group prayer at all is doing the same for non religious kids.

Just something to think about as you help your kid navigate the world.
 

watfly

GOLD
Do you think this might make non-religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to pray or stand out as not praying.
Do you think not doing this might make religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to not pray or stand out as praying.

Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...
This is a hot potato subject and a tangent from soccer but against my better judgement I will indulge. First off, I respect everyone's opinion on this matter.

I'm not religious in the slightest, but I don't have much of a problem with the "praying" as described by Tad. If it was being directed by the coach I would probably have a huge problem with it. However, if its spontaneous with the kids, it seems like its bonding moment for the kids and I like the positive message of being concerned for the health of both teams. On the other hand, if there is a higher power, I seriously doubt they care who wins a youth soccer game. To me, regardless of the name its done in, "prayer" doesn't have to be inherently religious but can just be personal expression of a positive message.

Oftentimes, we are quick to complain (including myself) about something with youth soccer, particularly as it comes to the concept of "fairness". Instead of complaining I think we should consider making the issue a teachable moment for our kids. If its my kid I would ask him if he was uncomfortable (likely not) and just let him know that belief in a supreme being is complicated and that he has many years to figure that out. Your teammates are just trying to send a positive message and by praying with them your not committing to a belief in God. If I was religious, I would probably tell my kid to be considerate of others and maybe find another way to express a positive message without bringing in the name of a deity.

Kids get excluded in all sorts of ways. Our team last year had kids (fueled by their parents) tell other kids that they suck and didn't belong on the team. Fortunately, my son wasn't involved on either side. Praying seems quite pleasant compared to some of the alternatives.
 

cabcon

BRONZE
question on the legends. the 05 coach did a solid job improving that 05 team over time, but didn't see the same kind of improvement/performance from the other Legends teams. any thoughts on why?
The 05 coaching style is different from the 07's. Lots of discrepancies between what the coaches want to do and what the DA is asking for. The 07 team relied heavily on pounding the ball forward and hardly played a possession game, building from the back. It was obvious that there was a huge separation from the "A" team and the "B" team and thus evident when they played. The "A" team would get coached (mostly during big games ie, Galaxy, TFA, LAFC) then for the "B" team, well that's when the coach would sit out and just watch. Noticeably different approaches to both teams. If a kid did well enough and got to play with the "A" team from the "B" team, there was absolutely no chemistry and the struggles were evident. That I believe has to do with the coaching during the week, constant separation and it showed. There was only a few times that the team was truly divided into two equal groups. Not much progress there.
 

RedDevilDad

SILVER ELITE
So, I've been setting up a bunch of 07 DA friendlies over the summer. LA teams vs SD teams. Starting July 27th. I'm curious to see how it pans out. Legends, Pats, Albion, Rebels, Arsenal, OC Surf and LA Premier have all either committed or in progress of working on dates.
 

Kante

GOLD
here's end of season u12 national ranking. it's based on Points per Game, Goal Differential per Game, Goals Scored per Game and Goals Allowed per Game, and only includes USSDA matches (i.e. no tournament results). Also, the ranking does not account for the relative strength of the different geos i.e. there could be a highly ranked team that played in a relatively weak geo (e.g., CO Rapids).

As an fyi, there are 152 teams listed below but there are 153 u12 clubs listed on the USSDA website. Consolidated the two crossfire premier squad (I and II) results into one team below for ranking purposes while the USSDA site, for some reason, calls them out as separate team.

SoCal teams are highlighted in yellow. And btw, if you get a minute, would appreciate your feedback to this survey here about posts for next season: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/...r-the-new-season-please-pick-the-top-3.17573/


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here's end of season u12 national ranking. it's based on Points per Game, Goal Differential per Game, Goals Scored per Game and Goals Allowed per Game, and only includes USSDA matches (i.e. no tournament results). Also, the ranking does not account for the relative strength of the different geos i.e. there could be a highly ranked team that played in a relatively weak geo (e.g., CO Rapids).

As an fyi, there are 152 teams listed below but there are 153 u12 clubs listed on the USSDA website. Consolidated the two crossfire premier squad (I and II) results into one team below for ranking purposes while the USSDA site, for some reason, calls them out as separate team.

SoCal teams are highlighted in yellow. And btw, if you get a minute, would appreciate your feedback to this survey here about posts for next season: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/...r-the-new-season-please-pick-the-top-3.17573/


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Tremendous job. Thanks for doing that.
 
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